SIM Programme comparison

[Mistrol]

Hi All,

Need some advice on programmes from SIM GE. Currently, I'm choosing between 3 different programmes, Bachelor of Science (Honours) in International Relations from UOL, Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Business and Management also from UOL or Bachelor of Business (Marketing) from RMIT.

Anyone knows which would be a better programme to pursue? Reason why I'm considering Marketing from RMIT is because there isn't a UOL programme for Marketing and the commencement date is after I ORD.

My Mathematics isn't very strong which is why I'm considering International Relations, I imagine it to be an essay based kind of programme? So just want to know, is it tough to score for this kinda exams?

I welcome all feedback and advice! Hope to hear from you all soon!

Mistrol

 

[Havok_ex]

Im not sure what jobs would be available for graduates from International Relations. I looked at the modules and it looks like a political science major to me. Political science grads from NUS/SMU usually look towards ministries and stat boards for jobs. The cream of the crop of course would usually get MFA positions. But being a DL grad, you would be hard pressed to find a job in the ministry. Hence you would have to turn to private sectors, whereby demand might not be too good.

 

[Mistrol]

Im not sure what jobs would be available for graduates from International Relations. I looked at the modules and it looks like a political science major to me. Political science grads from NUS/SMU usually look towards ministries and stat boards for jobs. The cream of the crop of course would usually get MFA positions. But being a DL grad, you would be hard pressed to find a job in the ministry. Hence you would have to turn to private sectors, whereby demand might not be too good.

Then would International Relations degree allow me to work in normal business companies but maybe one that handles international affairs?

 

[sunny_lim]

Curious question, why only consider SIM GE ?

 

[wav35_]

Rmit marketing is very project-intensive, expect to be swarmed with lots of projs every sem. Uol degrees are completely exam-based, one exam determines everything. If you hv a poly diploma and your gpa is not too bad, why dun consider uni of birmingham, manchester or southampton? They set criteria of gpa 3.0 but i think bare minimum is ard 2.8, these unis are much more reputable.

 

[Havok_ex]

Then would International Relations degree allow me to work in normal business companies but maybe one that handles international affairs?

International affairs are usually handled by states. Because international affairs usually refer to relations between states. Normal businesses don't have anything to do with these relations. What you are thinking about is probably international business. Then again, a company would prefer a biz grad to do that job instead. The only private companies I can see that actually have a slight relation to foreign affairs is probably news companies. But even then, they might prefer journalism grads instead.

But you would probably be better off asking someone that graduated from this course. See what they are working as now.

 

[lolita_5]

Hi All,

Need some advice on programmes from SIM GE. Currently, I'm choosing between 3 different programmes, Bachelor of Science (Honours) in International Relations from UOL, Bachelor of Science (Honours) in Business and Management also from UOL or Bachelor of Business (Marketing) from RMIT.

Anyone knows which would be a better programme to pursue? Reason why I'm considering Marketing from RMIT is because there isn't a UOL programme for Marketing and the commencement date is after I ORD.

My Mathematics isn't very strong which is why I'm considering International Relations, I imagine it to be an essay based kind of programme? So just want to know, is it tough to score for this kinda exams?

I welcome all feedback and advice! Hope to hear from you all soon!

Mistrol

Hi Mistrol, here's my opinion. I'm currently in sim uol and this is what I think.

Out of the three, uol business and management would be my first choice. I would say it would also be the first choice for anybody that asked the same question. Let's first take a look at the other two courses which you mentioned, uol international relations and rmit marketing.

This international relations course is a brand new one at sim and you will be the pioneer batch if you enrolled into it this year. The thing is, like you, I'm also unclear what are the career prospects this qualification can provide. Most probably like what Havok EX mentioned, you will be venturing into government jobs. Maybe working in mindef's headquarters researching and analyzing the developments of different countries, deployed to other parts of the world as a foreign affairs representative etc. Better still, you can go on to join united nations, asean and many other intergovernmental organizations

However, do note that ministries and stat boards are still in favour of local uni grads. That being said, it is not zero probability that a private uni grad will not be employed but if you were to have a lower starting pay or slower career progression compared to your local uni colleagues, just LLST. Private uni grads would be better off in the private sector. The introduction of this course by sim seems a bit bewildering to me

As for rmit marketing. No offence but I think there isn't a need to pursue uni studies in the field of marketing. Marketing is something one can learn outside of the classroom, on the job or through experience. imho, you don't really need a marketing degree to launch your career in this field. However, if you are still keen in pursuing a marketing degree, there are still plenty of choices for you, whether it is within sim or at other schools. Don't limit yourself to rmit just because more people heard of it before.

Uol may not have a marketing course but it does have a subject called principles or marketing. I have not taken it before but many have said that it is intellectually challenging due to its heavy content. If you pick the uol business and management course, you have the option of choosing principles of marketing as one of your electives. The core modules in business and management are relatively little, giving you more freedom in picking the subjects which interest you. At the end of the day, you get a more all-rounded education (some may disagree that versatility is meaningless).

Last but not least, if i'm not wrong, uol fees costs less than rmit. Hope I helped

 

[mickeycena]

Anyone can give advice on rmit econs and finance advanced 2? Do I still need to study the core modules?

 

[wav35_]

Anyone can give advice on rmit econs and finance advanced 2? Do I still need to study the core modules?

advanced 2 must be entry by local poly biz-related diplomas. if im not wrong, need to study at least 4 core and the 12 major modules. any other exemptions are at the discretion of rmit.

sim-rmit brochure 2014:
http://www.simge.edu.sg/pub/groups/...s/sim_brochure/c2lt/mday/~edisp/sim002824.pdf

 

[mickeycena]

advanced 2 must be entry by local poly biz-related diplomas. if im not wrong, need to study at least 4 core and the 12 major modules. any other exemptions are at the discretion of rmit.

sim-rmit brochure 2014:
http://www.simge.edu.sg/pub/groups/...s/sim_brochure/c2lt/mday/~edisp/sim002824.pdf

And also from sim diploma too, which I have that. But it says can have 12 modules which takes 1.5 years. But since got four core modules, these makes up 16 modules and takes 2 years. I'm still confused about the 1.5-2 tears thing oh gosh.

 

[wav35_]

And also from sim diploma too, which I have that. But it says can have 12 modules which takes 1.5 years. But since got four core modules, these makes up 16 modules and takes 2 years. I'm still confused about the 1.5-2 tears thing oh gosh.

if u look at the brochure, dms is grouped under group A which has 12 exemptions, so maybe u might be exempted from all core modules. best to check with SIM GE directly!

 

[mickeycena]

if u look at the brochure, dms is grouped under group A which has 12 exemptions, so maybe u might be exempted from all core modules. best to check with SIM GE directly!

Ok I will thanks! Anyway u registering too?

 

[chiwawa23]

Hi Mistrol, here's my opinion. I'm currently in sim uol and this is what I think.

Out of the three, uol business and management would be my first choice. I would say it would also be the first choice for anybody that asked the same question. Let's first take a look at the other two courses which you mentioned, uol international relations and rmit marketing.

This international relations course is a brand new one at sim and you will be the pioneer batch if you enrolled into it this year. The thing is, like you, I'm also unclear what are the career prospects this qualification can provide. Most probably like what Havok EX mentioned, you will be venturing into government jobs. Maybe working in mindef's headquarters researching and analyzing the developments of different countries, deployed to other parts of the world as a foreign affairs representative etc. Better still, you can go on to join united nations, asean and many other intergovernmental organizations

However, do note that ministries and stat boards are still in favour of local uni grads. That being said, it is not zero probability that a private uni grad will not be employed but if you were to have a lower starting pay or slower career progression compared to your local uni colleagues, just LLST. Private uni grads would be better off in the private sector. The introduction of this course by sim seems a bit bewildering to me

As for rmit marketing. No offence but I think there isn't a need to pursue uni studies in the field of marketing. Marketing is something one can learn outside of the classroom, on the job or through experience. imho, you don't really need a marketing degree to launch your career in this field. However, if you are still keen in pursuing a marketing degree, there are still plenty of choices for you, whether it is within sim or at other schools. Don't limit yourself to rmit just because more people heard of it before.

Uol may not have a marketing course but it does have a subject called principles or marketing. I have not taken it before but many have said that it is intellectually challenging due to its heavy content. If you pick the uol business and management course, you have the option of choosing principles of marketing as one of your electives. The core modules in business and management are relatively little, giving you more freedom in picking the subjects which interest you. At the end of the day, you get a more all-rounded education (some may disagree that versatility is meaningless).

Last but not least, if i'm not wrong, uol fees costs less than rmit. Hope I helped

Just to add a bit of knowledge here. I am also a current student from SIM-UOL and is now taking the module "Principles of Marketing". It is really an indeed challenging subject and it's a compulsory module for me because I am in the BSc Bachelor In Business, the old deg as now the new deg that UOL has rolled out is the BSc Business and Management deg, this is a new degree rolled out this year that combined the 2 separate degs "BSc in Business" and "Bsc in Management". Now these 2 old degs are no longer available to those in the new batch who are applying to the UOL programme. This new deg does give u the flexibility of choosing subjects or modules that u wish to study and less core modules. UOL is also recognised internationally and well-known and reputable. So it would be a wise choice to go to UOL. But ultimately it's up to u. The international relations deg is not easy as u will need to write lots of essays and be well-informed on current news knowledge as UOL requires us to apply what we have learnt into the real world and to have critical thinking and analytical skills. Just my 2 cents worth. Hope this helps.

 

[Mistrol]

Hi All,

Thanks for the replies, after reading all of your advice, I'm leaning more towards business and management now however, like I mentioned earlier, my Mathematics isn't very strong. Although I studied Engineering Mathematics in Poly, which is similar to Additional Maths, I worry that I won't be able to do well as Maths has never been on my good side.

There's the phrase, jack of all trade but master of none, which is why I'm not entirely sure on BSc in Business and Management. However, is it wise to think that since I'll be learning everything, it'll be okay as I can learn even more when I start working in a specialize field after I graduate?

Mistrol

 

[ftft58]

i personally dun favour UOL method of delivering biz degrees by just a single exam. studying biz shld be a mixture of projs, presentations, assignments, exams etc. RMIT has that but its not direct-honours and maybe slightly less 'reputable' than UOL? Why dun consider UniSIM?

 

[wav35_]

Ok I will thanks! Anyway u registering too?

nope im already a graduate.

 

[Mistrol]

i personally dun favour UOL method of delivering biz degrees by just a single exam. studying biz shld be a mixture of projs, presentations, assignments, exams etc. RMIT has that but its not direct-honours and maybe slightly less 'reputable' than UOL? Why dun consider UniSIM?

Is UniSIM a better choice? I don't know anything about UniSIM lol, gonna need someone to enlighten me on this matter.