The Spectacles Thread.

[Seannie]

biggest factory of hoya in thailand.. sometimes they tell me certain lens they sell need to ship in from malaysia.. i wonder why.. zz

oh, becos fm what i heard from a retailer in malaysia, they have local (in msia) lens as well as overseas (maybe thailand since it is the nearest in this region & the HQ)? The person told me that for stock lens will be from local whereas for RX custom made lenses will be from overseas.

According to Hoya website info, they seem to have factories in vietnam, china & hungary too. So im not too sure where the actual source will be. I think singapore has hoya factory too but i dont know whether they produce lens or not or just distribution.

I've just made a specs in msia in jan & still waiting for the hoya lens from thailand. The retailer told me that due to the flooding last year, their factory is slower to produce, as such may have to wait up to one month. wonder whether consumers in sg experiencing the same?

 

[Seannie]

coating difference and quality control of the total precision of the lenses. better brands uses better materuals hence slow down age-ing effect (turning yellow) and minimise distortion. good value quality lenses are hoya imo, u might wanna get nikon seecoat if u can afford the premium..

any idea how long ago has HOYA's sft coating been around in the market? Was it last year?

HOYA's coating is better than the rest? What do you mean by "quality control of the total precision of the lenses"?

 

[Seannie]

hmm..quite challenging to find suitable frames..

yes, you are right, I have taken more than 3 years & spent alot of $ just to experiment & find the good brand & lenses.

 

[Seannie]

Have been using urband for quite a while. I switch brands here and there. It is One of the better ones around and suit alot of people apart from there leather temple collection.

I am selling off a brand new pair. If anyone wants more info, pls PM me.

Do you have any idea when this Urband has been around? i've only known of its existence a few months ago.

In your opinion & experience, what are the other better brands ard?

 

[KTVFanatic]

yes, you are right, I have taken more than 3 years & spent alot of $ just to experiment & find the good brand & lenses.

going to make specs in JB soon..can advise e on good brand and lenses? btw my degree is abt 250 with astig 75. Thanks

 

[xiaokaka]

im currently working at a spectacle shop and sometimes HoYa lens do have more delays recently. lens considered stock lenses are from their factories and they mass order common lenses to keep stock in Singapore Hq. special lenses, high based curved, high power, high astigmatism, some tinted lenses are from overseas like Malaysia and Thailand.

this is what the hoya lens consultant told us.

I came back to Singapore just 2010 June and I was told thwart sft coating has been around already. how long? I'm not sure. what I know is their quality are pretty good in contrast to their cost.

quality control are quite good also and not much jobs from them are needed to send back to re-do..

 

[xiaokaka]

going to make specs in JB soon..can advise e on good brand and lenses? btw my degree is abt 250 with astig 75. Thanks

u can try hoya 1.53 pheonix or 1.6. spherical or asphercial depends on the shape of your frame.

or nikon seecoat 1.6.

yes u can argue that low power like yours dont need such a high index lens but. thinner lens are lighter, more comfortable, looks better in cosmetics and have higher tensile strength than standard cheaper 1.5 counter parts.

nikon see series only starts from 1.6 , 1.67 and 1.74

 

[Seannie]

oh, so its true that hoya lens are experiencing a delay in their delivery of custom-made lenses.. i made my order on 16jan & till now still waiting.

not much jobs needed to send back to redo? do u mean the workmanship or the prescription of the lenses? So u mean tat if our lenses are from hoya their factories will make sure a good QC job is done & we will not see shoddy work like nylon string not tied firmly into the lens groove etc?

 

[KTVFanatic]

u can try hoya 1.53 pheonix or 1.6. spherical or asphercial depends on the shape of your frame.

or nikon seecoat 1.6.

yes u can argue that low power like yours dont need such a high index lens but. thinner lens are lighter, more comfortable, looks better in cosmetics and have higher tensile strength than standard cheaper 1.5 counter parts.

nikon see series only starts from 1.6 , 1.67 and 1.74

Is it true that Hoya lens as compared to standard cheaper lens are less susceptible to scratches? And what coatings to add on in general? TIA!!

 

[xiaokaka]

normally their lab like hoya, zeiss edge some of their lenses.

sometimes suay suay job go back to sgops, have poor nylon tensions, poor nylon grove, oversized lens, cracked lens, chipped off, too small lens cut or wrong prescription.

some jobs are handed by own company labs like optical 88.
Actually all jobs are needed to be final checked by the shop before sending to customer. when the shop says job delay, the shop is frustrated too. cuz spectacles condition not good enough to dispense to customers

not all staffs in all companies are very "skilled" to have zero errors.


generally, yes. hoya coating sft, zeiss lotutec, nikon see coat, essilor crizal, tokai lenses are tougher den china, korea generic lenses that market sells for like $50-$80.

 

[Seannie]

wah so many problems that cant be avoided, almost impossible to get the perfect specs then. imo they shd lower the selling price to the customers if they cant gaurantee a good job everytime, else we are chopped off so much $ & getting sub-standard products at the end. else don go for too exp specs lest they made a mess of our frames & lenses & cant be fixed. :S

 

[xiaokaka]

wah so many problems that cant be avoided, almost impossible to get the perfect specs then. imo they shd lower the selling price to the customers if they cant gaurantee a good job everytime, else we are chopped off so much $ & getting sub-standard products at the end. else don go for too exp specs lest they made a mess of our frames & lenses & cant be fixed. :S

actually u think too much bro, all the problem can be avoided with years of experience and good quality control from lab and shop.

famous and experienced labs have lesser issues. budget labs have slightly lower QC.

as for high end chain stores, we have certain catergory of standards met before we dispense to customers.

we sonetimes do have issues with certain jobs which needed to be rejected and redo like 5 times. that's why sometimes some jobs delay up to 2 months. but such cases are pretty rare.

some shops sells things which are more expensive but in return, gives very good service and wide range of choices with high quality control. for me as a customer, the higher price paid looks some sort of an insurance. feels like i am being taken care of.

 

[Seannie]

U sure we are being well taken care of, or being well-conned off? QC also depends on the shop staff whom i cant be sure will really check carefully (or even check at all) before handing out to customers?

Hope that by choosing reputated labs & chain stores, we get better product & QC, else i will always be paying a premium for those sub-standard work, which seems to be getting more frequent & serious nowadays.

 

[xiaokaka]

i cant speak on behalf on all retailers out there, but what i know is all the high end chain stores, they take QC very seriously. if customers complains, it looks bad for both sides too.

to big shops, name are much more important than con one person. u can only con once and tarnish ur name. but if u have happy customers spreading ur company name, it helps more than tv advertisments.

 

[JavaTube]

Collected my Oakley Deringer today... feels good..

 

[KTVFanatic]

Collected my Oakley Deringer today... feels good..

wow looking good !!

 

[Seannie]

wow looking good !!

time for u to go make one yourself

 

[greatace]

Collected my Oakley Deringer today... feels good..

May i know how much is this frame? and brought from where? thanks!

 

[Seannie]

if you want to buy specs, pls buy good value quality specs, rather than paying a premium for those supposedly "premium" specs that are of sub-standard quality.

 

[JavaTube]

May i know how much is this frame? and brought from where? thanks!

Check one or two pages before in this same thread.. I've mention its price....Oakley all over Singapore same price.... Price is controlled cos of their comprehensive warranty...