The Watch Thread - Part 5

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Wahlao.. Emo so fit.. If your gf disagree with your skeleton watch. U use her to do standing shoulder press.. Then her leg turn soft and say OK to your skeleton watch.. :D
 
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Lurker_13 said:
O my 天! I m drooling le!!! :s13:
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U mean this..? :D hahahahaha..

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Seems like people in this thread mostly elites + fit zai

I am just a peasant + short short bui bui =(
 
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Nakedtoes said:
Sound like porn....
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Lol.. Not porn la.. Maybe can do Jackie chan dancing style which he always showing in his movie.. The one that turn the girl round and round and throw upwards and swing below..? :s13:

Think it sounds even more wrong now for those who dunno Jackie chan dancing moves in his movies.. :D
 
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Denieru82 said:
Wahlao.. Emo so fit.. If your gf disagree with your skeleton watch. U use her to do standing shoulder press.. Then her leg turn soft and say OK to your skeleton watch.. :D
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u all confirm haven see our runway model gao xing kor kor!!!
 
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a562140 said:
CBS - can elaborate on how you use that tool and why its better than the the usual screwdriver/springbars?

any advtanges / limitations to case/lug desgins or strap materials?

maybe a proper review :)
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Ok, here goes.

There are already pictures on the internet about how the tool works, so I won't go into detail with that. It's pretty straightforward anyway. What I can do is describe my personal reasons for buying the tool and how I feel about it after using it for quite a while now.

It all started when I got bored of the steel bracelet of my Explorer. So I thought of changing out the bracelet to a leather one. This brought to my attention a few things:

1) 21mm width straps are very rare
2) Newer Rolexes have very narrow spring bar channels, so much so that it's not easy to find a spring bar tool that will fit porperly

I have a $25 tool that I bought from a watch shop before and that worked fine for my other watches, but it did not work at all for the Explorer. It couldn't even fit as it was too wide.

So after spending some time in the Google watch making academy, I found some people having success with the Bergeon dual forked tool: 6825

However, it wasn't as straightforward as buying the tool and using it. There were 2 models, the 6825 and the 6825-pf. The "pf" model has the thinner forks and is made for watches with narrow spring bar channels.

Despite being the thinner model, the "pf" still is a hair wider than the Rolex spring bar channel. So people had to file them down to size to be able to operate on Rolex watches.

So that was my plan.

First I bought the tool





The instructions printed on the box is very clear





The actual tool. The knobs on the sides hold on to the forks while the centre one precisely adjusts the spread of the forks.






I took a very fine file and filed down the outside of the forks until they fit the Explorer. Took a while and a lot of patience, but I eventually got there.





This is the view when you're actually using it





And this is how it compresses the spring bar





This particular tool is especially useful when the spring bar channels are extremely narrow, like the Explorer. It allows you to compress both ends of the spring bar at once, hence enabling one to smoothly, in one single step, pull the bracelet away from the watch or place the bracelet into the watch.

Fuss free and scratch-less, if you're careful. If you don't concentrate or slip, the sharp points of the fork will end up scratching the watch or bracelet. But the possibility of that happening is drastically reduced compared with using a single fork tool.

It is not useful for leather straps at all as leather straps are quite flexible and easily manipulated with a single fork tool. Once you get one end in, which is very easy, the other end can be coaxed in easily as the leather can be thought of as non-existent when manipulating the spring bar.

Metal bracelets are not flexible, hence the procedures of removing or putting on the bracelets have to be precise. The dual fork tool allows this as you can grip the bracelet while compressing the spring bar at once.

That's it. Nothing fancy.
 
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chickenbackside said:
Ok, here goes.

There are already pictures on the internet about how the tool works, so I won't go into detail with that. It's pretty straightforward anyway. What I can do is describe my personal reasons for buying the tool and how I feel about it after using it for quite a while now.

It all started when I got bored of the steel bracelet of my Explorer. So I thought of changing out the bracelet to a metal one. This brought to my attention a few things:

1) 21mm width straps are very rare
2) Newer Rolexes have very narrow spring bar channels, so much so that it's not easy to find a spring bar tool that will fit porperly

I have a $25 tool that I bought from a watch shop before and that worked fine for my other watches, but it did not work at all for the Explorer. It couldn't even fit as it was too wide.

So after spending some time in the Google watch making academy, I found some people having success with the Bergeon dual forked tool: 6825

However, it wasn't as straightforward as buying the tool and using it. There were 2 models, the 6825 and the 6825-pf. The "pf" model has the thinner forks and is made more watches with narrow spring bar channels.

Despite being the thinner model, the "pf" still was a hair wider than the Rolex spring bar channel. So people had to file them down to size to be able to operate on Rolex watches.

So that was my plan.

First I bought the tool





The instructions printed on the box is very clear





The actual tool. The knobs at the side hold on to the forks while the centre one precisely adjusts the spread of the forks.






I took a very fine file and filed down the outside of the forks until they fit the Explorer. Took a while and a lot of patience, but I eventually got there.





This is the view when you're actually using it





And this is how it compresses the spring bar





This particular tool is especially useful when the spring bar channels are extremely narrow, like the Explorer. It allows you to compress both ends of the spring bar at once, hence enabling one to smoothly, in one single step, pull the bracelet away from the watch or place the bracelet into the watch.

Fuss free and scratch-less, if you're careful. If you don't concentrate or slip, the sharp points of the fork will end up scratching the watch or bracelet. But the possibility of that happening is drastically reduced compared with using a single fork tool.

It is not useful for leather straps at all as leather straps are quite flexible and easily manipulated with a single tool. Once you get one end in, which is very easy, the other end can be coaxed in easily as the leather can be thought of as non-existent when manipulating the spring bar.

Metal bracelets are not flexible, hence the procedure of removing or putting on the bracelets have to be precise. The dual fork tool allows this as you can grip the bracelet while compressing the spring bar at once.

That's it. Nothing fancy.
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Nice guide and photos.. May I ask the damage and do u buy it online or can get it locally..? I stupidly change my watch strap on my omega with a glasses screw driver thinking it should have been very easy and left a few scratch in the inner part or the lugs.. So sad.. But lesson learned..
 
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Nakedtoes said:
change back to black paro strap... cause my 2 folds deployant came...

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previous using butterfly type...

anyone interested in the deployant can pm me can help to order.. can help to install also:D
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dont mind sharing where to get that ? and how much is it
 
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chickenbackside said:
Ok, here goes.

There are already pictures on the internet about how the tool works, so I won't go into detail with that. It's pretty straightforward anyway. What I can do is describe my personal reasons for buying the tool and how I feel about it after using it for quite a while now.

It all started when I got bored of the steel bracelet of my Explorer. So I thought of changing out the bracelet to a metal one. This brought to my attention a few things:

1) 21mm width straps are very rare
2) Newer Rolexes have very narrow spring bar channels, so much so that it's not easy to find a spring bar tool that will fit porperly

I have a $25 tool that I bought from a watch shop before and that worked fine for my other watches, but it did not work at all for the Explorer. It couldn't even fit as it was too wide.

So after spending some time in the Google watch making academy, I found some people having success with the Bergeon dual forked tool: 6825

However, it wasn't as straightforward as buying the tool and using it. There were 2 models, the 6825 and the 6825-pf. The "pf" model has the thinner forks and is made for watches with narrow spring bar channels.

Despite being the thinner model, the "pf" still was a hair wider than the Rolex spring bar channel. So people had to file them down to size to be able to operate on Rolex watches.

So that was my plan.

This particular tool is especially useful when the spring bar channels are extremely narrow, like the Explorer. It allows you to compress both ends of the spring bar at once, hence enabling one to smoothly, in one single step, pull the bracelet away from the watch or place the bracelet into the watch.

Fuss free and scratch-less, if you're careful. If you don't concentrate or slip, the sharp points of the fork will end up scratching the watch or bracelet. But the possibility of that happening is drastically reduced compared with using a single fork tool.

It is not useful for leather straps at all as leather straps are quite flexible and easily manipulated with a single fork tool. Once you get one end in, which is very easy, the other end can be coaxed in easily as the leather can be thought of as non-existent when manipulating the spring bar.

Metal bracelets are not flexible, hence the procedures of removing or putting on the bracelets have to be precise. The dual fork tool allows this as you can grip the bracelet while compressing the spring bar at once.

That's it. Nothing fancy.
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Thank you very much for that explanation. I had the same plan until I realized that the newer ceramic models don't look as good on other straps. :D
 
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Denieru82 said:
Nice guide and photos.. May I ask the damage and do u buy it online or can get it locally..? I stupidly change my watch strap on my omega with a glasses screw driver thinking it should have been very easy and left a few scratch in the inner part or the lugs.. So sad.. But lesson learned..
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Khatena Masood & Sons Trading

1 Rochor Road, #02-584,
Rochor Centre
Singapore 18001

Email: reception@khatena.com.sg

Tel No.: +65 6292 3600

Opening Hours:
Monday to Friday: 10.30am to 5.30pm
Saturday: 10.30am to 1.30pm



I went here to buy (the physical store):

Bergeon Spring Bar Plier 6825-PF - Tools and accessories for bracelets - Tools | Khatena Masood & Sons Trading

Paid around the same price.
 
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