Tesla stock

[win_man]

ARKK buying TSLA again

 

[fzhfzh]

his last reply was if Tesla reaches 250..
the whole market would collapse..





dont say that..

its just too bloody expensive..
yes, EV is the future but really too expensive..
at least to peasants like me..

but seriously, the sell off really hurts..

i'm also caught when i didn't cash my MA..
now, standing on the edge, pinning my hope with NIO..
i even bought NIO when it was 19.50..
lucky, my average is still low at 14.71..

Model 3 is quite affordable in US, cheapest one is only around 40k, less than a bmw 3 series. If you factor in depreciation it’s even better. Tesla depreciate as little as 30% in 3 years, whereas a bmw depreciates almost 70% in the same time. In Singapore all cars are expensive so you can’t look at it that way.

 

[bakuten]

Pretty good support at 200. Tesla valuation looks rich but no other car company is building giant factories on 3 continents. Their supply is still behind demand currently

So what if they have excess supply in their inventory after building so many factories? They go to next part of their strategy, ride hailing to train their robo taxi. They have build one of the world's most powerful super computer called Dojo to train their AI. Lots of things coming for Tesla, we havent seen battery day, Tesla insurance. Also any time they sell megawatt battery infrastructure in place of peaker plants , they earn tens to hundred of millions

I am queuing to buy as price drop. This is a long stock to go in but too many short term buggers push it sky high thats why I sold off most at bubble territory.

here's my take

centralized super computers go obsolete very very quickly and require very high continuous capex investment.
and then they tio whack gao gao by expensive lawsuits when those robo taxis get into accidents and kill people while this dojo continues to train their AI.

battery day will be another day of more promises to suck in even more millenials to invest in them without much to show for.
that million mile battery already priced into the run-up IMO.....and it's not even made by them

thus, in order to survive and keep cash flowing in to fund major capex implementations,
they will continue to dilute their shareholders as long as share prices are kept high enough by the millenials.
meanwhile, they will need to continue to suck even more off the govt teat through selling carbon credits if they are to even survive the next 10 years IMO.



all that being said.....it's good that their vehicle sales are up and costs are down....even though all that savings is offset by lowering prices....still it is good to be able to reduce costs.

the virtual power plant idea is damn good though.....but i wonder how they can actually monetize it profitably and get political support behind them recent rolling blackouts in California doesn't bode well green energy.
it's gonna lose even more political support as Dems have already ditched their "green energy" push and are continuing down the Burn Loot Murder path of politics.

 

[tasslehoffs]

here's my take

centralized super computers go obsolete very very quickly and require very high continuous capex investment.
and then they tio whack gao gao by expensive lawsuits when those robo taxis get into accidents and kill people while this dojo continues to train their AI.

battery day will be another day of more promises to suck in even more millenials to invest in them without much to show for.
that million mile battery already priced into the run-up IMO.....and it's not even made by them

thus, in order to survive and keep cash flowing in to fund major capex implementations,
they will continue to dilute their shareholders as long as share prices are kept high enough by the millenials.
meanwhile, they will need to continue to suck even more off the govt teat through selling carbon credits if they are to even survive the next 10 years IMO.



all that being said.....it's good that their vehicle sales are up and costs are down....even though all that savings is offset by lowering prices....still it is good to be able to reduce costs.

the virtual power plant idea is damn good though.....but i wonder how they can actually monetize it profitably and get political support behind them recent rolling blackouts in California doesn't bode well green energy.
it's gonna lose even more political support as Dems have already ditched their "green energy" push and are continuing down the Burn Loot Murder path of politics.

Yeap there is high capex involved with building all the supercomputer as well as all other operations as well. Raising 5 billlion is a good move to make full use of the fomo investors lol. When I say ride hailing I mean with human drivers to train AI btw, I don't think their tech is ready for the time being, getting approved with lawsuit happy USA even longer Probably autonomous driving will start first in China cause progress is more important than a few dead people.

I really think battery day is going to be not one people expecting. Probably more towards battery production and lowering costs. Tesla is battery hungry so they have their suppliers like Catl and panasonic but also they bought over maxwell so far they have gone dark on this for awhile.

This is one wild ride, lets see how it turns out.

 

[fzhfzh]

here's my take

centralized super computers go obsolete very very quickly and require very high continuous capex investment.
and then they tio whack gao gao by expensive lawsuits when those robo taxis get into accidents and kill people while this dojo continues to train their AI.

battery day will be another day of more promises to suck in even more millenials to invest in them without much to show for.
that million mile battery already priced into the run-up IMO.....and it's not even made by them

thus, in order to survive and keep cash flowing in to fund major capex implementations,
they will continue to dilute their shareholders as long as share prices are kept high enough by the millenials.
meanwhile, they will need to continue to suck even more off the govt teat through selling carbon credits if they are to even survive the next 10 years IMO.



all that being said.....it's good that their vehicle sales are up and costs are down....even though all that savings is offset by lowering prices....still it is good to be able to reduce costs.

the virtual power plant idea is damn good though.....but i wonder how they can actually monetize it profitably and get political support behind them recent rolling blackouts in California doesn't bode well green energy.
it's gonna lose even more political support as Dems have already ditched their "green energy" push and are continuing down the Burn Loot Murder path of politics.

I’m in California and experienced the rolling blackout. It actually increases incentives for green energy. Now I have one more reason to get a Tesla solar roof with their battery pack other than saving electric bill. I won’t have my power cut off when they cut off my power. I also won’t be paying for the power company’s law suits in the form of increased power bills due to the fire they caused.

 

[klanddt]

A million mile battery just mean that for the lifespan of the car you don't need to change out the battery. Who drives their car for over 20 years?

This is the same as saying your petrol car tank no need to replace before you buy a new car.

Nothing to be excited about. Unless once charged the battery can run a million miles now that we can say is a bombastic news. With this alone I am sure the share price is justified at $500 $600 or even the $1500 that ARK chick gambler suggested a while ago.

Imagine $1500 a share with a capital market value of trillions but selling cars and make money off "credits".

This is like bitcoin. And today bitcoin is over $10k a piece.

Yeap there is high capex involved with building all the supercomputer as well as all other operations as well. Raising 5 billlion is a good move to make full use of the fomo investors lol. When I say ride hailing I mean with human drivers to train AI btw, I don't think their tech is ready for the time being, getting approved with lawsuit happy USA even longer Probably autonomous driving will start first in China cause progress is more important than a few dead people.

I really think battery day is going to be not one people expecting. Probably more towards battery production and lowering costs. Tesla is battery hungry so they have their suppliers like Catl and panasonic but also they bought over maxwell so far they have gone dark on this for awhile.

This is one wild ride, lets see how it turns out.

 

[reddevil0728]

Who drives their car for over 20 years?

A lot of Americans I think.

 

[bakuten]

I’m in California and experienced the rolling blackout. It actually increases incentives for green energy. Now I have one more reason to get a Tesla solar roof with their battery pack other than saving electric bill. I won’t have my power cut off when they cut off my power. I also won’t be paying for the power company’s law suits in the form of increased power bills due to the fire they caused.

California is going bankrupt....if Gavin newsome continues his support for Burn Loot Murder, once fed funds get cut off.....where is california gonna dig out the money to keep funding?

Fire was caused by State government mismanagement....never clear out the dead trees...even reported in NYTimes. Dont get memory holed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/us/california-today-100-million-dead-trees-prompt-fears-of-giant-wildfires.html

 

[HMAN]

i recalled when Tesla split,
a friend keep telling me to buy as he shared with me many good stuff about the company and its future.

his last price was at $450
i told him if we could see Tesla at $250..


same for AAPL

Just continue to DCA. $288 buy, $250 buy.$220 buy.
Need to have cult belief in TSLA to win.. otherwise heart attack.

TSLA for TESLA 3

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[Potato_Wedges]

elon may has the last laugh.
dun forget this is just a car company for NOW.
you are buying a dream, his dream.

 

[fzhfzh]

California is going bankrupt....if Gavin newsome continues his support for Burn Loot Murder, once fed funds get cut off.....where is california gonna dig out the money to keep funding?

Fire was caused by State government mismanagement....never clear out the dead trees...even reported in NYTimes. Dont get memory holed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/19/us/california-today-100-million-dead-trees-prompt-fears-of-giant-wildfires.html

As much as I don’t like the socialist leaning California government, it’s fake news to imply California depends on federal funding. California actually contributes a lot more towards federal taxes than what it gets in return from federal funding. So if you cut off federal funding and California stops paying federal taxes California ends up richer. California is also having some of the biggest budget surpluses in recent years btw, which means more money than it knows what to do with so far from being bankrupt.

 

[bakuten]

As much as I don’t like the socialist leaning California government, it’s fake news to imply California depends on federal funding. California actually contributes a lot more towards federal taxes than what it gets in return from federal funding. So if you cut off federal funding and California stops paying federal taxes California ends up richer. California is also having some of the biggest budget surpluses in recent years btw, which means more money than it knows what to do with so far from being bankrupt.

If that's true. California wont need to tax their residents 10 years after they left the state. And even wanna back-date it to those who have left the state prior to the enactment of that legislation.

And good luck attracting new tax payers who thinking of moving in with that kind of tax laws.

 

[fzhfzh]

If that's true. California wont need to tax their residents 10 years after they left the state. And even wanna back-date it to those who have left the state prior to the enactment of that legislation.

And good luck attracting new tax payers who thinking of moving in with that kind of tax laws.

They don’t need to, it’s just some socialists politicians in California that really hates and jealous of rich people.

 

[bakuten]

They don’t need to, it’s just some socialists politicians in California that really hates and jealous of rich people.

Yeah....and they are leaving in droves. Bringing their tax revenue with them.

Therefore that roach motel law is needed.

 

[netzach]

Pre market rebounding already

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[notical]

Pre market rebounding already

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Scully pre-market up, open market down

I anticipate it dropping to below 300

 

[shuvit]

250

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[netzach]

Hard to say lol. These days it’s crazy volatility.

Scully pre-market up, open market down

I anticipate it dropping to below 300

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[Hua_Hui]

Rebound liao. There goes my tp of 300

 

[patryn33]

A lot of Americans I think.

Latin American and Cuban too