The Spectacles Thread. - Part 2

[Seannie]

I think the best way to save $ is throw away my digital device now. Just use SV until i got lao hua cant see computer already then jump straight to progressive.

 

[thegardens3b]

How do we find honest optician? Or even know they are honest? How many of us actually go inside the shop and ask about their optician instead of "do you have this [brand] and/or how much is this [brand] frames/lens with this specs. I think we spend more time searching and bargaining than to ask how qualified is their optician.

Thus, do we look at specs shops as:
1) like a doctor (I.e., the optician) and trust he will give you the right medication to treat you (correct lens) or

2) like a IT show shop where we find bargain and scout for the lowest price for what we want.

Disclaimer, just a discussion ya. I am very sure they are plenty of good, honest, qualified, professional and hard working optician and shops around.

Just that how do we as consumer decide, other than from word of mouth / regulars / etc. Most reputable shops I guess are safe, but we will never know if the lens may be defective but still "forced" to accept it cus we don't know how to check for defects. Of course those not so reputable/not well known have to compete to survive and offer better discounts than reputable shops.

Trust.
You think the shop only wants to do business with you on one occasion? For me, trust is very important. If you don't trust my testing, price and quality of the products, you are free to go somewhere else. Anyone can play with the price just to close a sale, but time will tell. Especially when you need after services/trouble shooting etc. If word of mouth and experiencing the service for yourself can't make you trust them.. it means no matter what the shop do or what people say, you will still have a slight amount of distrust..
If the glasses works well for you, the staff make you feel comfortable and you have no problems with your vision for the next 1.5- 2 years, I'd say the glasses are good. Who cares about the 1% defect that doesn't affect you or your vision?
Have a good weekend all!

 

[GANGSTERKIA]

If you close to are 40... cfm is got laohua alr. Just a matter of how much..

Don’t throw and give me can? Lol

I think the best way to save $ is throw away my digital device now. Just use SV until i got lao hua cant see computer already then jump straight to progressive.

 

[Seannie]

If you close to are 40... cfm is got laohua alr. Just a matter of how much..

Don’t throw and give me can? Lol

Over 40 already. Still can see near. I think SV can last me until at least 45yrs old.

 

[ralliart12]

They work similarly albeit sync 3 not being fully customised.
Helping you save money at the same time getting similar efficacy man...

Sync 3 no DAL.

 

[skull1977]

Trust.

Fair enough and I can't argue against it. Risk and trust. If things comes out bad, then just take it as bad luck / learning lessons (which can be pricey).

But I am still curious about the equipment used in testing. How important are those as a factor in choosing a shop to buy from. Does better or latest equipment means higher accuracy or measurement or details as opposed to older equipment. If yes, how much better or is it negligible? Also, do those equipment get/need software updates (like our phones that gets so many updates) or maintenance or calibrations.

Just would hope to understand this factor and not finding fault with/looking down at shops that dont have the latest tools and such.

 

[shin01chan]

Need some advice here. Lao hua getting worse. Time for progressive. Currently using eyezen.

Understand that not everyone will get use to progressive. For first time progressive user, is it advisable to get cheaper in-house brand in case not use to it, or pay for those expensive brand so that it is easier to adapt.

 

[GANGSTERKIA]

Yes sync 3 no DAL. I mentioned that in the earlier post.
DAL is honestly not a MUST for your lenses. Normal lenses are still fine. Some of us have higher expectation for lenses thus needs premium for them.

Normal lenses (spherical/aspheric) is really good enough.

Sync 3 no DAL.

 

[GANGSTERKIA]

Need some advice here. Lao hua getting worse. Time for progressive. Currently using eyezen.

Understand that not everyone will get use to progressive. For first time progressive user, is it advisable to get cheaper in-house brand in case not use to it, or pay for those expensive brand so that it is easier to adapt.

Cheaper inhouse brand usually have larger peripheral distortion. It might give you the wrong impression that progressives are uncomfortable. I recommend starting with ***Promo now , Hoya dynamic summit free upgrade to dynamic premium OR Zeiss precision pure upgrade to precision plus(free upgrade).
These lenses at least are better and more comfortable for your reading and distance.

 

[Seannie]

Fair enough and I can't argue against it. Risk and trust. If things comes out bad, then just take it as bad luck / learning lessons (which can be pricey).

But I am still curious about the equipment used in testing. How important are those as a factor in choosing a shop to buy from. Does better or latest equipment means higher accuracy or measurement or details as opposed to older equipment. If yes, how much better or is it negligible? Also, do those equipment get/need software updates (like our phones that gets so many updates) or maintenance or calibrations.

Just would hope to understand this factor and not finding fault with/looking down at shops that dont have the latest tools and such.

Equipment expensive ah. Buy one machine hundred of thousand of dollars. Ofcos latest equipment means can take more measurements and more accurate end results. But whether must buy or can loan the testing equipment im not too sure, must ask the bosses here. Whether the brand will take back old machines to upgrade new machines at no cost or not i also not sure. But these equipment companies cant be making losses right? Maybe need you sell a certain quota of their lenses? Else why some shops like to push for certain brands?

Yalor ofcos its about risk. And surely not just risk of only 1% deviation error lor. Can be in the range of 5-10%. Eg. the optician never measure properly your PD or due to inexperience, off by 2-3mm also can cause discomfort. For high astig patients, off axis by more than 5 also makes quite a difference in vision.

 

[Seannie]

My usual optician told me he dont have smartlife lens, made me think is it because he dont have the latest testing equipment to take the neasurements required. And why zeiss made it exclusive for selected stores to sell only?

 

[Seannie]

Also, do those equipment get/need software updates (like our phones that gets so many updates) or maintenance or calibrations.

Just would hope to understand this factor and not finding fault with/looking down at shops that dont have the latest tools and such.

I feel that lenses are like tv like that. Upgrade to more expensive tv means clearer, sharper, higher definition, better contrast etc. See already more shiok. Ofcos older tv still can watch not say screen cannot watch clearly, just that lower quality lor...

 

[GANGSTERKIA]

My usual optician told me he dont have smartlife lens, made me think is it because he dont have the latest testing equipment to take the neasurements required. And why zeiss made it exclusive for selected stores to sell only?

As i said before, SmartLife isint exactly a new product. He doenst want to bring in smartlife probably because of some reasons only we know not the consumer. Doenst mean he dont have means no latest equipment. Change our mindset abit, dont have doesnt mean old fasion.

This new place i am going got smartlife but no Optical Coherence Tomography. does this means my workplace is considered latest? No.

Exclusive also because of reasons only trade people will know. Not because They want to purposely select those ''chosen ones''.

 

[GANGSTERKIA]

I feel that lenses are like tv like that. Upgrade to more expensive tv means clearer, sharper, higher definition, better contrast etc. See already more shiok. Ofcos older tv still can watch not say screen cannot watch clearly, just that lower quality lor...

That is why better lenses cost more. If you want the majority of the world, you have to pay for it. Cnt compare Premier league team to Sleague team. Premier league tickets so expensive, sleague less than 50 dollars. Quality of the matches is different, Thus you pay for what you get. Cheaper doesnt always means better when it comes to progressive lenses.

 

[Maverick11]

Does anyone here faces the problem with progressive lenses where near/intermediate vision is ok, but distant vision is very very bad?

 

[GANGSTERKIA]

It’s confirmed progressives and not office lens right?

Does anyone here faces the problem with progressive lenses where near/intermediate vision is ok, but distant vision is very very bad?

 

[Maverick11]

It’s confirmed progressives and not office lens right?

Confirmed! Sigh.....

 

[shin01chan]

What is the brand?

Confirmed! Sigh.....

 

[Maverick11]

What is the brand?

Umm, I dun think it has anything got to do with brand. Anyway, it’s a premium brand.

 

[onizuka3]

Why so expensive one hahaha. Silhouettes not that expensive unless you were shown the pricey series. The normal ones around 400ish.

which is why I looking for alternative opticians ...

how about your side?

I will check it out for you later
Or if user eyezone is here, he/she can let you know.

Thanks