The Spectacles Thread. - Part 2

[oldbreadstinks]

Typical optician standard answer. How can specs not washed with detergent. Oils simply wont come off la REAL COMMON SENSE, whether have it or not.
Try use microfiber cloth clean yur dishes with plain water without soap leh see clean or not.

Just use dettol liquid handsoap or just those watson handsoap just as good to clean off the oils. Just rinsing with water aint gd enuff la. Pls. Oils trap on the surface and u are just seirling the layer of oil in circles when u wipe.

If You are really wearing Duravision now
It came with a piece of Zeiss microfiber

When the cloth is clean

If you don't feel confident use your fingers to leave some prints

If you are feeling confident rub it over your nose

Then clean the oil off with the said microfiber cloth

 

[ahboy82]

Wat are some of the lighter plastic frames out there? Those geek geek type one

 

[oldbreadstinks]

Wat are some of the lighter plastic frames out there? Those geek geek type one

Owndays-esque ultem-frames

Before owndays these frames were not appreciated
Nowadays everyone is ordering ultem/ TR material frames

 

[ahboy82]

Owndays-esque ultem-frames

Before owndays these frames were not appreciated
Nowadays everyone is ordering ultem/ TR material frames

I dun like them

Gt any reputable brands to intro

 

[oldbreadstinks]

I dun like them

Gt any reputable brands to intro

Price quality service they're the best leh.. When it's averaged out
I was shown some charmant frames recently. They're starting to use ultem/ TR. I supposed most other brands around the same pricing are using the same material?

Because you asked for light.. Hard to be lighter than ultem/ TR

Brand wise I supposed certain designs from Paul frank are not heavy. And they are really popular and has this "cartoon look" that's popular among the younger crowd . More arty farty geeky than nerdy.

But make sure the "Asian fit" plastic frames comes with Asian fit that is suitable for your nose shape? Some of them are pokey sharp. More for those with fine boned noses.

 

[jervin88]

Typical optician standard answer. How can specs not washed with detergent. Oils simply wont come off la REAL COMMON SENSE, whether have it or not.
Try use microfiber cloth clean yur dishes with plain water without soap leh see clean or not.

Just use dettol liquid handsoap or just those watson handsoap just as good to clean off the oils. Just rinsing with water aint gd enuff la. Pls. Oils trap on the surface and u are just seirling the layer of oil in circles when u wipe.

any soap will tend to damaged the lens coating overtime. just try with water and your cloth.

 

[kornilius]

hey all, anybody bought from designerframesoutlet before? they have both a web store and sell through ebay as well.
are they reliable and is what they sell genuine?
am interested in a pair of tumi specs but can't seem to find any shop in singapore that carries. would much prefer to try out in store before buying...

many thanks!

 

[oldbreadstinks]

hey all, anybody bought from designerframesoutlet before? they have both a web store and sell through ebay as well.
are they reliable and is what they sell genuine?
am interested in a pair of tumi specs but can't seem to find any shop in singapore that carries. would much prefer to try out in store before buying...

many thanks!

Nope... But that's probably why

It's risky to carry such brands these days.
Most are buying online these days.

Especially Oakley's and RayBans. A lot of kids trying then say.. Online cheaper. Sends a rippling effect. Kills off most other brand's chances of being in a brick and Motar shop if it's not going to sell.
Not familiar with the name. Do they have a local address?

 

[jervin88]

hey all, anybody bought from designerframesoutlet before? they have both a web store and sell through ebay as well.
are they reliable and is what they sell genuine?
am interested in a pair of tumi specs but can't seem to find any shop in singapore that carries. would much prefer to try out in store before buying...

many thanks!

Tumi is a rather older brand. great design with Tumi's halfframes and frameless eyewear. you gotta look harder hahaha, difficult to find.

 

[kornilius]

Nope... But that's probably why

It's risky to carry such brands these days.
Most are buying online these days.

Especially Oakley's and RayBans. A lot of kids trying then say.. Online cheaper. Sends a rippling effect. Kills off most other brand's chances of being in a brick and Motar shop if it's not going to sell.
Not familiar with the name. Do they have a local address?

i think with specs, the effect is not as "devastating" as clothing. U actually have to try it on to see if it suits u, get your eyes tested, get a prescription etc etc.. the whole nine yards u get what i mean? and what i meant is not that i intend to go there try it on and buy online, what i meant was i want to try it on first before buying. Tumi is a household brand, they have nice bags and i happen to carry one

 

[jervin88]

Bro goojeeee pls go back to your current shop and do the servicing there. Hahahah

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[oldbreadstinks]

i think with specs, the effect is not as "devastating" as clothing. U actually have to try it on to see if it suits u, get your eyes tested, get a prescription etc etc.. the whole nine yards u get what i mean? and what i meant is not that i intend to go there try it on and buy online, what i meant was i want to try it on first before buying. Tumi is a household brand, they have nice bags and i happen to carry one

It's bad enough. Heard from a friend from 30 pieces a month they've dropped to 5 . Yet inventory must increase ,costs went up

If that's a popular brand like Oakley's... Imagine how they view tumi. You have to really like tumi personally to carry it.

 

[kaikoura]

Really dont knoe eats wrong with edgers nowadays. Either the lenses are inaccurate axis/PD else got scratches or lens aligned crooked. So many problems and yet lens px are getting higher each year. Its tough living in this generation. I think being born in the 60s are better when businessmen are more honest and have integrity.

Edging lenses is as much as an art as it is a science. There is an acceptable range of how much the power, axis, and PD can deviate.

For instance, if a person's prescription is -2.00/-2.00x180, then a final product of -1.91/-2.07x178 is acceptable.

This is because when your refractionist checks your eyes, the power is given in 0.25 steps. This means your eyes could be -1.89 in reality but the refractionist can give you -1.75 with a VA of 6/6 or -2.00 with a VA of 6/6+2.

So if the refractionist orders lenses for -1.75 and the final product is -1.63, it could be rejected, but if the final product is -1.87, it will be accepted.


With regards to prices, if you come from the Dunhill frames era, you will know that spectacles are getting cheaper to own - not by the number but by purchasing power. When you realise the technology and research that goes into the lenses, and the entire manufacturing and logistics chain, you will be surprised at how inexpensive some lenses actually are (does not apply to all).


Purchasing Power:

You used to earn $500 and spectacles costs $50

VS

You now earn $5000 and spectacles cost $150

I NEVER TAKE IT FOR GRANTED THESE DAYS. IF MY LENSES ARE DONE PROPERLY NO SCRATCHES NO BLUR NO SLANTING I WILL CONSIDER MYSELF LIKE STRIKING 4D ALREADY. U KNOW THE CHANCES OF WINNING 4D.

Have you gone back to the shop to get an idea of why you see blur, and have scratches and "slanting"?

Inability to see clearly can be due to various reasons - some are vision threatening, some can be due to old age and degeneration, so it may not be the issue of the spectacles being done improperly.

If the scratches are visible to a normal naked eye, then ask the shop about it.

Random fact: If you look at the lenses under a microscope, they are all scratched.

R U SURE LENS ARE CHEAPER NOW?!!!

I only see lens px increased just recently, im not happy thats why switched to cheaper alternative.

As above.

if you talk to me the way you do here in person, i wouldn't want your business . I've seen how a shop in orchard tactfully let a customer know indirectly they don't want her business despite her purchases being 1k

 

[kaikoura]

When I used to work in orchard we even got cards and hamper to apologize for serious cases when Px was really pissed...

Got NTUC voucher?

 

[kaikoura]

those who say it's going up are almost always getting carroted

I've seen someone who was sold a pair of branded lenses at twice the RRP.

I think it goes two ways; upset the cook and you get extra ingredients in your food.

 

[kaikoura]

Wa too many pages, Need advice from kor kor and jie jie here, I have $400 budget, can get a branded spec frame like prada/gucci with transition lens? Which shop is the best to buy from ar?

Possibly, but look out for the discounts / clear stock / old stock. Your power cannot be too high as well, so as to stay within the power range of the stock transitions lenses. (If your power is out of the range, the lenses are 'specially made' and thus more expensive).

How can an optician's engrand be better than engineer?

Chiu bruff Moi roh

Wah chiu talk liddat how I understand?

If You are really wearing Duravision now
It came with a piece of Zeiss microfiber

When the cloth is clean

If you don't feel confident use your fingers to leave some prints

If you are feeling confident rub it over your nose

Then clean the oil off with the said microfiber cloth

I pour cooking oil and stir fry vegetables then clean with microfibre cloth, eh sai bo?

 

[Seannie]

No need to test at another shop.
-3.00cyl will look blur when axis is out by 5
You can request for a change on the spot
The fact that you need to go verify at another shop is sad enough... You should just tell the optician straight away there's a warranty fOr the lenses
Eh.... Most of my customers would tell me off for nosepads misalignment... No need to wait for lens to misaligned
I dunno whether you're really that suay or you're bluffing me
Assuming it really happened. The shop in question is supposed to change and rectify everything Foc. When I used to work in orchard we even got cards and hamper to apologize for serious cases when Px was really pissed...

Nosepads misalignments are small matters becos frames with metal nosepad arms usually will be misaligned no matter wat, and anyway our noses are crooked anywhere. If you had customers like that pissed off those are really sick ple who dont understand.

But honestly how many shops are willing to admit their lenses PD or axis is off? Most if not all of them will just try to cover up if they can becos frankly hey know that customers have no way of testing the accuracies of lenses except seeking advices from other shops. They will give excuses or just tell you to GET USED to them. Ofcos its sad, even hearbreaking at times. But most opticuans dont really care. Sad truths.

 

[Seannie]

I've seen someone who was sold a pair of branded lenses at twice the RRP.

I think it goes two ways; upset the cook and you get extra ingredients in your food.

Those are the customers who do not know stuff. There are always the catalogue book for branded lenses. For example ask for Zeiss catalogue book. NOT THEIR IN HOUSE BOOK. How to chop carrot this way? My grievance is not on the optical shop but on the lens supplier. Lens of similar brand similar design index are getting more ex for no justifiable reason. The reason optician can tell me is that they havent revise their px lists for a long time.

 

[kaikoura]

Those are the customers who do not know stuff. There are always the catalogue book for branded lenses. For example ask for Zeiss catalogue book. NOT THEIR IN HOUSE BOOK. How to chop carrot this way? My grievance is not on the optical shop but on the lens supplier. Lens of similar brand similar design index are getting more ex for no justifiable reason. The reason optician can tell me is that they havent revise their px lists for a long time.

Yes, there are people who do not know stuff.

And there are people who piss off the sales staff.

And there is always soft copy and photo-editing software.



More marketing, higher costs. Besides, most large companies have to answer to their shareholders, hence the need to drive up profits as much as possible.

Then there is legislation which affects both the suppliers and retailers. Which I will gladly elaborate if you want to know more.

 

[kaikoura]

But honestly how many shops are willing to admit their lenses PD or axis is off? Most if not all of them will just try to cover up if they can becos frankly hey know that customers have no way of testing the accuracies of lenses except seeking advices from other shops. They will give excuses or just tell you to GET USED to them. Ofcos its sad, even hearbreaking at times. But most opticuans dont really care. Sad truths.

I don't know about the cover-up part, oldbreadstinks may be able to shed more light on that. In any case, I think a good shop would check in the first place before dispensing the spectacles, thus realising the mistake and being able to correct it before giving it to the potential wearer.

The testing-of-accuracy is usually unnecessary though, and can lead to a psychological bias which makes the wearer unhappy instead. If it's clear and comfortable, leave it. I have seen cases where the patient cited discomfort, then was resolved without any power or PD changes by simply giving it back to them a few days later - they probably had the impression that their eyes were sensitive and so they will never be able to wear a spectacles without the power being adjusted at least once.

In addition, every refractionist has their own way of adjusting the final power, which depends on various factors like the angle of the lens, distance between the lens and the eye, what visual tasks you perform with the spectacles on, what is your previous power, how sensitive you are to power changes, and so on.

Like I've mentioned in an earlier post, your real eye power could be -1.86, the final prescription -1.75, and the actual lens power -1.81.

Or, your real PD is 62mm but due to frame curvature the PD is set to be 63mm, and the actual PD 64mm due to deviation (within acceptable range still). In most cases the prismatic effect induced isn't likely to cause any major issues, i.e. most people are not likely to feel any discomfort.

So, instead of bothering about numbers, find a practitioner or shop that you trust, and accept them with lots of wholesome love.

If nothing local satisfies you, then you can ask me for recommendations over in the other side of the globe.