Starhub 1Gbps Fibre Review

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I do not recommend to base the free issued router as the criteria to select ISPs. I will recommend to buy better routers yourself.

Nokia Beacon 1 is a lousy router, much worse than the free Asus RT-AX55 or TP-Link Archer AX72 or AX73 offered by M1. So I would not say it is good enough for basic usage. However, I do not consider the two free issued routers from M1 to be good either. They may be good enough for basic usage though.

the pleasure of a sweet deal ("free isp router") is forgotten long after the bitterness of the poor router performance lingers
 

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Is smart WiFi sufficient for basic usage? Other ISPs are offering Asus/Tplink routers in their package so I'm wondering if there are any drawbacks from Starhub's in house router.

as i understand it, the Nokia Beacon is mainly for those who want to watch free-to-air channels, but this restriction is easily gotten around with mewatch. the resale price is an indicator of how the market views this model.

better to choose the ISP based on your (and family's) useage and needs.
 

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Hi,

Does anyone manage to achieve close to 1GB internet speed? I'm using a Deco M5, 3 pieces as my router. In my furthest room from 1st Deco M5 (which is next to my modem), I'm achieving only like 28 Mbps. Even right next to my 1st Deco M5, I can only get 93 Mbps...

What's wrong....
 

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Hi,

Does anyone manage to achieve close to 1GB internet speed? I'm using a Deco M5, 3 pieces as my router. In my furthest room from 1st Deco M5 (which is next to my modem), I'm achieving only like 28 Mbps. Even right next to my 1st Deco M5, I can only get 93 Mbps...

What's wrong....
Wired or wireless?
 

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Hi,

Does anyone manage to achieve close to 1GB internet speed? I'm using a Deco M5, 3 pieces as my router. In my furthest room from 1st Deco M5 (which is next to my modem), I'm achieving only like 28 Mbps. Even right next to my 1st Deco M5, I can only get 93 Mbps...

What's wrong....

are the satellites on wireless or wired backhaul?

at the slow node, what is the signal strength? (is it strong signal but slow speed?)


can you post your floor plan and router & satellite locations?
 

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are the satellites on wireless or wired backhaul?

at the slow node, what is the signal strength? (is it strong signal but slow speed?)


can you post your floor plan and router & satellite locations?
Not sure what you mean by wireless or wired backhaul. How do i check?

At the slow node, the WIFI symbol actually shows full strength ... but still only recording 28mbps.

Dun have floor plan now but typical 3 bedroom 1000 sf apartment with living room leading to a passageway with 3 bedrooms. The slowest node is in the further bedroom. The 1st node (which is right next to the modem) is in the living room. The weird thing even like 2 cm next to my 1st node, I'm recording only 93 Mbps...while showing full signal strength.
 
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Not sure what you mean by wireless or wired backhaul. How do i check?

At the slow node, the WIFI symbol actually shows full strength ... but still only recording 28mbps.

Dun have floor plan now but typical 3 bedroom 1000 sf apartment with living room leading to a passageway with 3 bedrooms. The slowest node is in the further bedroom. The 1st node (which is right next to the modem) is in the living room. The weird thing even like 2 cm next to my 1st node, I'm recording only 93 Mbps...

"backhaul" is the term used to describe how the satellites are connected. if cable, then wired backhaul. if they are wirelessly connected, then wireless backhaul.

wireless backhaul is slower, higher latency.
it would be faster if the satellite is connected by 5GHz, but sometimes it uses 2.4GHz.
the speeds you mention are in line with 2.4GHz. if the device/client reports 5GHz connection at this slow speed, your backhaul could be at 2.4GHz.


The mesh can connect in daisy chain or hub-spoke.
daisy chain is like router-->satellite1-->satellite2.
the bandwidth almost halves before and after every intermediate satellite.
ideally, for mesh, the router is in the centre, but if it is at the far end eg hall, and you are connected at the furthest satellite, you will get strong signal from that satellite, but slower speed.


close to 1Gbps wifi speed is possible with the right clients eg 3 stream devices. most are 2 stream, so max 867 connection and realistically 600+ on 5GHz.
what device are you using? eg recording? if computer, can you upgrade the wifi adapter?


I've not used the m5 so i dun know if you can force 5GHz as the backhaul
(even if you do, does it also allow devices to also connect onn 5GHz?)

if you can wire up the satellites, then you will get much better performance. But i acknowledge that may not be possible for various reasons.
 

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Hi so on 500 Mbps when do wired speed test the upload and download speed will be capped at 49x Mbps? If yes then isn't this a difference already vs 1 Gbps which usually show 9xx Mbps?

it will certainly be difference but no way one can really tell, u know how fast for a full speed 500Mbps to download a file even a file of few GB?
 

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I just plugged in an ethernet cable from my laptop into the 1st M5 node ... and it shows a speed of around 93Mbps... so does it mean it is a modem issue?
 

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I just plugged in an ethernet cable from my laptop into the 1st M5 node ... and it shows a speed of around 93Mbps... so does it mean it is a modem issue?

1st node means? the unit attached to the ont (ie the router) or the 1st satellite?

a. what is your cable marked as? "Cat 5" or "Cat 5e" or "Enhanced Cat 5" or "Cat 6" or ???
if "Cat 5" or "Category 5" then that is your problem.

b. if not "Cat 5", try connecting to the ONT
 

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1st node means? the unit attached to the ont (ie the router) or the 1st satellite?

a. what is your cable marked as? "Cat 5" or "Cat 5e" or "Enhanced Cat 5" or "Cat 6" or ???
if "Cat 5" or "Category 5" then that is your problem.

b. if not "Cat 5", try connecting to the ONT
1st node means the one attached to modem. It is sitting right next to modem in living room.

Are you referring to the Ethernet cable from the 1st node to the laptop I used to test? I used the new one that StarHub gave me recently for me TV set top box upgrade… so should be quite a new version.
 

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1. Like what loganrunning wrote, most likely cable problem

2. install wifi scanner app and see which channel you are connected to, channel 1-13 is from 2.4ghz.

It is better to disable 2.4ghz if you are not using it (from the tplink main network wireless screen). If you want to use 2.4ghz, then disable it from main network and then create a guest network for it, then you can have 2 different ssid, 1 for 5ghz (main network) and 1 for 2.4ghz (guest network).

https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/1591/
Ok, will go install the wifi scanner app. What’s the advantage or disadvantages of using either 2.4 or 5 ghz Anyway?
 

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2.4ghz is slower response and slower speed, good is range better than 5ghz. It is often used by old/legacy devices, which nowadays people hardly used at all. You have 3 piece deco, then no issue using the 5ghz alone.
2.4ghz not true people hardly use. Lower end Android phones still use ☺️
 

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1st node means the one attached to modem. It is sitting right next to modem in living room.

Are you referring to the Ethernet cable from the 1st node to the laptop I used to test? I used the new one that StarHub gave me recently for me TV set top box upgrade… so should be quite a new version.

ok, just check it to eliminate that cause. if damaged, or not inserted fully, can cause the same symptoms.
damaged/worn out sockets can also be a cause
 

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Yes, that is what I wrote, people hardly used 2.4ghz, hardly != 100%, only 箫狼 still using 2.4ghz ☺️
Hardly = very few people use...

But still many on 2.4ghz only.

The very cheap android phone models still running on 2.4ghz only. I have a few device.

No need to look down on people using cheap or old version device.
 

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wa, your english very vege lay, hardly != 100% != not very few people use, it can be 90%, 95%, 99%,
and 箫狼 != to look down on people using cheap or old version device, = bird people talking bird language
I wrote "It is often used by old/legacy devices", so what talking you ? Myna bird ?

You using not implying 50% of others are also using, who knows where you are from and what you are using ?
And if you want to quote on my post (when I am replying to others asking questions), then better get prepared to be called 箫狼
萧狼 is mad people in hokien right ? Why is it people still using 2.4ghz are mad ?

You were very helpful to advise people on this and other threads. But such language and tone is uncalled for.
 
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1st node means the one attached to modem. It is sitting right next to modem in living room.

Are you referring to the Ethernet cable from the 1st node to the laptop I used to test? I used the new one that StarHub gave me recently for me TV set top box upgrade… so should be quite a new version.
I did a further test. This time, I used the new Ethernet cable given to me by Starhub and connected directly to my modem. Even then it still recorded about 93 mbps! Does that mean my modem is spoilt?
 

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I did a further test. This time, I used the new Ethernet cable given to me by Starhub and connected directly to my modem. Even then it still recorded about 93 mbps! Does that mean my modem is spoilt?

Hard to tell if ONT or your laptop/desktop NIC issue.

What the link speed showing on Windows? 93mbps seems to be running at 100mbps speed.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-determine-wi-fi-and-ethernet-connection-speed-windows-10

Do you know your NIC card model no?
 

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Wanted to downgrade my 1Gbps HomeHub bundle to just 500Mbps Fibre only @$29.90/mth but thankfully I am eligible for 1Gbps Fibre only promo with free 5 months of subscription so the cost worked out to be only $31.50/ month.

I thought for just $1 extra, it’s a no brainer to continue with 1Gbps without paying $30 downgrade fee.
I’m also on homehub currently and thinking of cutting off StarHub TV as my contract is due soon. May I know what is this effective $31.50/month promotion as I couldn’t find it in their website?
 
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