The Watch Thread - Part 16

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Too bad not kanji version, trying to get JDM one

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Too bad not kanji version, trying to get JDM one

kanji is limited 500pcs.. selling out pretty fast, some jap sites already no stocks.
 
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King Samurai anyone?

The white is really nice. Actually the black too. The price is going to be something that we are not used to though. I think need to wait for a while for it to normalise, looking at the King Turtle.
 

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Thanks bro. The boxes look good. Actually I need a non wired one forgot to say 😅. Got alot of ppl walking around my house so I always need keep in wardrobe zzzz. Rechargeable or battery operated one is fine too

Any recommendations can post here for me will appreciate it!

Can check out Wind-O-Matic. Recently just purchased from them, extremely well build and reasonable price I must say for the price you're paying. Now just got to put both my watches in there and both never stopped. :s12:
 

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I'm actually quite lazy and I always only rmb to wind it after more than 3 days at least. My watch stopped more than 5 times at least already during this **

You don't need to keep winding the watch unless you have a perpetual calendar, or one of those watches with no quickset date (e.g. Vostok with date window).

It becomes a habit to pick up the watch, set it, and go out...

Anyways, there are various schools of thought about this, some people seem to think that not keeping the watch wound will gunk it up - I think the general consensus is that this no longer applies to modern watches with modern lubricants. I would argue that it makes sense that keeping it wound less often actually reduces wear and tear..
 

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There is actually no need to keep perpetual calendars running continuously. The date can be easily be caught up with the correction pusher or crown turns, depending on model.
 

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There is actually no need to keep perpetual calendars running continuously. The date can be easily be caught up with the correction pusher or crown turns, depending on model.

I see, I have not had a perpetual calendar before, but I have seen discussions in WUS talking about overshooting the date by mistake, requiring the watch company to help to reset (and potentially get charged for opening the case etc). Is that no longer an issue these days?
 

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I see, I have not had a perpetual calendar before, but I have seen discussions in WUS talking about overshooting the date by mistake, requiring the watch company to help to reset (and potentially get charged for opening the case etc). Is that no longer an issue these days?
Actually an interesting follow-on question is about the new MB perpetual calendar module, since it has a GMT (solid hand) hour hand for local time indication (and a 24-hour indicator for the home time, tracking the skeleton hour hand). Does the perpetual calendar track the local date? if so, it must mean that the PC module allows a date change backwards.

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Afaik that only affects certain perpetual calendars, e.g. IWC, JLC. Overly enthusiastic winding might cause the date to overshoot but it should be at most one or two days (unless one is daydreaming while winding). The solution is not to wear the watch, let it come to a stop, and let time catch up with it.
 

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Thanks bro. The boxes look good. Actually I need a non wired one forgot to say 😅. Got alot of ppl walking around my house so I always need keep in wardrobe zzzz. Rechargeable or battery operated one is fine too

Any recommendations can post here for me will appreciate it!


They are both AC outlet and Battery operated. :flash:
 

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Actually an interesting follow-on question is about the new MB perpetual calendar module, since it has a GMT (solid hand) hour hand for local time indication (and a 24-hour indicator for the home time, tracking the skeleton hour hand). Does the perpetual calendar track the local date? if so, it must mean that the PC module allows a date change backwards.

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I see, or perhaps it is slaved somewhat to the hour hand...?
 

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Afaik that only affects certain perpetual calendars, e.g. IWC, JLC. Overly enthusiastic winding might cause the date to overshoot but it should be at most one or two days (unless one is daydreaming while winding). The solution is not to wear the watch, let it come to a stop, and let time catch up with it.

You are right - I think the fundamental problem could be in the context of no quick set date. When I had my Vostok Amphibia (yes, a far cry from perpetual calendars), I ended up hardly wearing it because when I left it alone and wanted to set the date, sometimes it was a rather ghastly affair.

I can imagine if there is somehow no quick set function for perpetual calendars, when you have to catch up after a long period of not wearing, that would be very painful indeed (months! years! oh dear..).

So perhaps I was mistaken about perpetual calendars as a whole category needing winding, the issue is quick set date.
 

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Afaik, most perpetuals have a quick set in the sense that you (a) turn the crown to move all the date indications at once without having to go through a 24 hour cycle: or (b) adjust the indications using a corrector.

It can be painful for the crown only calibres if you have to catch up months and years because you have to quick set through every single past day. It is even worse if the the year is indicated (if the watch was worn more than 4 years ago!). For those that don't track the year, the most is to quick set through a 4 year cycle of 1461 days.

For those calibres with correctors, it's relatively quick and simple to set the day, date, month, and year in a 4 year cycle to bring it up to date. At worst you have to click through 48 months if year and month are coupled together.
 

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Afaik, most perpetuals have a quick set in the sense that you (a) turn the crown to move all the date indications at once without having to go through a 24 hour cycle: or (b) adjust the indications using a corrector.

It can be painful for the crown only calibres if you have to catch up months and years because you have to quick set through every single past day. It is even worse if the the year is indicated (if the watch was worn more than 4 years ago!). For those that don't track the year, the most is to quick set through a 4 year cycle of 1461 days.

For those calibres with correctors, it's relatively quick and simple to set the day, date, month, and year in a 4 year cycle to bring it up to date. At worst you have to click through 48 months if year and month are coupled together.
I also think that it's due partly to the "complexity" of the sequence of setting the corrector pushers.

At least for the cal. 240Q in the Patek, you have to set to a safe time first, then set to the 1st of the month (pusher 1), then set to the correct month in the correct year (pusher 2), then set the date (pusher 1), and then the day of the week (pusher 3), then moonphase (pusher 4), then time, in this specific sequence.
 
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