The Spectacles Thread.

[Seannie]

Gian by the japanism le...1k before disc...any review on this brand

japonism not a bad brand lar, but u need to choose one that fits u. If you have a big head u ought to be careful in your selection. If you tok abt branding, its more well-known than Dun, thats why the cost premium. Most designs dont fit me so i have no preference for it, though design looks solid. Craftsmanship also ok. But warn you first, its not that light even though made of titanium. If you are used to tagheuer, you might need to get used to the weight factor. Moreover, it is not that flexible, a bit stiff, but in that sense also makes it more solid. You need to take some give some. Some likes their frames to be more solid. Some likes more flexibility. I like it to be well-balanced.

Aesthetic wise, I have tried on the japonism projection serie. Looks quite swee. Got the Starck look-alike.

 

[noobzpro]

Looking at this model....dun has the same too....thus my dilemma on whether its worth 2x the price.....and also haha my first premium spectacle la....always looked forward to lasik then nvr spend much always those bundled pricing glasses.....now lasik not recommended splurge liao haha

 

[ahhian]

001 is nice

most importantly, try both and decide which suits you more.

Looking at this model....dun has the same too....thus my dilemma on whether its worth 2x the price.....and also haha my first premium spectacle la....always looked forward to lasik then nvr spend much always those bundled pricing glasses.....now lasik not recommended splurge liao haha

 

[Seannie]

Yes, not sellable, or else they'll be all over the place. Something you see with your own eyes and acknowledged here yourself
Yet continue to bitch about.

I'm stating a a fact, agreed by you. YET you go full retard on me because I say you're correct

just for information, now dun can be found in alot of shops liao, even have gone into the neighbourhood, in case you still havent realised it. Free go ard see see. Amk also have. Not just limited to chain stores. Dun used to be quite exclusive. Not sellable doesnt mean they must be all over the place right? U understand the meaning of exclusivity? Just like Chanel?

Now Dun still exclusive so u dont see them everywhere. Just like 999.9 japonism all these are exclusive brands. 999.9 is very strict with their criteria. They look at your shop layout, location etc before deciding to let you sell their frames or not. They used to let Capitol Optical carry but not now anymore.

 

[lostsoulz]

any idea how much does Hoya SFT, bi-as, transistion, 1.67 roughly cost?

 

[jericho75]

Can anyone help me on this?

I just got myself a pair of 58mm ray ban aviator. Adjusted the nose pads and it fits OK. However, I kept on having the weird feeling that the glasses are sliding abit down on my nose area. Went to check out in front of the mirror and they seems ok. This pair of aviator comes with real glass lenses so they are slightly heavier.

I do not feel something like that while wearing my wayfarer which has a thicker arm. Does the thin arms on the aviator makes the glasses feels this way? Thanks.

 

[Imperado]

No difference for computer, although the lens is naturally slightly yellow

Some may feel that's helpful.

Try polarized sunglasses?

I would thought transition is the brighter the surrounding the glasses will turn black? Why yellow?

Polarized sunglasses is already "black" in natural le is it? Is it able to come with myopia and astig?

Thanks for e reply!

 

[Seannie]

Can anyone help me on this?

I just got myself a pair of 58mm ray ban aviator. Adjusted the nose pads and it fits OK. However, I kept on having the weird feeling that the glasses are sliding abit down on my nose area. Went to check out in front of the mirror and they seems ok. This pair of aviator comes with real glass lenses so they are slightly heavier.

I do not feel something like that while wearing my wayfarer which has a thicker arm. Does the thin arms on the aviator makes the glasses feels this way? Thanks.

Firstly, heavier specs will definitely slide more cant be helped. If they really bothered you, can get the nosepad distance adjusted closer together, however bearing in mind that that will make your frame sit higher on your nose and may not provide the maximum comfort as it might keep poking on your nose, so must adjust carefully if there really is a need to.

Secondly, thicker arms will naturally provide better grip as the contact area becomes larger. Usually if lenses are heavy you try not to use arms that are too thin.

Last resort is to bend the temple arms at right angles to leverage on the hook on your ears. But that may not be comfy on your ears. In future try for a better fit before buying la.

 

[jericho75]

Firstly, heavier specs will definitely slide more cant be helped. If they really bothered you, can get the nosepad distance adjusted closer together, however bearing in mind that that will make your frame sit higher on your nose and may not provide the maximum comfort as it might keep poking on your nose, so must adjust carefully if there really is a need to.

Secondly, thicker arms will naturally provide better grip as the contact area becomes larger. Usually if lenses are heavy you try not to use arms that are too thin.

Last resort is to bend the temple arms at right angles to leverage on the hook on your ears. But that may not be comfy on your ears. In future try for a better fit before buying la.

Noted and thanks for the advice.

 

[oldbreadstinks]

I would thought transition is the brighter the surrounding the glasses will turn black? Why yellow?

Polarized sunglasses is already "black" in natural le is it? Is it able to come with myopia and astig?

Thanks for e reply!

It's actually ultra violet rays that causes it to change color. So if you're in a car with uv screen your lenses won't change colour no matter how much light there is.

On the other hand, if your monitor is making your transitions lenses change colour, I suggest you change your monitor.

Yes they're naturally grey, retails generally +/- $250 comes with different index some mirror tinted, and with back surface multicoat
Myopia and astigmatism prescription.

 

[oldbreadstinks]

just for information, now dun can be found in alot of shops liao, even have gone into the neighbourhood, in case you still havent realised it. Free go ard see see. Amk also have. Not just limited to chain stores. Dun used to be quite exclusive. Not sellable doesnt mean they must be all over the place right? U understand the meaning of exclusivity? Just like Chanel?

Now Dun still exclusive so u dont see them everywhere. Just like 999.9 japonism all these are exclusive brands. 999.9 is very strict with their criteria. They look at your shop layout, location etc before deciding to let you sell their frames or not. They used to let Capitol Optical carry but not now anymore.

Used to let? Capitol Optical
How about Capitol not being interested because it doesn't sell? Let me guess, the fact that I'm more familiar with Capitol isn't going to deter you from using them a reason.
Capitol focus on brands that sell, dun, despite all the wonderful qualities you've stated, requires salespeople to push. Look around this thread, no one you do not introduce to dun, looks for dun.
It's a very strong indicator.

Who else comes in for help and information? There's one who just came in with a rayban. Raybans are currently the top selling sunglasses in the world . Google that.

You do not appreciate them as much as dun, I get that.
But to blatantly deny what's happening is ridiculous for a man of your position.

You're comparing chanel to dun? Do you know how big the differences in level of Branding they are? Assuming you're not my colleague and what you said is true, you have a favorite shop to ask such information about. Go ask them how exclusive chanel is.

 

[oldbreadstinks]

just for information, now dun can be found in alot of shops liao, even have gone into the neighbourhood, in case you still havent realised it. Free go ard see see. Amk also have. Not just limited to chain stores. Dun used to be quite exclusive. Not sellable doesnt mean they must be all over the place right? U understand the meaning of exclusivity? Just like Chanel?

Now Dun still exclusive so u dont see them everywhere. Just like 999.9 japonism all these are exclusive brands. 999.9 is very strict with their criteria. They look at your shop layout, location etc before deciding to let you sell their frames or not. They used to let Capitol Optical carry but not now anymore.

Dun is not seen everywhere because they cost more than $400 a pop. Not because they're exclusive.

Kept telling you the problem with them was never quality but you kept trying to argue with me over that.

In the neighborhood

REAL neighborhoods, the quiet ones
People buy glasses at $40 a pair onwards. No one who carries $40 glasses are going to order $400 frames and leave them there to rot if there's no consignment option.

And stuff like dun, do not sell unless you have a certain range like 20-40 pieces
That's $400X20 min which works out to potentially $8000 stuck there.
(yes I understand the difference between cost & retail pricing, just simpliflying things )

 

[oldbreadstinks]

Can anyone help me on this?

I just got myself a pair of 58mm ray ban aviator. Adjusted the nose pads and it fits OK. However, I kept on having the weird feeling that the glasses are sliding abit down on my nose area. Went to check out in front of the mirror and they seems ok. This pair of aviator comes with real glass lenses so they are slightly heavier.

I do not feel something like that while wearing my wayfarer which has a thicker arm. Does the thin arms on the aviator makes the glasses feels this way? Thanks.

If they're 3025s, the glass lenses make the sunglasses unbalanced.
Go to the person who sold the sunglasses to you and tell them to try to adjust them to shift the weight into a more balanced position.
( for warranty issues, they have to answer if they break your sunglasses, if you broke them yourself, good luck)

As mentioned it's possible to bend the legs over your ears, another way would be to curve them round your head if they're long enough (pulling the weight back)
Choose which ones make you hurt less?

 

[oldbreadstinks]

any idea how much does Hoya SFT, bi-as, transistion, 1.67 roughly cost?

Retails at $550

 

[Seannie]

It is a bery sad and common fact that opticians only care about profits in their own pocket which is why they only take the sellable ones and forego those that are more functional. Good products not being appreciated by opticians so not brought into the retail market so those who go to optical shops most times only can choose commercialised brands like oakley tagheuer rayban etc.

Ofcos Rayban is the most sellable sunglass in the world who doesnt know it. 8 yr old kid also know. I dont wear sunglass so no comment on that, never said rayban is no good. Its stylish. If one day i dont wear optical frames anymore i might wear rayban or oakley too.

Unknown or nit so sellable brands doesnt equate that they are no good. They could just be gems waiting to be discovered. All they need are just marketing. Without good marketing no product can sell well.

Im standing at a consumer point of view. I look for what is the best. Not what is the most sellable.

If japonism is not sellable & rejected by capitol so be it. Nobody can verify that except the management unless somebody admits they are from optical management else all are just hearsay. If Capitol is being rejected, will they have face to admit it? Ofcos they will say they reject the product instead. Maybe they couldnt hit the sales quota? Hah.

 

[jericho75]

If they're 3025s, the glass lenses make the sunglasses unbalanced.
Go to the person who sold the sunglasses to you and tell them to try to adjust them to shift the weight into a more balanced position.
( for warranty issues, they have to answer if they break your sunglasses, if you broke them yourself, good luck)

As mentioned it's possible to bend the legs over your ears, another way would be to curve them round your head if they're long enough (pulling the weight back)
Choose which ones make you hurt less?

thanks bro. the glass lens really make the rb 3025 feels heavy on the front.

my rb 2132 feels ok because theyare made of plastic lenses.

 

[oldbreadstinks]

thanks bro. the glass lens really make the rb 3025 feels heavy on the front.

my rb 2132 feels ok because theyare made of plastic lenses.

Glass lenses have a better Abbe value, making them a great material for lenses. Mineral ( glass)also have better scratch resistance compared to organic materials (plastic )
So technically speaking, as long as you do not drop your sunglasses, you can actually pass it on to the next generation without a scratch

Plus older generations would remember, how "cooling " it was to wear glass sunglasses in the day. When you only use it for driving, weight itself wasn't an issue back then ( but they had no other choices of course )

 

[oldbreadstinks]

It is a bery sad and common fact that opticians only care about profits in their own pocket which is why they only take the sellable ones and forego those that are more functional. Good products not being appreciated by opticians so not brought into the retail market so those who go to optical shops most times only can choose commercialised brands like oakley tagheuer rayban etc.

Ofcos Rayban is the most sellable sunglass in the world who doesnt know it. 8 yr old kid also know. I dont wear sunglass so no comment on that, never said rayban is no good. Its stylish. If one day i dont wear optical frames anymore i might wear rayban or oakley too.

Unknown or nit so sellable brands doesnt equate that they are no good. They could just be gems waiting to be discovered. All they need are just marketing. Without good marketing no product can sell well.

Im standing at a consumer point of view. I look for what is the best. Not what is the most sellable.

If japonism is not sellable & rejected by capitol so be it. Nobody can verify that except the management unless somebody admits they are from optical management else all are just hearsay. If Capitol is being rejected, will they have face to admit it? Ofcos they will say they reject the product instead. Maybe they couldnt hit the sales quota? Hah.

The problem has never been with opticians, if the customers are willing to pay for $400 frame, excluding lenses. All opticians would stock $400 frames.
Put your money where your mouth is and not your foot. Reject your optician next time they offer you a discount. Tell them you value their service and advice. don't forget to give him/ her a tip too.
Don't be a hypocrite, go ask for a lower pay as well. Tell your boss you want to work for satisfaction .

Optical shops sell what consumers want to buy. They don't dictate what consumers want
Any shop which decides to do so goes down the drain.


Seanie... please go ask all the 8 year olds what brands sell well and tell me if it's rayban, or would they prefer Spiderman / angrybirds......etc
Even adults may not know what sells well much less 8 year olds.


And sales quota?
I mentioned it before, dun isn't on consignment. You buy / order and sell it.
Not selling? Best hope it tastes good with pepper. Large chain rejected? you don't reject a brand. You simply stop ordering if it doesn't sell. Capitol services the general public. Items sold are mass market consumer products. Dun is not that.
There are stores under the same management, selling dun or related products to a niche market. But Capitol as a chain isn't going to push dun.


And in case you have not realized, so far I'm just responding to your comments and fallacies directed at me
not even shooting a single question or even questioning you despite you actually calling me names first.
But you're really really sore that I don't agree with you

 

[Mancunian2]

Dear oldbread,

What is Japanese Asuka Progressive lens?
(Saw a poster at neighborhood shop limited time offer $300)

 

[oldbreadstinks]

Dear oldbread,

What is Japanese Asuka Progressive lens?
(Saw a poster at neighborhood shop limited time offer $300)

Azura or asuka?


BTW noobpro, if you're reading this your inbox is full, can't reply. But she's not around tomorrow