The Watch Thread - Part 7

[gaoxing84]

Omega's new 1957 blows everything else outta the water.

first the bring the old seamaster back, now this.
love the bracelet! not sure how will this bracelet style look on the standard moonwatch

there no moon tonight, but who cares

makes me wanna put my moonwatch back on its bracelet

 

[Lurker_13]

Dogs again pple here sure like dog

Not p*ssies meh?

 

[rachdanon]

Tag marketing should learn a thing or two from omega.
Look at how many iterations of limited Ed models they can churn out using just the moonwatch legacy. And moonwatch+snoopy==sell like hotcakes I reckon

Actually i think it cheapens the speedmaster. Akin to the AP ROO...so many plays on the same dial layout n bezel.

 

[Thai_Rak_Thai]

Tried this on just now. Master Ultra Thin. This is a special edition. Can't see the back though. Mechanical wind. Enamel dial. 38.5mm. Almost the perfect dress watch. SGD41,000. Beautiful

found a very nice review here

 

[patryn33]

Actually i think it cheapens the speedmaster. Akin to the AP ROO...so many plays on the same dial layout n bezel.

It's feels cheap as many ppl own it
In their view, they are selling and profits rolling in. The price of watch has not come down

 

[a562140]

first the bring the old seamaster back, now this.
love the bracelet! not sure how will this bracelet style look on the standard moonwatch

makes me wanna put my moonwatch back on its bracelet

this one is nice, except that they should have used the "period correct" movement - the 1861....the coaxial moon watch is stretching it bit tooooooo faaaarrrrrrrr......

 

[a562140]

Actually i think it cheapens the speedmaster. Akin to the AP ROO...so many plays on the same dial layout n bezel.

but to pwillie's point, if tag launched just a pure "heuer" historic series they could actually strengthen the brand positioning and possibly even make a credible link to modern motorsports. just look at the difference in prices between vintage Heuers and used tag heuer monacos ... Tag missing a trick there it seems.

on the omega speedmaster itself i think they risk overselling their watch while trying desperately to raise prices with the new packaging - might just end up like tag heuer monaco's where the older original 321/861 will just command higher pricing as they flood the market with 50 shades of speedmasters, and each one further away from the original/

tldr: looks like both headed down the same path.

 

[a562140]

love animals, have cats but would like dogs space allows; read the comics, watched the cartoon, only the jazz album connected with me.

 

[arctuates]

this one is nice, except that they should have used the "period correct" movement - the 1861....the coaxial moon watch is stretching it bit tooooooo faaaarrrrrrrr......

Just kiddin'. I know you meant 321.

 

[gaoxing84]

this one is nice, except that they should have used the "period correct" movement - the 1861....the coaxial moon watch is stretching it bit tooooooo faaaarrrrrrrr......

love the bracelet. very sleek. not sure the quality as good as rollie anot.
one watch, so many variation haha
those speedy collector headache sia

 

[a562140]

Just kiddin'. I know you meant 321.

no i've given up on omega ever bringing back the 321... at least the 1861 would have been plausible and realistic.

like tag heuer, omega are missing something by not bringing back the 321 for their 50 shades of the moon line. they could charge a fortune and get away with it!

 

[arctuates]

love the bracelet. very sleek. not sure the quality as good as rollie anot.
one watch, so many variation haha
those speedy collector headache sia

This is a modern take on the old 7077/1039 bracelet style - so it's essentially "period correct". I doubt rolex will ever remake their old rivet bracelets, and some micro brands (e.g. MKII) have already capitalized on that demand...

no i've given up on omega ever bringing back the 321... at least the 1861 would have been plausible and realistic.

like tag heuer, omega are missing something by not bringing back the 321 for their 50 shades of the moon line. they could charge a fortune and get away with it!

True that. Hard to justify to the uneducated consumer why a nicer-looking but less accurate movement is being used though - the 321 only has value to the vintage audience.

On the bright side, omega i think fared alot better at this baselworld than tag... that new carrera is a nightmare!

 

[pwillie]

Actually i think it cheapens the speedmaster. Akin to the AP ROO...so many plays on the same dial layout n bezel.

I beg to differ, 2 points that made it different from the ROO:
1.the limited ed usually is focused on commemorating a space event, thus it is more meaningful than for something that is hardly associated with (ROO orchard rd/lebron, speedy schumacher)
2.price range of the Speedy much lesser than a AP ROO when Omega is marketed for the masses, though i would agree with you when the speedy price goes to a ROO level (god forbid), where a certain exclusivity is expected

but as aXXXXXX points out, it runs the risk of having too many editions, esp with a single edt running in thousands.
but then without limited editions, what can the fanboys spend on?

 

[pwillie]

Just kiddin'. I know you meant 321.

no i've given up on omega ever bringing back the 321... at least the 1861 would have been plausible and realistic.

like tag heuer, omega are missing something by not bringing back the 321 for their 50 shades of the moon line. they could charge a fortune and get away with it!

some things are not meant to be.... it will probably be a nightmare supporting an EOL movement... but i guess profits over historical integrity

 

[freeustogether]

so many nice speedmasters..I was already making up my mind on the orig version but now I can't pull the trigger again...

 

[K3vlar]

no i've given up on omega ever bringing back the 321... at least the 1861 would have been plausible and realistic.

like tag heuer, omega are missing something by not bringing back the 321 for their 50 shades of the moon line. they could charge a fortune and get away with it!

dont think the new models will come cheaply too from what i read.

 

[fade_white]

can someone shed some light about swatch's group to limit the supply of ETA watches? does that mean that next time we will not be able to service watches by other brands that use ETA movement like tudors and pams?

 

[patryn33]

can someone shed some light about swatch's group to limit the supply of ETA watches? does that mean that next time we will not be able to service watches by other brands that use ETA movement like tudors and pams?

U can read a lot about this subject on watchuseek

 

[All in a Day]

I beg to differ, 2 points that made it different from the ROO:
1.the limited ed usually is focused on commemorating a space event, thus it is more meaningful than for something that is hardly associated with (ROO orchard rd/lebron, speedy schumacher)
2.price range of the Speedy much lesser than a AP ROO when Omega is marketed for the masses, though i would agree with you when the speedy price goes to a ROO level (god forbid), where a certain exclusivity is expected

but as aXXXXXX points out, it runs the risk of having too many editions, esp with a single edt running in thousands.
but then without limited editions, what can the fanboys spend on?

While each ed is linked to a space event, it has gotten to a point of an obvious commercial milking. Every 5-10 years u have yet another anniversary edition of the same event while some other events are fairly obscure unless u r a big nasa/space fan

 

[a562140]

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can someone shed some light about swatch's group to limit the supply of ETA watches? does that mean that next time we will not be able to service watches by other brands that use ETA movement like tudors and pams?

i believe the precise move by swatch is to restrict sale of complete movements to competitors, especially the smaller brands that use it claim "swiss movement.

Its unclear how they will continue to supply spare parts: notices have been given out to independent watch makers warning them that they will not be accepting further orders of movements and components.

however brands like tudor iwc are likely to be able to get parts to honour their obligations to their customers.

in any case, chinese companies have been producing whole ETA movements for years now, have no fear that there won't be parts easily accessible.