The Watch Thread - Part 13

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My 'pretend to be in Japan' picture. Sumire's set lunches offer incredible value that doesn't burn the pocket.

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Great looking PP and the food looks great! A perpetual calendar with chronograph?
 

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Frankly my heart is on the AP ROO but for the long term the ROO wont be able to satisfy. The 5712 seems a much better choice as a long term watch. My wrist isnt all that big but I had a 42mm AP ROO panda and it seemed abist small on my wrist.

What look are you going for? Seems like you have cash to reward yourself with a > $40k watch.

In terms of uniqueness, the PP is clearlu ahead. You could argue the ROO is unique too, well yes that general look is but there are many "hubloisk" variants, something AP I believe is trying to consolidate. The ROO is an acquired taste I find. What do you own now, it will influence what you shoudl get. Again 2 very diff timepieces..2 differnt style, and also sizes. Whats your write size the ROO wears more than 44mm as for all ROOs. Lol the only thing similar are prices and they are top tier manufacturers?
 

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Lovely piece. Annual canlender, chrono in steel. Epic pp reference. :D

Wish its more water resistent though =:p

My 'pretend to be in Japan' picture. Sumire's set lunches offer incredible value that doesn't burn the pocket.

PP22_zps7tr1vgpb.jpg
 
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Pp for sure. Its classic of classics! Thats what i am aiming for.

Im curious abiut what U watch gurus think. If given a choice between the 2 watches, which woulf you get?

1) New AP ROO 44m Titanium with the grey dial
2) Patek 5712/1A-001
 

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What look are you going for? Seems like you have cash to reward yourself with a > $40k watch.

In terms of uniqueness, the PP is clearlu ahead. You could argue the ROO is unique too, well yes that general look is but there are many "hubloisk" variants, something AP I believe is trying to consolidate. The ROO is an acquired taste I find. What do you own now, it will influence what you shoudl get. Again 2 very diff timepieces..2 differnt style, and also sizes. Whats your write size the ROO wears more than 44mm as for all ROOs. Lol the only thing similar are prices and they are top tier manufacturers?

PP = pinnacle of watchmaking, you get the full set. satki-ness but likely not recognisable by normal ppl (Non-WIS). Likely end game for most people. Whatever above it will be close to 6 figures

AP = Satki, can tell from afar, non-wis ppl will know. After buying this AP, you still have the PP to aim for, keeps the desire for more burning.
 

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Thks for chiming in but for me its about my personal shiokness. People ard me not into watches so i don need to feel satki in front of them or anyone for that matter. But just my love for watches and I wanna get something I like and with decent resale and easy to move if I tire of it in the future.

PP = pinnacle of watchmaking, you get the full set. satki-ness but likely not recognisable by normal ppl (Non-WIS). Likely end game for most people. Whatever above it will be close to 6 figures

AP = Satki, can tell from afar, non-wis ppl will know. After buying this AP, you still have the PP to aim for, keeps the desire for more burning.
 

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Frankly my heart is on the AP ROO but for the long term the ROO wont be able to satisfy. The 5712 seems a much better choice as a long term watch. My wrist isnt all that big but I had a 42mm AP ROO panda and it seemed abist small on my wrist.

imo 5712 definitely has a good resale and easy to move on, if you happen to come across another time piece

but then.... go with your heart ;)
 

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Frankly my heart is on the AP ROO but for the long term the ROO wont be able to satisfy. The 5712 seems a much better choice as a long term watch. My wrist isnt all that big but I had a 42mm AP ROO panda and it seemed abist small on my wrist.

44mm ROO is ugh. very crude watch. AP ROO 42mm ok.

LOL pls dont buy that. go with that PP.
 

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Based on all the replies, it's clear PP vs AP which company has the better marketing :s13:

don't say marketing. marketing is a cheat. all fake one. it's a tool to cloud the masses judgement. we don't need a watch that tells time for 5 figures. tsk tsk.

Ok jokes aside.

lol. i think PP established themselves as the top luxury watch maker NOT for the masses.

AP = Rich people can get, no need to know watches because the mass somehow will know.

as for all the ppl that are WIS, will definitely choose PP over AP.

but if you ask the mass, they might or will choose AP over PP.
 

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Thks for chiming in but for me its about my personal shiokness. People ard me not into watches so i don need to feel satki in front of them or anyone for that matter. But just my love for watches and I wanna get something I like and with decent resale and easy to move if I tire of it in the future.

let me burst that bubble for you.

AP and PP = preowned hardest to move.
Why? People who decides to spend a great deal of money on a watch, they will either keep it or have the experience of buying from the boutique. (for benefits like event exclusive invites, relationship etc etc).
The amount of people that are into AP and PP gets smaller and smaller. The pool of your potential buyers gets really small.
Those people who tells you its easy to sell, u ask them what crack they smoking. Maybe can sell, tank huge losses. Initial brand new watch prices that gets higher, the losses is higher. for example, Lange 1, sold for 80k brand new, wear alr sell how much? 50k? 40k? even sell at 60k u also need tank 20. Aqaunuat 5167, buy 25k, if heng, really heng, can sell maybe 23k if condition good. The lowest i seen ever is 18k = smelly also 3-4k losses (this is easier to sell because entry level patek, very different from 5712. 5712, waiting list so long means everyone no hurry, wants to buy brand new.)
unless you're got the funds to tank then by all means.
another method is source for preowned, wear alr, sian sell. minimise losses (sure take some time to sell).
wear alr, damn shiok, wanna buy new one to keep, sell the preowned, then find new one.

resale fast = ROLEX, AP RO, Diver, AP ROO 42mm (alot in the market floating around and all below 19k easy)

AP ROO 44mm (rare bird, hard to move)
PP 5712 - why u wanna sell? pls don't.....

That's my strategy for buying watches with limited funds, you can no need follow me. :)

if you don't care about people, then i will say go PP, it makes WIS drool and u wear alr knowing its a patek, a class above all = ultimate satki.
 
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don't say marketing. marketing is a cheat. all fake one. it's a tool to cloud the masses judgement. we don't need a watch that tells time for 5 figures. tsk tsk.

Ok jokes aside.

lol. i think PP established themselves as the top luxury watch maker NOT for the masses.

AP = Rich people can get, no need to know watches because the mass somehow will know.

as for all the ppl that are WIS, will definitely choose PP over AP.

but if you ask the mass, they might or will choose AP over PP.

+1 here before teentitan blasts u for this post. Hehe
 
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