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What sound card do you own. Do you think sound card are necessary and
sound better than sound chip ? It seem that peoples are willing to spend thousand of dollars on a graphics card but end up using sound chip.
What do you think ?
 

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Honestly not necessary but get an amplifier to support higher impedence headphones.

Personally using topping e30+l30 with akg712pro
 

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If you're looking to build a new PC, or modify one of the best home computers, then you will eventually come to consider the sound capabilities of your machine. The big question here becomes: sound card vs onboard audio. Do you need a dedicated card for sound, or are you fine to just run audio through your computer's motherboard? Sound cards aren't a big deal like they were in the 90s and early 00s PC scene, and they're now viewed as non-essential kit, unless you're using your computer primarily for audio manipulation or serious gaming.

The reality is that unless you are an extreme gamer, or are looking to get into the world of hardcore audio editing, sound cards are not going to be that much of an improvement over the audio from your motherboard. However, there are certain pros and cons to consider before you dismiss sound cards completely. Here they are.

What different types of PC audio are there?
Audio comes in two different formats: analog and digital. Computers are what we call digital systems, which means that they can only produce or manipulate sound in a digital format. The problem is that, in the real world, all audio is found or created in an analog format. All speakers produce analog signals; digital speakers, the ones we use for computers or home theater systems, are analog speakers that are able to convert the digital signal to the analog format. A digital-to-analog converter (DAC) is used for this process and is incorporated into many of the speakers we see from day to day. All motherboards have a chip called a codec (coder/decoder) that is able to covert digital signals to analog signals and vice-versa. You can find external DAC devices in some of the best headphones, especially if you look at specialist gaming versions.


Onboard audio - pros and cons
All motherboards on the market come with embedded sound cards, or onboard audio. The problem is that since motherboards need to be small enough to fit into your tower, they have limited space for the sound card. As such, onboard audio is not able to produce the same quality of audio as a dedicated sound card. Many of the features needed to produce clear, crisp sound simply can't be added to onboard sound cards.

One major advantage of using onboard audio is obviously the cost. Not only do you save money on the sound card, but you also save a lot of money on new speakers or an expensive headset. You will still be able to listen to the same music or play the same games as someone with a dedicated sound card, but you won't quite have the same level of sound quality.

If you own one of the best laptops, you won't have the option to add a sound card, so if you're looking to improve audio, we recommend a headset with an external DAC, like the Steelseries Arctis Pro.

Dedicated sound cards - pros and cons
Dedicated sound cards have a number of improved or added features, which in turn produce better sound quality all around. Features like higher signal-to-noise ratios, lower harmonic distortion, 24-bit sample rates, 192-kHz resolutions and of course additional APIs. These additional features are what truly make a dedicated sound card worth the time and money it costs to install them and set them up to work properly. One thing to keep in mind is that you will need a good set of speakers or a nice headset to truly hear the difference. The main downside? Most will never really need that extra audio fidelity.



Sound cards are not for everyone. Not only do you need to buy the sound card itself, but you also need additional equipment to get the most out of your new piece of hardware. However, there are a variety of price ranges and types of sound cards, which makes it easy to start simple and upgrade once you have a better understanding of how sound cards work. If you do decide to choose a sound card, the one you should consider is the Sound Blaster Z, which is an absolute monster available for a reasonable price.
 
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This must be the kind of future that Brave New World was trying to warn us about
 

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Depend on your speaker, some PC speaker example Logitech G560
and Creative Katana uses USB connection so sound card isn't necessary.
 

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Always got a dedicated SB card for my PC until like 5 years ago, just used onboard already. Previously believed using a PCI card would take less toil on the motherboard's bandwidth. Now I don't feel much of a difference.

Speakers do matter however, still on a Altec Lansing 2.1 purchased through 1995/6. Now gaming with headphones as I can hear more details via headphones instead of the original speakers.

Sound cards are making a comeback, but don't really see any need for it.
 

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Always got a dedicated SB card for my PC until like 5 years ago, just used onboard already. Previously believed using a PCI card would take less toil on the motherboard's bandwidth. Now I don't feel much of a difference.

Speakers do matter however, still on a Altec Lansing 2.1 purchased through 1995/6. Now gaming with headphones as I can hear more details via headphones instead of the original speakers.

Sound cards are making a comeback, but don't really see any need for it.

it does makes a noticeable difference but will be dependent on the quality of the source, speaker and external amp.
 
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General rule of thumb is the price of DAC, Amp, and Speaker/headphone should be the same.

Why is sound card still relevant despite obviously being not portable? Because you need to go a lot more expensive to get the same quality as a standalone DAC + headphone amp. You will need like probably close to at least $500 to get a DAC + amp that compares favourably to say a Nu Audio or Xonar Essence STX
 

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So a $500 DAC + a $500 amp + a $500 speaker?

Erm............
 

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So a $500 DAC + a $500 amp + a $500 speaker?

Erm............

Yes ideally. But in reality really is you can get a lot of these gears at much cheaper price than their RRPs as long you don’t mind not getting the latest, which is pointless anyway. Walk into hifi shops in Adelphi or Milennia and you can ask for clearance DAC and Amps for 50% off or cheaper. Passive speakers often go really cheap. Sound cards like Nu Audio always go on sale, now at local Amazon consistently below $150. So really that $1500 cost can be effectively below $500 if you are resourceful enough. My desktop audio gear cost less than $500 in total btw.
 

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Anything Above $2 Buys More Features, Not Better Quality
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/high-end-pc-audio,3733-19.html

Using world-class headphones, a $2 Realtek integrated audio codec could not be reliably distinguished from the $2000 Benchmark DAC2 HGC in a four-device round-up. Again, all four devices sounded great.

Sweeping statements are sweeping

An IEM with unflat load impedance can easily tell the difference between a soundcard like Xonar DX vs Benchmark DAC2 HGC
 

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Sweeping statements are sweeping

An IEM with unflat load impedance can easily tell the difference between a soundcard like Xonar DX vs Benchmark DAC2 HGC

Yeah. I read in Reddit that there are actually quite a few people who really can’t tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps, so I’m not surprised actually that likewise there are people who can’t tell the difference in audio quality.

Depend also I guess on what genre of music you are listening. If you listen to a complex classical symphony or choral stuff the difference in gear becomes much more obvious.
 

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Yeah. I read in Reddit that there are actually quite a few people who really can’t tell the difference between 30fps and 60fps, so I’m not surprised actually that likewise there are people who can’t tell the difference in audio quality.

Depend also I guess on what genre of music you are listening. If you listen to a complex classical symphony or choral stuff the difference in gear becomes much more obvious.

However most people can't tell the difference between 30fps and 30fps, yet quite a few can.
 

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Beside good source and quality of hardwares,
good electricity and hearing are also important,
 
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