Seeking Recommendations for Fibre Provider

[it_geek]

Hi all,

Am renting a unit that's closer to town and I have sought permission from the landlord to install a 2nd fibre line on premise.

I am looking for a provider that provides me with the most no-frills approach - terminating only at the ONT; I will configure the rest of the network according to my own schema. It will be mostly cabled and I have the necessary equipment on hand for this already, reusing some older hardware in my spare stock.

Am also looking for unmanaged and unthrottled connections even during peak hours.

I saw another thread in this forum comparing the various broadband providers... seems like only myRepublic 200mbps fits what I am looking for...? My family home is using the legacy 1 Gbps Unlimited Fibre Broadband which had these specifications but sadly it is no longer offered.

Also I understand that myRepublic uses CGNAT. I am a little concerned with the CGNAT implementation, but can this be issue be workaround by getting the one time static IP add on?

Please advise if other providers are a better pick or if my choice of myRepublic is good enough, and anything else I should be aware of (especially latency to international sites, including japan, china, europe and U.S.)

Looking forward to members' replies here, thanks!

 

[it_geek]

bo lang reply means is ok choice

 

[Trans-Am]

fyi , MR had been bought over by SH.
heard that most of the route is through SH.

you can read more at MR thread


Sent from A universe Where pink PWNED everything

 

[it_geek]

fyi , MR had been bought over by SH.
heard that most of the route is through SH.

you can read more at MR thread


Sent from A universe Where pink PWNED everything

ye i saw the recent posts on this. Am not sure if StarHub is at play trying to deprioritse MR users in favour of their own network (like the way SingTel does to Whizcomms)

also not sure if StarHub's takeover means traffic shaping policies/throttling on MR network as well. Because it seems the routing by Starhub is now rather questionable, so am only considering M1 as the next best

Of course, if someone wants to sell me their legacy Singtel Unlimited Fibre i would be glad to take it an pay the transfer fee.

The ONT is a make or break decision thats why if MR is not as good I am really only left with M1. Though I have yet to fully investigate its routing to China and Japan

 

[lobukong]

Regarding route to Japan, recently I had a comparison between MR and M1 since I have both plan active and recently I started playing genshin impact on Asia server.
I noticed M1 ping is usually 70ms+ but will change to 250ms - 350ms from 9pm to 12 every night. While MR just constantly stays at 70ms+.
I contacted M1 customer support through live chat, very responsive and asked me to provide traceroute. Then they feedback to backend who helped me changed routing. They also called me multiple times to update progress.
Currently if I'm using M1 the ping is 65-70ms during the day and 70-100ms at 9pm-12. Not the best but I think it's acceptable. Probably M1 have too many user.

 

[loganrunning]

bo lang reply means is ok choice

no, it means too many boundary conditions, the specific requirements are too tight, the combination will rule out practically every isp.
no throttling and management (implied good performance), ONT, good routing, implied good uptime and stability. for consumer isp, difficult to meet all requirements.

btw, traffic light ISPs all use management and throttling. it's just the degree of severity.


since you have identified MR, check if they still have contract-free or short term contract plans (used to have 3 or 6 month plans) to try out. if it meets your needs, then convert to longer term contract, or roll the short term contract to suit your rental duration

 

[it_geek]

no, it means too many boundary conditions, the specific requirements are too tight, the combination will rule out practically every isp.
no throttling and management (implied good performance), ONT, good routing, implied good uptime and stability. for consumer isp, difficult to meet all requirements.

btw, traffic light ISPs all use management and throttling. it's just the degree of severity.


since you have identified MR, check if they still have contract-free or short term contract plans (used to have 3 or 6 month plans) to try out. if it meets your needs, then convert to longer term contract, or roll the short term contract to suit your rental duration

fair comment. my main make or break is really the ONT, throttling and stability. routing i guess i will find a way to work around it.

 

[xiaofan]

fair comment. my main make or break is really the ONT, throttling and stability. routing i guess i will find a way to work around it.

In that case probably MR, M1 and Starhub can be considered.

In terms of less throttling, probably MR> M1> Starhub.

In terms of stability, probably Starhub > M1 > MR. But all three should be acceptable.

So in the end I can understand why you intend to go with MR.

Take note that there are reported issue of MR routing to China.

 

[lobukong]

fair comment. my main make or break is really the ONT, throttling and stability. routing i guess i will find a way to work around it.

Could you help share how to work around routing problems? Thank you

 

[it_geek]

Could you help share how to work around routing problems? Thank you

when I find I share here

I have yet to see myRepublic's performance so I will get there when I get there.

I was thinking of creating a VPN from my existing Singtel Unlimited Fibre network (server) and peer it with the MR connection (client), gonna test that first

 

[xiaofan]

when I find I share here

I have yet to see myRepublic's performance so I will get there when I get there.

I was thinking of creating a VPN from my existing Singtel Unlimited Fibre network (server) and peer it with the MR connection (client), gonna test that first

That may well work if your existing Singtel Unlimited Fibre network has good latecncy to the destinations. If using Wireguard (if your home router supports it), the speed and latency will be decent.

 

[it_geek]

That may well work if your existing Singtel Unlimited Fibre network has good latecncy to the destinations. If using Wireguard (if your home router supports it), the speed and latency will be decent.

The network's latency is only OK, and I am not complaining. Probably would be better than the current plans being rolled out by SingTel.

I am using stock firmware for now since my router had an issue that took me really long to fix whilst running on OpenWRT. Might want to try again since I now have the spare in stock

 

[xiaofan]

The network's latency is only OK, and I am not complaining. Probably would be better than the current plans being rolled out by SingTel.

I am using stock firmware for now since my router had an issue that took me really long to fix whilst running on OpenWRT. Might want to try again since I now have the spare in stock

If you want to use Wireguard, I will suggest not to use old routers like Linksys EA7500 v2 or EA8100 running OpenWRT, the performance will not be good.

But you do not need to run the VPN server on the router, rather you can still run them on the computer or docker container, say on a mini PC or Raspberry Pi 4 running Linux.

 

[it_geek]

If you want to use Wireguard, I will suggest not to use old routers like Linksys EA7500 v2 or EA8100 running OpenWRT, the performance will not be good.

But you do not need to run the VPN server on the router, rather you can still run them on the computer or docker container, say on a mini PC or Raspberry Pi 4 running Linux.

The router I am using is the R8000 Netgear Nighthawk X6

 

[xiaofan]

The router I am using is the R8000 Netgear Nighthawk X6

You can try it but I tend to think the CPU (BCM4709) is on the weak side.

You may need the RT-AC86U grade CPU at the minimum (BCM4906 dual core ARM Cortex A53).

 

[it_geek]

You can try it but I tend to think the CPU (BCM4709) is on the weak side.

You may need the RT-AC86U grade CPU at the minimum (BCM4906 dual core ARM Cortex A53).

not just the weakness of the cpu but also compat issues with broadcom chip in general

 

[hairymonster]

I highly recommend cloudflare zero trust. Excellent peering.

 

[it_geek]

I highly recommend cloudflare zero trust. Excellent peering.

not sure if it will affect my peering to china but will give it a try

 

[hairymonster]

not sure if it will affect my peering to china but will give it a try

You need a licensed cdn if you want good peering to china.

Check this out.

https://www.appinchina.co/do-you-really-need-a-cdn-in-china

 

[it_geek]

You need a licensed cdn if you want good peering to china.

Check this out.

https://www.appinchina.co/do-you-really-need-a-cdn-in-china

The ROI is low simply because I don't really host content intendedly specific for China users. Plus its not set and forget... my mental bandwidth is low these days with work, but nonetheless a good article... i might ask my friend working at the Alibaba group to see if she can pull some strings...