The Watch Thread - Part 7

[a562140]

agree on the car.
personal experiences in uni.

my experience in uni is opposite - my gf had the car

 

[a562140]

Hi guys,

Will like to ask for advice if the Longines Legend Diver is worth getting? Any idea how much it is retailing at?

Thanks in advance

have no idea how much it costs but it is very nice looking - i prefer the no date version.

 

[K3vlar]

Wow I guess times really changed.. I was at Far East today browsing after work... A secondary Sch kid in uniform just bought an IWC Portuguese without much consideration with a group of impressed looking friends.

 

[exxondus]

have no idea how much it costs but it is very nice looking - i prefer the no date version.

Agree with u here. They shldnt have stopped producing the non date version

 

[DuaPuiJi]

seiko has a really good year with this and the commemorative divers. here, let the watch talk to you directly:

wow! how much is this?

 

[arctuates]

How old is this gmt master?

How comfortable are u that the watch is not franken or what steps did u take to address that risk?

I think you need to define franken. It's got a very strong negative connotation in the vintage watch field - like cobbling parts together and intentionally hawking a made-up watch. It's far more common to see old watches being updated with new parts, and these days that's sort-of "accepted" as a norm. Like for me, I see a triplock crown on an old rolex and I'd stay away because I personally don't like the look, but this is becoming common practice because hey these watches have gotta be serviced at some point...

 

[K3vlar]

wow! how much is this?

Price given a few pages ago. Around 2k

 

[a562140]

wow! how much is this?

Full disclosure here:

SEIKO BRIGHTZ Automatic SDGZ013 500pcs Limited Edition
Ref: SDGZ013

Details

Listed price:　280,800JPY (Made in Japan)
Case Bracelet: Titanium (with Dia-shiled)
Crystal: Sapphire/ See-through back: Hardlex
Diameter: 41.9 mm (without the crown)
Thickness: 14.7 mm Weight: 135g

Movement: 8R48 34J Automatic (with Hand winding and Hack function)
Accuracy: +25/-15 sec/day
Power reserve: 45 Hour
Water resistance: 10 ATM
48.9mm x 41.9mm x 14.7mm

 

[adr77]

Have car, one get the girls. Have a hot car, one get the hot chicks!

BMW (Bus + MRT + Walk) no count.

My time nice bike will do. But not uni gals la, lians only.

 

[All in a Day]

I think you need to define franken. It's got a very strong negative connotation in the vintage watch field - like cobbling parts together and intentionally hawking a made-up watch. It's far more common to see old watches being updated with new parts, and these days that's sort-of "accepted" as a norm. Like for me, I see a triplock crown on an old rolex and I'd stay away because I personally don't like the look, but this is becoming common practice because hey these watches have gotta be serviced at some point...

I guess that's exactly the issue isnt it? Ie where to draw the line.

Let me rephrase my query to pwillie (and other vintage enthusiasts for that matter): how aware are u of the changes that were made to your vintage watch and how do u go about discovering or verifying those changes? I will leave it open as to at which point one would walk away from a deal becos the changes exceeded his threshold of an acceptable vintage.

 

[pwillie]

How old is this gmt master?

How comfortable are u that the watch is not franken or what steps did u take to address that risk?

IMO, for pre owned and vintage, you buy the seller.
I got this 1675(1977) from a seller in Rome, which was coincidentally recommended by a friendly AD.
My friend wanted a Rolex prince, they recommended us to this shop, and I saw this piece in his collection.
He only had a service receipt to show proof, but other then that, you look at common signs of vintages...eg patina on markers/hands etc
I kiasu, so I sent in to RSC to confirm again when I came back...

 

[pwillie]

I guess that's exactly the issue isnt it? Ie where to draw the line.

Let me rephrase my query to pwillie (and other vintage enthusiasts for that matter): how aware are u of the changes that were made to your vintage watch and how do u go about discovering or verifying those changes? I will leave it open as to at which point one would walk away from a deal becos the changes exceeded his threshold of an acceptable vintage.

Depends on your skill level I guess... It's really tough to go in blind to buy vintages
Just look at the amount of Franken sm300 alone.

 

[slow_mo]

Nvr had the cash to own a car during uni. Had a bike but never succeeded in picking up girls.

Bought a car in Uni for 6.5k last time. Definitely attainable then...

Ok. Not really a car... it's a lao pok car.

 

[njchay1981]

Level of Detailing on the MM300 is Amazing ...

 

[arctuates]

I guess that's exactly the issue isnt it? Ie where to draw the line.

Let me rephrase my query to pwillie (and other vintage enthusiasts for that matter): how aware are u of the changes that were made to your vintage watch and how do u go about discovering or verifying those changes? I will leave it open as to at which point one would walk away from a deal becos the changes exceeded his threshold of an acceptable vintage.

Yes, that's exactly the issue. A lot of my friends are hesitant to touch vintage because of it.

And yes, I concur with pwillie that the majority of it goes into buying the seller. To the layman especially (myself included). Best if you find a seller who's an enthusiast and knows the watch he's selling inside and out. For instance, online-wise if you surf a vintage forum long enough, you'll know which names are the big guns, and when one of them releases something it usually comes with full disclosure and is snapped up fairly fast.

Research is the second aspect for me. Especially important if it's a widely-known watch - e.g. for certainty on rolex you ought to know the details down to the dial version (mk 1, 2, 3 etc; what are the corresponding years of issue), bezel insert, caseback, what polished vs unpolished looks like, etc.

The third is correspondence. Correspondence with the seller to get as much info as possible on service history, where/whom he bought it from, any other details. Correspondence in terms of reference checks (if you're buying online). Soliciting views from experts on pics of the watch.

It's a fair bit of work, but rewarding because you generally know what you're getting for the money. Alternatively, make friends with people who are in the know, and rope them in whenever you have an itch for something!

 

[Kiton12345]

Honestly, rarely see Reversos on the market.

JLC doesn't have a big market following so people rarely buy it to flip I guess.

Reverso coincidentally is also on my next checklist, after Daytona.

I am also considering Reverso 1931 or Datejust 36mm for the next piece

Actually don't know whether to be glad or sad that JLC is not very recognized here.

But I think it is a watch with great heritage and movement at a very good price point.

Looks like we all got good taste . Are you all planning to get yours at local AD?

my experience in uni is opposite - my gf had the car

This one next level xian-ing skill already.

 

[DuaPuiJi]

 

[crapman]

Working late today to clear paper work. Taking a breath and read all the posts today.
Seems there is quite a discussion today

 

[aerolord]

Wow! Looks good, thought is Zenith for a moment

 

[Thai_Rak_Thai]

Actually don't know whether to be glad or sad that JLC is not very recognized here.

But I think it is a watch with great heritage and movement at a very good price point.

Looks like we all got good taste . Are you all planning to get yours at local AD?




This one next level xian-ing skill already.

Here's my humble piece