SUSS/SIM-UOL Computing Students !

Bradsterr

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I'm looking to enrol into SIM-UOL Bsc in creative computing but there is little information available online. Hope current or graduate students can answer some of the following questions !

- What are the main differences between creative computing and the Computing&Information system BSc ? The modules look exactly the same except for year 3 electives units

- How are lessons conducted for computing as UOL is known for lectures only and then you go home prepare for that one exam

- How many programming languages did u guys learn as it states only JAVA and HTML taught.

-What's the number of students enrolled (Guy/Girl ratio also hehe)

- What were some of the internship or Jobs did creative grads get offered ?

-Whats some of the stuff that you guys created etc..

Hope someone could clarify at least a few questions as this course is damn low profile. SIM student enquiry emailing didnt help as well because they simply copy and paste the stuff in the brochure
 

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Hello! This may not be the answer that you want, but I'm enrolling in creative computing this year too! Will you be studying/taking any computing in advance? And do you have any background in IT courses?
 

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Hello! This may not be the answer that you want, but I'm enrolling in creative computing this year too! Will you be studying/taking any computing in advance? And do you have any background in IT courses?

Hi, I'm probably enrolling next year still serving NS hahas. Currently learning programming from youtube and coding sites to just prepare for general com science. Nope, came from a business diploma in NP
 

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- What are the main differences between creative computing and the Computing&Information system BSc ? The modules look exactly the same except for year 3 electives units

Not sure about Creative Computing, as it came after Computing & Information Systems; and as far as I can tell is a derivative of it with a different focus

The focus of Computing & Information Systems (as I see it) was to teach the concepts that would help you bridge/translate the difference between how Business sees software development, versus how Technology actually does software development (one of the lecturers was a Project Manager by training and could clearly articulate the difference). You get to touch a little of all sides, and depending on the electives you choose, can move more towards one or the other. That said, if I recall, most of the electives tend to be more Technology focused as opposed to Business Management focused (so credits to the lecturer who gave the class a more comprehensive view of the Business world as it should work).

- How are lessons conducted for computing as UOL is known for lectures only and then you go home prepare for that one exam

Again, not sure about how it is conducted for Creative Computing. Computing & Information Systems had mostly lectures and lab lessons. And yes, you prepare mainly for the major exams. One major project for year 3, which you should start preparing from the 2nd year onward, especially if you like to take things slow (street smarts play a part: if you understand what they are looking for, it'd really cut down on the time needed for prep. Regardless, it's what you learn at the end of the day that matters). It's a very traditional course in terms of teaching model. Granted, it still works.

Lecture-wise, be open to asking questions to the lecturers as far as possible (you can do it after lecture). Quality of lecturers differ greatly (as with any group of teachers in a school), but some of them would really go the extra mile to answer your questions and help you along, so long as you demonstrate the willingness to learn/think deeper and prepare your work - asking questions that you can already read from the material handouts is not a good demonstration of that.


- How many programming languages did u guys learn as it states only JAVA and HTML taught.

JAVA, basic HTML, SML (neural network/machine-learning related; though less associated with the latter than the former); syllabus should have changed by now.

Truth be told, what would be taught are the basic syntax and concepts. The idea is to instill an up-to intermediate concept of how most programming language work (though given the specific characteristics of some programming languages, teaching a different one would yield a slightly different insight), and for you to practice and apply that in your final year project. One of the net benefits is the ability to pick up other languages with far more ease than you would expect to do from scratch. This and the understanding of the business management & software development process models is what gets you prepared for what comes beyond the classroom.


-What's the number of students enrolled (Guy/Girl ratio also hehe)

Ratio was about 2 or 3 guys to 1. Small class, though I don't recall the total number.

- What were some of the internship or Jobs did creative grads get offered ?

I don't recall them informing us about Internship opportunities, when I did check on it, Technology-based internships were few and far in between. You are better off seeking your own internship opportunities and informing the school about it. Heck, this probably applies to most uni students - look for your own internship in your target company/industry. If successful, it helps you build your network early and increases your chances of getting employment within the same company right before or after you graduate.

Most of my classmates moved into the technology sector, as developers, administrators or project managers. One I know well went into Telecoms. Another two took over/started their own business, totally irrelevant to what they learnt. I deviated to the financial sector. I am not aware of any who went to government sector.


-Whats some of the stuff that you guys created etc..

Many happy and silly memories. Along with some pretty dumb ones. For the more practical stuff, I'm not aware of anyone who managed to convert their final year project ideas into a product that could be monetised. There were previous year examples of people who did that, if I recall correctly.
 

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- What are the main differences between creative computing and the Computing&Information system BSc ? The modules look exactly the same except for year 3 electives units

Not sure about Creative Computing, as it came after Computing & Information Systems; and as far as I can tell is a derivative of it with a different focus

The focus of Computing & Information Systems (as I see it) was to teach the concepts that would help you bridge/translate the difference between how Business sees software development, versus how Technology actually does software development (one of the lecturers was a Project Manager by training and could clearly articulate the difference). You get to touch a little of all sides, and depending on the electives you choose, can move more towards one or the other. That said, if I recall, most of the electives tend to be more Technology focused as opposed to Business Management focused (so credits to the lecturer who gave the class a more comprehensive view of the Business world as it should work).

- How are lessons conducted for computing as UOL is known for lectures only and then you go home prepare for that one exam

Again, not sure about how it is conducted for Creative Computing. Computing & Information Systems had mostly lectures and lab lessons. And yes, you prepare mainly for the major exams. One major project for year 3, which you should start preparing from the 2nd year onward, especially if you like to take things slow (street smarts play a part: if you understand what they are looking for, it'd really cut down on the time needed for prep. Regardless, it's what you learn at the end of the day that matters). It's a very traditional course in terms of teaching model. Granted, it still works.

Lecture-wise, be open to asking questions to the lecturers as far as possible (you can do it after lecture). Quality of lecturers differ greatly (as with any group of teachers in a school), but some of them would really go the extra mile to answer your questions and help you along, so long as you demonstrate the willingness to learn/think deeper and prepare your work - asking questions that you can already read from the material handouts is not a good demonstration of that.


- How many programming languages did u guys learn as it states only JAVA and HTML taught.

JAVA, basic HTML, SML (neural network/machine-learning related; though less associated with the latter than the former); syllabus should have changed by now.

Truth be told, what would be taught are the basic syntax and concepts. The idea is to instill an up-to intermediate concept of how most programming language work (though given the specific characteristics of some programming languages, teaching a different one would yield a slightly different insight), and for you to practice and apply that in your final year project. One of the net benefits is the ability to pick up other languages with far more ease than you would expect to do from scratch. This and the understanding of the business management & software development process models is what gets you prepared for what comes beyond the classroom.


-What's the number of students enrolled (Guy/Girl ratio also hehe)

Ratio was about 2 or 3 guys to 1. Small class, though I don't recall the total number.

- What were some of the internship or Jobs did creative grads get offered ?

I don't recall them informing us about Internship opportunities, when I did check on it, Technology-based internships were few and far in between. You are better off seeking your own internship opportunities and informing the school about it. Heck, this probably applies to most uni students - look for your own internship in your target company/industry. If successful, it helps you build your network early and increases your chances of getting employment within the same company right before or after you graduate.

Most of my classmates moved into the technology sector, as developers, administrators or project managers. One I know well went into Telecoms. Another two took over/started their own business, totally irrelevant to what they learnt. I deviated to the financial sector. I am not aware of any who went to government sector.


-Whats some of the stuff that you guys created etc..

Many happy and silly memories. Along with some pretty dumb ones. For the more practical stuff, I'm not aware of anyone who managed to convert their final year project ideas into a product that could be monetised. There were previous year examples of people who did that, if I recall correctly.

Wowow glad to hear from actual UOL insiders and despite not being from creative computing your CIS experience does help provide some sweet insight and information that I've been looking for. Thanks so much ! 😆 Hope to get the attention of some CC students as well to provide even more sweet info.
 

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You're welcome. Hope it helps. Make the best of your time wherever you go, and all the best!
 

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Bump

Any more info providers ? Curious to know if you guys learned C++ as it states only Java is taught
 

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I am currently enrolled in Creative Computing programme :)
What exactly would you want to know?
 

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Bsc in Computing and Information Systems UOL - 2019

Hey guys,
Anyone enrolling into Computing and Information Systems in UOL? :D
Any existing students? I would greatly appreciate if I can obtain the study guides for the modules in advance if possible :)
 

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Yea im interested in the Information Technology with Business at SUSS as well. Hows the course like?
 
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