storage for archival

[rrr2015]

i like ssd becoz of transfer speed portability & storage size. but read that it's not suitable for archival as stored charges dimished overtime.

is there anyway to overcome this shortcoming?

 

[Entry Level PC]

i like ssd becoz of transfer speed portability & storage size. but read that it's not suitable for archival as stored charges dimished overtime.

is there anyway to overcome this shortcoming?

Buy a Secondary HDD and then backup to it at night.


SDD will kaput with no warning.

 

[alamakazim]

If prawn... Let it be lah... Many new ones to watch lol

Seriously it depends how important and how much u can afford

 

[Entry Level PC]

If prawn... Let it be lah... Many new ones to watch lol

Seriously it depends how important and how much u can afford

yeah lor.
if prawn just pay for a lifetime account.

 

[rrr2015]

thanks for suggestions

my standard HDD able to store data many years (10++ years) but too bulky. hence was looking at portable ssd with usb 3.1

i read ssd data can be refresh (annually?) by rewriting over again, but couldn't find amy utility that does that.

 

[AS1]

Archival best is still tape drive. But our level, easiest is Raid 1 but problem is both drives are onsite. Cloud storage could cost a bomb when hit the TB stage.

 

[watzup_ken]

thanks for suggestions

my standard HDD able to store data many years (10++ years) but too bulky. hence was looking at portable ssd with usb 3.1

i read ssd data can be refresh (annually?) by rewriting over again, but couldn't find amy utility that does that.

I just want to call out, the hard drives nowadays are generally not built to last this long nowadays based on my experience. So if you choose a mechanical drive to backup data, there is also a high chance it may not work after some time.

When it comes to archival, you must consider having redundancies when backing up. In addition, you should also consider if it is worthwhile to archive some of these data. I used to hoard a lot of files/ documents, which I figured at some point that I actually don't use them. In the end, I've deleted all of them except for my family photos and videos. For these, I previously stored them in Bluray discs, and now storing them in SSD and cloud (iCloud and Microsoft Cloud).

 

[watzup_ken]

Archival best is still tape drive. But our level, easiest is Raid 1 but problem is both drives are onsite. Cloud storage could cost a bomb when hit the TB stage.

Magnetic tape drives are very lasting, but its uber slow. So seriously if you are transferring GBs of data, be prepared to pay for a lot of tapes and very long transfer times.

 

[speedstream]

Magnetic tape drives are very lasting, but its uber slow. So seriously if you are transferring GBs of data, be prepared to pay for a lot of tapes and very long transfer times.

LTO tape drive have very fast speed, LTO 5 tape backup is faster than usb hard disk for backup process.

 

[kandinsky]

i read ssd data can be refresh (annually?) by rewriting over again, but couldn't find amy utility that does that.

Dunno how zhun this is - this guy says just connect to PC, browse for a bit and leave connected for 10 mins.

With SSD-s, even though they have no magnet disks, or moving parts, stored data will degrade if they are not being used (not powered on). Consumer grade SSD-s should be powered on at least once every 6 months. For server grade SSD-s, it is advisory at least once per month.

So all you need to do is connect the drive to a computer and browse the contents. Less than a minute should do. Just open an image, or edit a text file. Then leave the drive on for at least 10 minutes. It will automatically refresh the cells that need refreshing.

https://io.bikegremlin.com/13914/disk-data-refresh/#2.2

 

[rrr2015]

thanks! seems like good idea to try. am thinking using error or integrity scans to help refresh also

Dunno how zhun this is - this guy says just connect to PC, browse for a bit and leave connected for 10 mins.

 

[rrr2015]

thanks! LTO technology is new to me & sure looks interesting. but don't think suitable for me (as home user) as I don't want to acquire new peripheral just for backup.

LTO tape drive have very fast speed, LTO 5 tape backup is faster than usb hard disk for backup process.

Archival best is still tape drive. But our level, easiest is Raid 1 but problem is both drives are onsite. Cloud storage could cost a bomb when hit the TB stage.

 

[rrr2015]

like you, mostly photo & videos. documents don't require big storage. like you also, i have moved from DVD to HDD for archival. but now that my HDD already >10yo, am thinking of moving them to new storage media.

still prefer SSD (not thumbdrive, these failed quite frequently) due to smaller size, portability & costs. but worry data may fade (i read) if kept for long term offline (i.e disconnected). so hope to find a way to overcome. for now, i don't feel safe using cloud storage.

data detox always been challenging for me, wonder if there's marie kondo for data detox

I just want to call out, the hard drives nowadays are generally not built to last this long nowadays based on my experience. So if you choose a mechanical drive to backup data, there is also a high chance it may not work after some time.

When it comes to archival, you must consider having redundancies when backing up. In addition, you should also consider if it is worthwhile to archive some of these data. I used to hoard a lot of files/ documents, which I figured at some point that I actually don't use them. In the end, I've deleted all of them except for my family photos and videos. For these, I previously stored them in Bluray discs, and now storing them in SSD and cloud (iCloud and Microsoft Cloud).

 

[86technie]

SSD is basically flash memory, if the memory gets corrupted
data will be lost as well as there is a write cycle.
I would get a good portable Hard disk like from Seagate
or get a NAS but NAS you can't carry with you.

Tip from me, if you are using portable hard disk.
Shutdown the PC before removing.
Safely remove does not cut the current to the HDD thus
it is still spinning.

If the HDD is still spinning and you just pull out.
Overtime the HDD will spoilt and data will be corrupted.

 

[Clearnfc]

i like ssd becoz of transfer speed portability & storage size. but read that it's not suitable for archival as stored charges dimished overtime.

is there anyway to overcome this shortcoming?

For normal storage, HDD will do. If you are worried the HDD kaput and your prawn farm GG, get 2 for RAID 1. If not, you can also purchase cloud storage and store in cloud.

 

[xonix]

Simple solution. Raid 1

 

[Gaiason]

For true long term storage will be to burn the data onto archival blu ray discs.

 

[rrr2015]

read about M-disk while good they're just slow & not quite portable as SSD. quite pricey as well

For true long term storage will be to burn the data onto archival blu ray discs.

not really portable & want to keep it offline once backup

Simple solution. Raid 1

just want to keep offline once i backup. again HDD quite bulky compared to SSD

For normal storage, HDD will do. If you are worried the HDD kaput and your prawn farm GG, get 2 for RAID 1. If not, you can also purchase cloud storage and store in cloud.

Thanks for the tip. for some reasons, portable usb HDD that stored offline sometimes doesn't get detected by windows 10. takes alot of plug in & out, deleting drivers to get it back

SSD is basically flash memory, if the memory gets corrupted
data will be lost as well as there is a write cycle.
I would get a good portable Hard disk like from Seagate
or get a NAS but NAS you can't carry with you.

Tip from me, if you are using portable hard disk.
Shutdown the PC before removing.
Safely remove does not cut the current to the HDD thus
it is still spinning.

If the HDD is still spinning and you just pull out.
Overtime the HDD will spoilt and data will be corrupted.

guess will experiment with SSD. searching more info on how to extend the data
charges. (e.g regular integrity check, disk scans etc)

many thanks for all your suggestions!

 

[AS1]

Another trick you can do would be the seedbox concept. Basically create a vpn network between your local drive and an offsite drive/nas like at your workplace. This one is more to dump your files rather than do an image backup.

The chance both locations are compromised is highly improbable. Only thing is both locations ideally should have unlimited WiFi.

 

[Koenig168]

Another trick you can do would be the seedbox concept. Basically create a vpn network between your local drive and an offsite drive/nas like at your workplace. This one is more to dump your files rather than do an image backup.

The chance both locations are compromised is highly improbable. Only thing is both locations ideally should have unlimited WiFi.

That's a good way to get fired.