The Spectacles Thread. - Part 2

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Hi , base on following, what is your advise which lenses to get? Essilor or Kodak ? Thanks.
Right : SPH -125 CYL -150 AXIS 92
Left. : SPH -25 CYL -100 AXIS 90

If going for Brand: Essilor
Comfort/value for money: Neither

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Hi anyone know, how much is the cost to make a spectacles?
new to this please recommend what i should look out for?

my right eye got some double vision but my left eye is ok.
 
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Hi anyone know, how much is the cost to make a spectacles?
new to this please recommend what i should look out for?

my right eye got some double vision but my left eye is ok.

double vision as in $1 coin see as 2 x $1 coin? If that's the case, you might want to visit a doctor 1st 🤔
 

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I am going on 43. I've tried progressives before and it was supposedly some kind of digital lens, but I couldn't get used to it and gave up, but my lao hua seems to be getting bad enough that single vision doesn't cut it.

Worst sph is ~ -3.0 and cyl -2.0 from 1 year ago eye test. It might have changed, but... This degree is usually ok for 1.5 or 1.56 right?

Would like photochromic lens. Strong blue light blocking light asahi or lutina sounds nice, but it doesnt seem to come together with photochromic lens except for very expensive option? So I'm thinking of maybe getting one pair that is photochromic for distance to near... And maybe in future add an office lens with the blue blocking feature.

Because I had problems adapting to progressives in the past, I think I would either need higher grade progressives or someone who is skilled in progressives to fit me out properly. Any suggestions towards the East? If there is someone good and can offer discount off rrp, I'll go anywhere in SG to find you too, please feel free to pm me ��

Budget... Is $750 incl frame (not fussy on brand, buy need it light comfy and durable) reasonable? Do the expensive brands offer better performance and (some) good value? Is there any objective way to compare between the different grades from same manufacturer or to the brands like Hoya mystyle and id? After all, those pictures with the blur parts are just artists depiction. Or if there is no objective way, does the optical community have some sort of subjective consensus?

Lastly, I was told that progressive lenses require an optometrist to do an eye check / refraction. Is that true, or can opticians do it?

Got many questions... Many thanks for your advice.
 
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I am going on 43. I've tried progressives before and it was supposedly some kind of digital lens, but I couldn't get used to it and gave up, but my lao hua seems to be getting bad enough that single vision doesn't cut it.

Worst sph is ~ -3.0 and cyl -2.0 from 1 year ago eye test. It might have changed, but... This degree is usually ok for 1.5 or 1.56 right?

Would like photochromic lens. Strong blue light blocking light asahi or lutina sounds nice, but it doesnt seem to come together with photochromic lens except for very expensive option? So I'm thinking of maybe getting one pair that is photochromic for distance to near... And maybe in future add an office lens with the blue blocking feature.

Because I had problems adapting to progressives in the past, I think I would either need higher grade progressives or someone who is skilled in progressives to fit me out properly. Any suggestions towards the East? If there is someone good and can offer discount off rrp, I'll go anywhere in SG to find you too, please feel free to pm me ******************

Budget... Is $750 incl frame (not fussy on brand, buy need it light comfy and durable) reasonable? Do the expensive brands offer better performance and (some) good value? Is there any objective way to compare between the different grades from same manufacturer or to the brands like Hoya mystyle and id? After all, those pictures with the blur parts are just artists depiction. Or if there is no objective way, does the optical community have some sort of subjective consensus?

Lastly, I was told that progressive lenses require an optometrist to do an eye check / refraction. Is that true, or can opticians do it?

Got many questions... Many thanks for your advice.

Good Evening,

1)Depending on your frame size, either 1.5 or 1.6 would suffice.(1.6 prolly gonna blow your budget as you are looking towards transition+progressives)
2)Right now in the market, look for KODAK EVOBLUE, blue light absorb+transition progressive.(will cfm it tomorrow)(edit)
3)There are different tiers for the KODAK EVOBLUE lenses thus the optical retailer selling them might be able to tell you more.
4)ID and Mystyle are top of the range, I have 0 return rate for Mystyle lenses for myself in the past 3 years. But those lenses are really costly, at least 1k and thats not including transitions. Hoya lenses gives BlueControl FREE if you purchase it with transitions. Just know that if you do blue light+Transition the cost is surely higher and your frame have to price down to about 100-150(to be safe).(i wont comment on other lens brands but it's based on customer feedback).
5)Not true, optometrist and opticians both are able to Perform refraction/eye test for you.

Cheers and hope you can find a retailer near you.( i will ask around for you meanwhile).
 
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Good Evening,

1)Depending on your frame size, either 1.5 or 1.6 would suffice.(1.6 prolly gonna blow your budget as you are looking towards transition+progressives)
2)Right now in the market, look for KODAK EVOBLUE, blue light absorb+transition progressive.(will cfm it tomorrow)(edit)
3)There are different tiers for the KODAK EVOBLUE lenses thus the optical retailer selling them might be able to tell you more.
4)ID and Mystyle are top of the range, I have 0 return rate for Mystyle lenses for myself in the past 3 years. But those lenses are really costly, at least 1k and thats not including transitions. Hoya lenses gives BlueControl FREE if you purchase it with transitions. Just know that if you do blue light+Transition the cost is surely higher and your frame have to price down to about 100-150(to be safe).(i wont comment on other lens brands but it's based on customer feedback).
5)Not true, optometrist and opticians both are able to Perform refraction/eye test for you.

Cheers and hope you can find a retailer near you.( i will ask around for you meanwhile).

Thanks Gangsterkia.

So does Kodak have a progressive + photochromic + blue light blocking (not just a coating that reduces it a bit) option? That sounds promising - hope to hear more tomorrow.

Yeah, Hoya ID and Mystyle are likely outside of my price range.. But I guess the real question here is whether there is a way to objectively compare progressive lens? The pictures depicting the corridor for intermediate and near vision are probably exaggerated. At least within the same brand, higher grades are presumably better. Across brands, is there a way to compare? If there's no way to compare, I don't know how to select which brand/grade.

I don't need the transitions brand. Have tried some generic photochromic lens in the past, and I think having some darkening is enough to keep me from squinting in bright sunlight.

My colleague advised that skill is important as he went made a few pairs at different shops until ending up with one that is still relatively comfortable. And ya, my internet research suggests it is a black art where the face shape, how I wear the glasses, distance from face and nose pad positioning etc all play a part. So if it really is a black art, I have this mental model that getting the fitting and measurements taken by experienced and skilled pro is really the most important thing and I'll have to travel for it lor.

Thank you!
 
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Thanks Gangsterkia.

So does Kodak have a progressive + photochromic + blue light blocking (not just a coating that reduces it a bit) option? That sounds promising - hope to hear more tomorrow.

Yeah, Hoya ID and Mystyle are likely outside of my price range.. But I guess the real question here is whether there is a way to objectively compare progressive lens? The pictures depicting the corridor for intermediate and near vision are probably exaggerated. At least within the same brand, higher grades are presumably better. Across brands, is there a way to compare? If there's no way to compare, I don't know how to select which brand/grade.

I don't need the transitions brand. Have tried some generic photochromic lens in the past, and I think having some darkening is enough to keep me from squinting in bright sunlight.

My colleague advised that skill is important as he went made a few pairs at different shops until ending up with one that is still relatively comfortable. And ya, my internet research suggests it is a black art where the face shape, how I wear the glasses, distance from face and nose pad positioning etc all play a part. So if it really is a black art, I have this mental model that getting the fitting and measurements taken by experienced and skilled pro is really the most important thing and I'll have to travel for it lor.

Thank you!

Hi bro!

We specialise in progressive lens troubleshooting.

We have 1st timers who are afraid to go on progressive lenses sign up to understand more about their eyes and progressive lenses too.

Non-obligatory 1 hr session, we check on the following:
  • Assessment of all your previous spectacles, to determine cause of discomfort.
  • Refraction (Distance, Intermediate, Reading)
  • Strabismus check (Phoria/tropia)
  • Ocular Motility Assessment

If you decide to go for progressive lenses with us, we do have progressive lenses of similar performance to Zeiss @ close to half the price.
 
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Thanks Gangsterkia.

So does Kodak have a progressive + photochromic + blue light blocking (not just a coating that reduces it a bit) option? That sounds promising - hope to hear more tomorrow.

Yeah, Hoya ID and Mystyle are likely outside of my price range.. But I guess the real question here is whether there is a way to objectively compare progressive lens? The pictures depicting the corridor for intermediate and near vision are probably exaggerated. At least within the same brand, higher grades are presumably better. Across brands, is there a way to compare? If there's no way to compare, I don't know how to select which brand/grade.

I don't need the transitions brand. Have tried some generic photochromic lens in the past, and I think having some darkening is enough to keep me from squinting in bright sunlight.

My colleague advised that skill is important as he went made a few pairs at different shops until ending up with one that is still relatively comfortable. And ya, my internet research suggests it is a black art where the face shape, how I wear the glasses, distance from face and nose pad positioning etc all play a part. So if it really is a black art, I have this mental model that getting the fitting and measurements taken by experienced and skilled pro is really the most important thing and I'll have to travel for it lor.

Thank you!

Ok, checked and Confirmed by my own eyes.
Yes, the coating is call EVOBLUE. Blue light(absorb) filter just like lutina,asahi,Shamir. Only will have updates on monday(on progressives availability).
BUT, only for single vision right now. For progressives not able to do yet.

Then, the amount of distortion you see at the sides is affected by your reading power(lao hua). The higher the reading power, the more distortion you will experience.

It is hard to compare between brands as it's based on individual preference. Thus it's still up to your trust in the practitioner that is helping you to recommend you a pair of lenses that you will be comfortable with.
 

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Ok, checked and Confirmed by my own eyes.
Yes, the coating is call EVOBLUE. Blue light(absorb) filter just like lutina,asahi,Shamir. Only will have updates on monday(on progressives availability).
BUT, only for single vision right now. For progressives not able to do yet.

Thanks bro. So this is not possible in kodak's progressives?
 

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Can recommend lens for home use, block out blue ray light, deg - 500?
Budget below $100
 

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Kodak blue lens 1.6 hw much is it in SG vs JB?
Should i consider Crizal?
Am planning to reduce use of contacts lens
 

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How's Varilux X progressive compares with other brands? I'm considering it as Hoya same tier seems more costly.
 

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They are really comparable to the other lens of similar tier. You can consider trying it honestly.

How's Varilux X progressive compares with other brands? I'm considering it as Hoya same tier seems more costly.
 

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For someone who is facing the computer/phone screen alot, is the anti-blue light lens useful?

Or it is just a marketing gimmick
 

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If going for Brand: Essilor
Comfort/value for money: Neither

🤭We don't like selling branded when there are better lenses around

U sell lenses? Can advise whether crizal prevencia, zeiss blue protect or kodak uv blue best? Don't want yellow tint.
 
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