SSD vs HDD

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For longevity and secure which is better for data storage/backup ?
Not comparing data transfer speed, just want to find out which is more reliable.
 

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hdd better for backup. if it spoils you can recover data. if you accidentally reformat, install windows, delete partition, clean the drive, data can be recovered.

for ssd once the partition is gone the ssd will start doing garbage collection making data unreadable.
 

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HDD cheaper vs SSD.

SSD was meant for speed, for processing use, not for storing long term data. Just swapped my old NAS HDDs out for new ones after 7 years. I don't do much copying/reading, but still... don't want to risk it. $220 for 2x2TB. Next refresh I need to change NAS liao my NAS cannot support >3TB disks.
 

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Actually best way to backup is off-site. Assuming you don't mind your data being in cloud, something like backblaze works much better as it's safer. Once it's uploaded on cloud, it is never really gone.

HDD backup, the main advantage is u have complete control over your data. Cost-wise can be the same assuming nas + 2 hdd for raid 1 + electric bills. Cloud backup might even be cheaper on the long run considering hdd and nas maintenance(replacement if spoil etc)

Restoration is faster for local too I guess.

Finally, cloud backup means you can use ssd if u wish since there really isn't much difference.
 
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Think I am the only one who mainly use HDD for both OS
and data. :s13:
SSD is fast helps to boot up but if it fails all data gone.
HDD boot up is slow on Windows 10 while SSD boots up fast.

I can go make coffee while PC is loading so I am fine with HDD.
 

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https://www.therevisionist.org/reviews/ssd-vs-hdd-one-reliable/3
Although some people worry that SSDs have a limited number of reads and writes, in reality we already know that a Solid State Drive’s read/write limit lasts an extremely long time under normal use.

Recalculating the limit until data becomes compromised at 300TB, an SSD like the Samsung 840 Series is theoretically reliable up to 21.4 years. Compare that to the fact that an HD drive is 50% likely to fail after 6 years.
 

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Think I am the only one who mainly use HDD for both OS
and data. :s13:
SSD is fast helps to boot up but if it fails all data gone.
HDD boot up is slow on Windows 10 while SSD boots up fast.

I can go make coffee while PC is loading so I am fine with HDD.
Well, some people like to live in 2020, there are always exceptional people that likes to live in 2000 still. No right, no wrong.
 

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https://www.therevisionist.org/reviews/ssd-vs-hdd-one-reliable/3
Although some people worry that SSDs have a limited number of reads and writes, in reality we already know that a Solid State Drive’s read/write limit lasts an extremely long time under normal use.

Recalculating the limit until data becomes compromised at 300TB, an SSD like the Samsung 840 Series is theoretically reliable up to 21.4 years. Compare that to the fact that an HD drive is 50% likely to fail after 6 years.
HDDs are mechanical, they have motors and arms with a surface platter, undoubtedly they won't last as long as flash drives. They need time to spin up also, which makes them undesirable for fast editing and loading uses but extremely good for storage because of their cost efficiency.
 

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HDDs are mechanical, they have motors and arms with a surface platter, undoubtedly they won't last as long as flash drives. They need time to spin up also, which makes them undesirable for fast editing and loading uses but extremely good for storage because of their cost efficiency.

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https://www.therevisionist.org/reviews/ssd-vs-hdd-one-reliable/3
Although some people worry that SSDs have a limited number of reads and writes, in reality we already know that a Solid State Drive’s read/write limit lasts an extremely long time under normal use.

Recalculating the limit until data becomes compromised at 300TB, an SSD like the Samsung 840 Series is theoretically reliable up to 21.4 years. Compare that to the fact that an HD drive is 50% likely to fail after 6 years.

Backblaze has RMA data for HDD which is nice.

Does somebody have RMA data for SSD? ;)
 

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Some games loading from ssd vs hdd just 20s-30s faster. Not totally day & night. But if 20s a lot to you. To me, i can wait.
I install cod cold war in 1Tb 2.5 hitachi hdd. Loading time to my surprise quite fast. Maybe it the game.
So far only one game wrath: Asgard vr i transfer to ssd becos loading almost 1 mins -2 mins diff in hdd

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Some games loading from ssd vs hdd just 20s-30s faster. Not totally day & night. But if 20s a lot to you. To me, i can wait.
I install cod cold war in 1Tb 2.5 hitachi hdd. Loading time to my surprise quite fast. Maybe it the game.
So far only one game wrath: Asgard vr i transfer to ssd becos loading almost 1 mins -2 mins diff in hdd

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True depend on the game, FPS or third person shooter HDD/SSD
loading times won't be noticeable.
However open world like Fallout 4, Assassin's creed odyssey etc.
SSD load faster than HDD.

Generally for gaming, game files best to be on HDD than SSD.
 

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I will still use HDD for storage. Torrenting on SSD?
 

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I have some steam games saved & load from external hdd, like batman arkham knight, Senua.
Those big games files like 80-90 Gb all in Hdd. Cant afford expensive 1Tb-2Tb ssd space just because i cannot wait 30-60s loading time

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Have a few systems at home including a desktop, NUC and a notebook with SSD-only storage.

The only HDDs I have are in a 4-bay NAS on RAID 5.

Really don't see any reason to go back to having HDD in PCs, at least for my case.
 

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once you go ssd, you will never go back to hdd.

the rule of thumb is use ssd for performance and hdd for storage. If you want the best of both world, deploy ssd for OS and data and do frequent backups to hdd or cloud.
 

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Have a few systems at home including a desktop, NUC and a notebook with SSD-only storage.

The only HDDs I have are in a 4-bay NAS on RAID 5.

Really don't see any reason to go back to having HDD in PCs, at least for my case.

I am also going this route, which is to run minimal OS and program data on SSDs on the host PC and offload data and storage to external storage devices to NAS and flash drives then do frequent backups.
 

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SSD for OS/programs/games.
HDD for storage. Once the price for 2TB SDD drop (drop by a lot) then i will consider to move over to SSD for storage.
 

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For longevity and secure which is better for data storage/backup ?
Not comparing data transfer speed, just want to find out which is more reliable.

For backup purpose, HDD is better. Much cheaper $ per GB.

However, you should always have a redundant drive in your array when you using NAS or some soft of backup, never just use 1 drive. Eg, 2 x 1TB in RAID 1. THis way, even if one of your 1TB drive fails, you are fine. Just replace it and rebuild array. YOu can also use RAID 5 but need 3 drives min.
 
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