SSD vs HDD

[Clearnfc]

hdd better for backup. if it spoils you can recover data. if you accidentally reformat, install windows, delete partition, clean the drive, data can be recovered.

for ssd once the partition is gone the ssd will start doing garbage collection making data unreadable.

Yes, its much easier to recover data from mechanical HDD compared to SSD.

 

[EJB]

For backup purpose, HDD is better. Much cheaper $ per GB.

However, you should always have a redundant drive in your array when you using NAS or some soft of backup, never just use 1 drive. Eg, 2 x 1TB in RAID 1. THis way, even if one of your 1TB drive fails, you are fine. Just replace it and rebuild array. YOu can also use RAID 5 but need 3 drives min.

This also largely depends if it's the RAID controller that fails or the HDD. The worry is on getting the same RAID controller to rebuild the RAID.

 

[-Synchronicity-]

Cloud is good but cost $$$. Because you need to pay monthly subscription.

....NAS + 2 or more HDD + electricity is free then?

There's a reason why I compared backup off site vs HDD local backup.

Spoiler alert: their price is pretty much similar over a period of say 2-3 years.

 

[Clearnfc]

....NAS + 2 or more HDD + electricity is free then?

There's a reason why I compared backup off site vs HDD local backup.

Spoiler alert: their price is pretty much similar over a period of say 2-3 years.

It depends on how much space you need. IF you need 20-30TB, its very expensive. If just 1-2TB, its very cheap.

30TB cost around $400 a month. Over 3yrs period, thats over 14K. Does a 30TB NAS cost you anywhere near 10K?

 

[watzup_ken]

Cloud is good but cost $$$. Because you need to pay monthly subscription.

While this is true, I feel it is less of a hassle for you to manage the data on your own. I used to run a NAS for the purpose of backing things up and be able to access them on the go. But I realize that the software tend to be wonky and when I am outside, it may or may not work. Also, the cost of buying the hard drives, the NAS, electricity bill because its on around 17 hours a day, and also the subscription for the fixed IP address is too much. You then have to worry about backing up, and all these adminstrative things. So in the end, perhaps just storing things in the cloud (please use a reputable one) could be appropriate for me.

 

[watzup_ken]

It depends on how much space you need. IF you need 20-30TB, its very expensive. If just 1-2TB, its very cheap.

30TB cost around $400 a month. Over 3yrs period, thats over 14K. Does a 30TB NAS cost you anywhere near 10K?

This is true. So it depends on individual's usage pattern. For me, I don't use that much space, prolly a 2TB storage is good enough for me.

 

[Clearnfc]

This also largely depends if it's the RAID controller that fails or the HDD. The worry is on getting the same RAID controller to rebuild the RAID.

That one really depends on what you are using and the RAID you are using. RAID 1 will be extremely easy to recover. RAID5 will be alot harder.

 

[watzup_ken]

In my opinion, whether to use SSD, HDD or Cloud storage depends on individual needs and budget. You need to consider how much space you actually need because I feel a lot of people are driven by more is better, i.e. only need 2TB, but want to get a 4TB/ 8TB kind of storage. Its pointless because the odds of you using all of it is quite slim.
1. If you need a lot of storage, then HDD is the most cost efficient,

2. If you need just say less than 4TB, then generally SSD may be a better alternative. It is certainly more expensive than HDD, but I feel the odds of a HDD failing is much higher based on my personal experience. Especially so when you buy the cheap HDD/ portable hard disks,

3. If you need say less than 2TB, then Cloud will be my recommendation. Not to mention that you can easily access the data as long as you are connected online.

 

[-Synchronicity-]

It depends on how much space you need. IF you need 20-30TB, its very expensive. If just 1-2TB, its very cheap.

30TB cost around $400 a month. Over 3yrs period, thats over 14K. Does a 30TB NAS cost you anywhere near 10K?

Backblaze is 110 USD for 2 years. Unlimited data.

 

[-Synchronicity-]

The unlimited backup plan is not a cloud storage.

Not once did I say it was for storage. All of my replies was from the perspective of backup.

If storage is really a concern, then get a domain + google workspace unlimited storage tier at 20USD/240USD per year.

A cheap domain is like 5-10 sgd for like 10 years. Rounds out to about 340 - 360 SGD per year for unlimited storage. It used to be much cheaper but google recently just crapped over new users. I'm a currently subscriber but am still on the old plan of 12USD/month/user and I'm using this for media storage since these data are perishable and not important to me

For smaller storage like say <1TB and you rarely access it, cloud storage options like backblaze B2 is super ideal as you pay for what you upload/download which is 0.005usd/gb/month and download is at 0.01usd/gb

So let's say you have a 200GB data which you upload, that's 1USD per month. And if you do download it, 2USD per download.

Let's say you upload a total of say, 5GB of changes per month, that's going to add like 0.025 USD per month.

No matter how I see it, both options for storage still beats NAS + HDD since there are maintenance cost to keep in mind(electricity, NAS/HDD going kauput + troubleshooting)

Unless you value privacy/security(they both do support encryption but where they host their DC are hmmmmm) + have a crappy connection which shouldn't be the case since we have one of the cheapest internet in the world. Although I don't deny that local storage is much quicker due to latency.

 

[Clearnfc]

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[Illusionist_85]

Cloud storage is good but if one fine day u up loli n din pay for the subscription. What will happen to those files?

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[watzup_ken]

Cloud storage is good but if one fine day u up loli n din pay for the subscription. What will happen to those files?

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I think you are thinking too far ahead man. To be honest, if you are gone, why bother about those data?

 

[Clearnfc]

Cloud storage is good but if one fine day u up loli n din pay for the subscription. What will happen to those files?

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ITs the same as if your HDD die....

 

[Illusionist_85]

I think you are thinking too far ahead man. To be honest, if you are gone, why bother about those data?

Family photos, videos etc, although got keep a set on a hdd

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[EJB]

That one really depends on what you are using and the RAID you are using. RAID 1 will be extremely easy to recover. RAID5 will be alot harder.

Precisely my worry when I was going to do RAID, then I stopped and just did JBOD. Old NAS now anyway, will look forward to changing a new NAS that support larger disks and probably put 2x 20TB inside and do RAID1.

 

[watzup_ken]

Family photos, videos etc, although got keep a set on a hdd

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For photos, I always print out those that my wife and myself like periodically. So even if the data is gone due to bad drive, the hardcopy is still there. Videos wise, you need to determine if you really watch them. For me, videos that I film of my kids, generally we don't watch them as much as we look at photos.

There is no fail safe method to keeping data. So just do what you think makes sense and can be easily accessed by others/ love ones.

 

[Hafi]

It depends on how much space you need. IF you need 20-30TB, its very expensive. If just 1-2TB, its very cheap.

30TB cost around $400 a month. Over 3yrs period, thats over 14K. Does a 30TB NAS cost you anywhere near 10K?

yes storing 30TB online in the cloud like AWS is very expensive in the long run but there are ways for cheaper alternatives and I list you 3.

For example:

1. Google Workspace (formerly GSuite) offers "non-metered" storage for about USD$13/month/account. They will be rebranding to Workspace so there will be changes and price increase but the "non-metered" storage for Enterprise account will still be there. I personally have 2 accounts with more than 10TB of archives each and have not met any issues except that cannot upload past 750GB limit per day.

2. BackBlaze backup offers unlimited desktop backups (with encryption) for US$60/yr. Downside to this is you need to maintain your own hdd drives and then sync to Backblaze once every 30 days or pay to extend the storage period if you don't wish to plug in your hdds to sync.

3. Mega.nz Business account also offers unlimited storage (with encryption) but you need minimum of 3 accounts at 10 EUR/month/account.


Add Disclaimer: I have accounts in all of the above so I know what I am talking about.

 

[Hafi]

Cloud storage is good but if one fine day u up loli n din pay for the subscription. What will happen to those files?

Your files will be deleted after a grace period after you stop paying your subscription.

 

[freshvibes]

If speed is not a concern to you then use HDD.

SSD is fast but much more expensive too.