Suitable cpu cooler for 5800x

[helios467]

Hi everyone,

I am looking to upgrade my cpu to a 5800x. I understand that this is the hottest (literally) cpu even compared to the 5900x, so was wondering if the ID cooling se 224 xt is good enough for cooling this beast.

I have seen good reviews for this, and its rated at 180w tdp, so since the 5800x is rated at 105w tdp, I felt it should be ok.

My casing is the lian li 011d, where the clearance given is ≤155mm for any air coolers, and this se224xt seems to fit just nicely at 154mm.

Would there be any other comments on better coolers or if my reasoning is not sound enough?

Thank you.

 

[tigerwoods]

I am using 5800x, my advice is get the best water cooler you can afford.

 

[obichacha]

360mm EK AIO should be good for cooling down, don’t expected Air cooler can be efficient

 

[ragnarok95]

If you are not going for serious over clocking, how is a air cooling heatsink not enough to cool it? Just get a decent/better heatsink like the noctua.

 

[watzup_ken]

Hi everyone,

I am looking to upgrade my cpu to a 5800x. I understand that this is the hottest (literally) cpu even compared to the 5900x, so was wondering if the ID cooling se 224 xt is good enough for cooling this beast.

I have seen good reviews for this, and its rated at 180w tdp, so since the 5800x is rated at 105w tdp, I felt it should be ok.

My casing is the lian li 011d, where the clearance given is ≤155mm for any air coolers, and this se224xt seems to fit just nicely at 154mm.

Would there be any other comments on better coolers or if my reasoning is not sound enough?

Thank you.

I generally take the cooling capability advertised with a pinch of salt. While the 5800X does not burn through a lot of power, i.e. 141W is the max when boosting, but because of the chipset design, it is very hard to keep the chip cool. So my recommendation is to get something like 280mm AIO cooler. Otherwise, you will need to tweak the PBO to keep the chip cool.

 

[KleoZy]

Assuming your case (o11d) have good airflow with performance fans. You can choose to use air cooling, but make sure is dual towel like the Noctua NH-D15 or Scythe FUMA 2 Twin-Tower or the bequiet dark rock pro 4, it depends on your budget. you can also choose to use Liquid AIO, so far 280 AIO is a sweet spot to chill your processor, if you find it ugly, get 360. Either will work. Another thing is, be it air cooling or liquid aio, using PBO2 to undervolt your processor will be at advantage.

Spoiler: Happy with my temperature

my results with 280 AIO, undervolt with PBO2

Spoiler: Some reference on PBO2

 

[watzup_ken]

My recommendation for a good AIO is the Arctic Liquid Freezer II. The reason for the recommendation is because Arctic actually came up with the AMD offset mount, which helps centralise the water block over the area of the chip that runs hot. But I do want to point out that whether one can utilise the offset mount, depends on the motherboard because when I tried using the offset mount on the MSI Mortar B550M Wifi board, it will not fit because of the components around the CPU socket obstructing it.
For 5800X, I feel you should never leave it running at stock, i.e. you should tweak the PBO values to optimised the chip. Previously I was using a 360mm Arctic Liquid Freezer to cool the 5800X, and when running Cinebench R20, it hit 87 degrees in no more than a minute. After reducing the PPT, TDC and EDC value, I lost 3% performance but at the same time drastically decreasing the temp to 73 degrees C under the same load test.

 

[KleoZy]

My recommendation for a good AIO is the Arctic Liquid Freezer II. The reason for the recommendation is because Arctic actually came up with the AMD offset mount, which helps centralise the water block over the area of the chip that runs hot. But I do want to point out that whether one can utilise the offset mount, depends on the motherboard because when I tried using the offset mount on the MSI Mortar B550M Wifi board, it will not fit because of the components around the CPU socket obstructing it.
For 5800X, I feel you should never leave it running at stock, i.e. you should tweak the PBO values to optimised the chip. Previously I was using a 360mm Arctic Liquid Freezer to cool the 5800X, and when running Cinebench R20, it hit 87 degrees in no more than a minute. After reducing the PPT, TDC and EDC value, I lost 3% performance but at the same time drastically decreasing the temp to 73 degrees C under the same load test.

This I totally agree with watzup_ken, you don't need to drastically pump PPT, TDC, EDC but you got to play with PBO2 optimiser curve. it really helps heaps. as for Arctic Liquid Freezer II 280 offset. yup it does help 1 to 2 degrees on my end but hey 1 to 2 degrees is better than nothing, but just need to take note on the paste spread. do not apply too much.

 

[KYZT2021]

Can consider NH D15 OR CM MA624 Stealth

 

[Lastwishes]

If you want to get the best performance out of the 5800x, go for a good AIO for the 5000 series. I have the Noctua NH D15 on a 5950x and it's actually limiting my PBO2 settings quite a bit; though admittedly, the chip is quite overkill for my usage.

 

[tigerwoods]

My 5800x playing BF5 can hit 80c but others games hit 70 to 75c.

 

[Ark Law]

If only AMD released the non-X variants to retail. It would've wiped the floor in the consumer market and made cooling less of an issue for much more builds.

My 5900 never gets past 65c during gaming even in non-aircon.

 

[Phen8210]

If you are not going for serious over clocking, how is a air cooling heatsink not enough to cool it? Just get a decent/better heatsink like the noctua.

Hi everyone,

I am looking to upgrade my cpu to a 5800x. I understand that this is the hottest (literally) cpu even compared to the 5900x, so was wondering if the ID cooling se 224 xt is good enough for cooling this beast.

I have seen good reviews for this, and its rated at 180w tdp, so since the 5800x is rated at 105w tdp, I felt it should be ok.

My casing is the lian li 011d, where the clearance given is ≤155mm for any air coolers, and this se224xt seems to fit just nicely at 154mm.

Would there be any other comments on better coolers or if my reasoning is not sound enough?

Thank you.

5800x heat is denser compared to 5900x and 5950x. Google has plenty of explanations, and I suggest looking it up.

Anyways, you would want to get an above-average air cooler or good AIO. You have a case with decent space and airflow, should be straightforward. Don't want to waste your time so i'd be blunt, the se224xt is not a good pick.

If you want the best budget to performance ratio for air cooler, Fuma 2 is a good pick. Otherwise, i'd get the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360.

You can check out this channel
https://www.youtube.com/c/TheTechBuyersGuru/videos
He has lots of videos when it comes to coolers and fans.

 

[helios467]

Thank you everyone, really appreciate the feedback.

Seems like the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 is the best pick, especially something about their build which bro watzup_ken mentioned above about the AMD offset mount. This bit of information did not come up in all my video and forum searches, so many thanks for that.

Will look into my budgeting again to accomodate AIOs (almost definitely the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360).

Have a great night everyone!

 

[summer_dell]

i recently purchased a corsair h150i caplliex, but realised they didnt include the standoff for lga 1700. The shop wanted to charge me 20 dollars for it when i query.

 

[watzup_ken]

Thank you everyone, really appreciate the feedback.

Seems like the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 is the best pick, especially something about their build which bro watzup_ken mentioned above about the AMD offset mount. This bit of information did not come up in all my video and forum searches, so many thanks for that.

Will look into my budgeting again to accomodate AIOs (almost definitely the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360).

Have a great night everyone!

I think the size of the radiator depends on your PC setup and casing. Not every casing/ setup can fit in a 360mm AIO. If that is the limiting factor, then just go with the 280mm version. The performance delta is minimal. I went with the 360mm version previously as my casing was not able to accommodate 280mm AIO as the mounts can fit on 120, 240 or 360mm. The 280mm is a little cheaper as well. But do note, the Arctic Liquid Freezer radiator is thicker, so you should measure and see if it will cause obstructions before committing to one.

 

[KleoZy]

i recently purchased a corsair h150i caplliex, but realised they didnt include the standoff for lga 1700. The shop wanted to charge me 20 dollars for it when i query.

so sorry to hear that. guess you have no choice as they don't have an option to requests them to ship you with the bracket.

Thank you everyone, really appreciate the feedback.

Seems like the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360 is the best pick, especially something about their build which bro watzup_ken mentioned above about the AMD offset mount. This bit of information did not come up in all my video and forum searches, so many thanks for that.

Will look into my budgeting again to accomodate AIOs (almost definitely the Arctic Liquid Freezer II 360).

Have a great night everyone!

if you decided to get the Arctic Liquid Freezer II, do check if it's rev06 as it comes with the 1700 bracket. if it does not, you can always request for one, so long you have the official receipt of your Gen 12th processor or motherboard. https://www.arctic.de/en/support/lga1700-mounting-kits/ , I got mine within a week.
Another tip, go with the original and not the argb version. The original fans have better static pressure as compared to their new argb fans.

 

[watzup_ken]

i recently purchased a corsair h150i caplliex, but realised they didnt include the standoff for lga 1700. The shop wanted to charge me 20 dollars for it when i query.

I actually don't know who messed up, Intel or the cooler makers. Problem is that Alder Lake launched with a lot of fan fare. But as you look for parts, besides motherboard and the CPU itself, you can barely get any DDR5, nor cooler with out of the box LGA1700 support. That's still pretty much the case now even though the situation have improved. I gave up trying to get an ADL system after looking around for a month or so.

For your case, you should try and send Corsair or the distributor (I believe is Convergent) to see if they can offer you the mounting kit for LGA1700. The thing is that even with the mounting kit, the cooler may not work well with ADL due to mounting pressure differences, as well as the size of the cold plate.

 

[KleoZy]

I actually don't know who messed up, Intel or the cooler makers. Problem is that Alder Lake launched with a lot of fan fare. But as you look for parts, besides motherboard and the CPU itself, you can barely get any DDR5, nor cooler with out of the box LGA1700 support. That's still pretty much the case now even though the situation have improved. I gave up trying to get an ADL system after looking around for a month or so.

For your case, you should try and send Corsair or the distributor (I believe is Convergent) to see if they can offer you the mounting kit for LGA1700. The thing is that even with the mounting kit, the cooler may not work well with ADL due to mounting pressure differences, as well as the size of the cold plate.

Seriously after testing some liquid AIOs (most test are done on friend's or colleague's build), it does not matter what kind of AIO you are using, I find it difficult to mount any liquid AIO nicely on the 12th Gen CPU, problem is, it's rectangular. Base on experience, it varies on temperature, whether swapping liquid AIOs or using same liquid AIO, in and out on the same system, very inconsistent in temperature. If you mount it right, lets say 85 at full load, when you repasted and to redo the mount, it can go up to 90 to 92 degrees. Again redoing it, it might goes down to 84 to 85 again. Intel should stick with square shape processor, where the margin of error is minimal. oh well. just have to try and get it right lol. Else for AMD 5000 series or even the Intel 11th Gen. when you repasted and remount, the temperature at least is not so significant. most is at 2 to 3 degrees difference.

 

[summer_dell]

thanks for the response guys. I called convergent and they ask me to get the stand offs from the shop I purchased. and that's the end of the story. I mean, since they are the distributor for corsair, shouldn't they also prep standoffs potentially for people who are dumping 240sgd on an aio cooler for ALD system ? it's like I buy from shop and no stand off is my own problem. And to my horror, the sls shop wanted to charge me 20 dollars for lga1700.

anyway, I tried to get from corsair website and unfortunately they only shipped within US. After searching high and low, I ended up at lazada corsair official shop ( googled for Singapore corsair standsoff). I was disappointed that the listing oos, so decided to chat with corsair on lazada. The person manning the chat was a nice chap, saying will look for the standsoff. End up there was, and the rest is history. made my purchase for 5 dollars.




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