The Spectacles Thread.

[Seannie]

what's the more fashionable frame color for the front now?
black? brown? dark brown?

considering this... got different colors...
http://i.imgur.com/zfCbH.jpg

this frame looks rigid, doesnt seem to have spring hinges, would it be comfy wearing it??

 

[tildveryn]

this frame looks rigid, doesnt seem to have spring hinges, would it be comfy wearing it??

The sides are ultra flexible types...
same material used for diving instruments. so its soft and flexible.
front is rigid so that it wont shift.

I'm thinking of either black or brown...

and either Hoya 1.7 or Nikon/Zeiss/Essilor 1.74 lens...
I wonder if 1.7 and 1.74... weight would make a difference... I'm not so concern of thickness because the frame can conceal... but mainly the weight...

I see good reviews on Hoya 1.7 because of the abbe value. But maybe too clear/sharp also no good? then I'm thinking 1.74 lens would be lighter?

 

[tildveryn]

Anyone knows if Nulux EP 1.7 is sold in Singapore? and where? and how much?
NULUX EP1.7

Generally... how much does double asperical lens cost?

 

[2pm2am]

Actually the main problem i face with specs is that i often dont feel comfortable wearing in them, no matter how the optician adjust it will still not feel right. I suppose my head & nose structure is not symmetrical and the specs tendency to always slip down becos of my oily face as well. Even with oakley or tagheuer frames, they still slip forward & down, so it has been posing a lot of problems to me.

if that is the case, you should choose something that is comfortable first before going for the designs you like. If you just choose something you like but it's not comfortable, then no matter what adjustment is done, you will not feel comfortable in it.

some shops just let customers choose the frames they like without advising them how thick the lens will be (for high prescription) or how the prescription will be affected in the spectacles.

a good optometrist/optician will foresee the problems when choosing frames for you or the frames you choose yourself whether it's suitable or not.

 

[2pm2am]

Anyone knows if Nulux EP 1.7 is sold in Singapore? and where? and how much?
NULUX EP1.7

Generally... how much does double asperical lens cost?

recommended price is $600+

 

[2pm2am]

A good reliable optician will be honest, give you the lens that they said, make sure lens is the correct prescription as stated, do a good careful job & will not hand you a sub-standard product.

Optometrists job just to test the eyes, so i dont have much criteria on them, as long as they dont make a huge error in the prescription.

Often the problems lie more in the optician/worker/lab technician.

the problems lie more in the optician because many are not fomally trained and may not know what to do when you have problem with your glasses.

 

[foxy_20]

update: received my new lens with sft coating.. nw i can see the thick coating difference as compared to previously

 

[Seannie]

update: received my new lens with sft coating.. nw i can see the thick coating difference as compared to previously

Gold coating? Looks super nice right? Like a class above the rest?

 

[Seannie]

if that is the case, you should choose something that is comfortable first before going for the designs you like. If you just choose something you like but it's not comfortable, then no matter what adjustment is done, you will not feel comfortable in it.

some shops just let customers choose the frames they like without advising them how thick the lens will be (for high prescription) or how the prescription will be affected in the spectacles.

a good optometrist/optician will foresee the problems when choosing frames for you or the frames you choose yourself whether it's suitable or not.

how to find a comfortable fit when my head is crooked and face oily all of the time?

Any recommendations for a good optician??

 

[Seannie]

Anyone knows if Nulux EP 1.7 is sold in Singapore? and where? and how much?
NULUX EP1.7

Generally... how much does double asperical lens cost?

HOYA is sold everywher, even in msia they recommended it.

For hoya, 1.7 & 1.74 are already automically double aspherical incorporated. For 1.74, the coating only one type sft. For 1.67, they have options for HVP coating and SFT coating and options for single aspheric & double aspheric.

1.67 single aspheric cost ard $400 while 1.67 double aspheric ard $550. 1.7 wilbe ard $650 while 1.74 will suddenly shot up to $1,000.

So i suggest you take HOYA 1.7 lens will be justifiable esp since you dont need to have so thin lenses. The price diff not worth it as well cos thickness not tat much of a diff. 1.74 is exp is becos of the hype cos its a new product for HOYA. In the past, they only have up to 1.7 highest index. Wait a couple of years & see if cost for 1.74 will drop before consider it. Thats my opinion.

In msia, they charge abt half the price for HOYA.

 

[tildveryn]

HOYA is sold everywher, even in msia they recommended it.

For hoya, 1.7 & 1.74 are already automically double aspherical incorporated. For 1.74, the coating only one type sft. For 1.67, they have options for HVP coating and SFT coating and options for single aspheric & double aspheric.

1.67 single aspheric cost ard $400 while 1.67 double aspheric ard $550. 1.7 wilbe ard $650 while 1.74 will suddenly shot up to $1,000.

So i suggest you take HOYA 1.7 lens will be justifiable esp since you dont need to have so thin lenses. The price diff not worth it as well cos thickness not tat much of a diff. 1.74 is exp is becos of the hype cos its a new product for HOYA. In the past, they only have up to 1.7 highest index. Wait a couple of years & see if cost for 1.74 will drop before consider it. Thats my opinion.

In msia, they charge abt half the price for HOYA.

My degree is 650 and astigmatism 150. So I thinking of getting thinner lens so that it would be lighter for me.. as light as possible and not compromising clarity. If I want the lens to be thin... but not flat, which one should i get? Flat i mean it looks like a flat block in front of you... instead of curve. Will aspheric or double aspheric make it very flat? or does it depends on brand? I tried asperhic Zeiss and Seiko before. Seiko makes it very flat... but not Zeiss. Flat really feels funny and not natural.

looking at hoya hong kong website... they offer alot of options...
meaning... 1.7 can be aspheric or double aspheric... or even spherical.
coating is another combination... and they have another coating better than SFT... called Venus Guard. so i guess it's depending on region... checking at other hoya sites like america, australia and europe... they offer slightly different coating... or perphaps just different name?

I saw the price list of hoya standard brochure (should be the same for all shops)... for stock lens of 1.7 is $500. Is this aspheric or double aspheric?
I forgot to ask the shop... and i didnt read the brochure carefully to see the model number....

For 1.74... and 1.67.... definitely cannot go for Hoya... because of the low abbe value as compared to other brands.

I'm actually thinking of getting Nikon 1.74 with seemax coating because it supposed to have the best anti reflection coating in terms of clarity/cosmetic appeal (not durability though) and also one of the best abbe value and density. BUT... it's so hard to get Nikon nowadays. Heard from shop that only some shops are licensed to sell Nikon lens so not all shops can carry.

 

[tildveryn]

Just curious of the process...
Optical shop will send the frame to the lab for cutting and fixing?
What about the lens? Does the lab carry the lens? or it is from another source? and shop will send the frame and then the lens is from another location to the lab?

 

[Seannie]

Just curious of the process...
Optical shop will send the frame to the lab for cutting and fixing?
What about the lens? Does the lab carry the lens? or it is from another source? and shop will send the frame and then the lens is from another location to the lab?

Its better to know less, all in all its a shoddy process. Your frame & lenses pass thru so many hands that you wont know at which point in time they can get mishandled. HOYA has their own labs as well so they can also do the cutting & fixing and send the finished product back to the optical shop. Some optical shop orders the lens & do their own cutting.

 

[Seannie]

You dont have much choices in sg. They make the lenses all flat nowadays that what everybody wants. Aspheric is flat, double even flatter. Just get the HOYA 1.7. NOt many shops have nikon means its gg to be phased out in a matter of time so better dont think abt getting tat. I was conned into getting nikon seemax & they say its sharpest & wadeva ruvvish. In the end the vision is NOT very sharp. The salesman just wanna clear their nikon stocks thats why promoted it. Bro Don think too much into it. Just make sure your HOYA 1.7 is sft coating & i think it can last you a number of year from then on.

 

[tildveryn]

You dont have much choices in sg. They make the lenses all flat nowadays that what everybody wants. Aspheric is flat, double even flatter. Just get the HOYA 1.7. NOt many shops have nikon means its gg to be phased out in a matter of time so better dont think abt getting tat. I was conned into getting nikon seemax & they say its sharpest & wadeva ruvvish. In the end the vision is NOT very sharp. The salesman just wanna clear their nikon stocks thats why promoted it. Bro Don think too much into it. Just make sure your HOYA 1.7 is sft coating & i think it can last you a number of year from then on.

yah... finger crossed... just did 1.7 aspheric... shop say my degree dont need double aspheric? but my degree is 650 and 150 astig... hopefully its true and wont end up thick and heavy because the new frame is wider than my old one.

What i want is thin... not flat... thin and flat are different...
i seldom see flat ones around... but once in a blue moon i will see... when in mrt... those ugly flat types... doesnt fit the face... thin is nice... but flat is not. if choose square frame... then it looks even flatter... rimless will be worse.

 

[atypical]

Seannie, I agree with 2am2pm. You have to find the frame that will fit you comfortably first before design and brand come into play. My face is also crooked, and I bet your face will not be as oily as mine.

I've figured out the optimum temple length for my head, nose pad distance, and overall, the kind of (overall) frame width for my face.

No one's face is totally symmetrical, and my face is also asymmetrical, so much so that it's quite obvious. But I realised that the right temple has to move further out in order for the frame to be straight when resting on my nose .... Since then, frame adjustments have been a freeze ....

Point is, you have to figure out the way your face is crooked, and why every time, every frame feels uncomfortable to you. If you can't describe these discomfort to the optician, no one can help you, make sense?

 

[tildveryn]

update: received my new lens with sft coating.. nw i can see the thick coating difference as compared to previously

is yours aspheric or double aspheric? and what degree?

 

[tildveryn]

You dont have much choices in sg. They make the lenses all flat nowadays that what everybody wants. Aspheric is flat, double even flatter. Just get the HOYA 1.7. NOt many shops have nikon means its gg to be phased out in a matter of time so better dont think abt getting tat. I was conned into getting nikon seemax & they say its sharpest & wadeva ruvvish. In the end the vision is NOT very sharp. The salesman just wanna clear their nikon stocks thats why promoted it. Bro Don think too much into it. Just make sure your HOYA 1.7 is sft coating & i think it can last you a number of year from then on.

Nikon not clear? it's premium quality and coating as compared to the rest.. as i know...
unless you have the same index, type, prescription for different brand and on same frame... then u could compare... else hard to compare for many reasons. too many factors can affect clarity

 

[Seannie]

Most of the frames i tried are not comfortable. Even if those that are comfy at the first try at the shop & decide to buy, the initial few weeks maybe feel ok but after that the frame will start to feel uncomfy. I dunnoe wad is the reason. Is it becos my body starts to reject the frame after few weeks? U noe just like when u did an organ transplant then the body starts to reject the new organ after some time causing organ failure?

Even after so many years, im not able to relate my discomforts to the optician, just cant figure out where the unbalanced parts are, because im unable to look at my own head from outside angle.

I only know that i need to push my left temple in to feel comfy, the left side always feel like "dropping out", the left side always feel tighter than the right side. How to adjust?

You cant adjust for oily face, other than keep washing face. My frame feels the most comfy putting on everytime after bathing & washing my specs becos thats the only time when there is no oil at all& the frame able to stick & hold in place. But that will only last until the next morning.

Hmmm, anyway i hav already spent too much $ looking for the right specs / optician that I just have to stick to my current pair and force myself get used to it & accept the flaws & discomfort & shouldnt bother & think abt it anymore.

I have given up hope of getting a good specs.

 

[atypical]

Took me about 23 years and a Eureka! moment to realise my answer, I'd say, don't give up bro!

A lot of the so call good frames mentioned here either don't suit me, or I don't think they are good. Then again, different strokes for different folks, it's quite a personal thing.

By the way, there is a pair of Moscot Lemtosh in tortoise in the window display of Paris Miki Suntec. I think the price, at $352, is not bad. Check it out.