Thoughts on these condos?

[shin7829]

Hi guys
What are your thoughts on

Kandis Residences
The Jovell
Parc Botannia
RiverFront Residences
The Essence
The Tapestry
Treasure at tempiness
Whistler Grand

In terms of residence vs investment??

 

[fotoudavid]

All those are already covered by many experts here you might go read up those threads... Must have time.

I think own stay vs investment different approach... So if need to share thoughts on this very long essays...

In the end is what you want?

 

[shin7829]

All those are already covered by many experts here you might go read up those threads... Must have time.

I think own stay vs investment different approach... So if need to share thoughts on this very long essays...

In the end is what you want?

Yes i do read up abit

 

[shin7829]

I zone out and arrive at two options.

Garden residences vs Grand whistler
2bedroom

Can some gurus share some comments on these two

In terms of residence vs investment
And maybe other options

Any comments would really be appreciated.


Thanks

 

[Hyruga]

Obviously W. Grand. In fact, it will sell out soon after the clementi buyers move there.

Both locations quite inconvenient unless you drive.

 

[annetyu]

Mega development in clementi launching soon. Best to wait and see.

 

[shin7829]

any one with more analytic comments?

still torn between the two

 

[pippo20]

Wgrand lah, cheaper and cdl can buy lah haha.

 

[annetyu]

any one with more analytic comments?

still torn between the two

Go to streetdirectory and analyze the surrounding area yourself to see what kind of potential tenants you can attract... e.g. international school, university or industrial area? Such simple research can ownself do..

 

[Hyruga]

W. Grand la.

Just the name alone owns all.

Plus HSR should be back soon, then price will increase further.

Plus new mrt line in Jurong Regional line + cross island line

 

[annetyu]

W. Grand la.

Just the name alone owns all.

Plus HSR should be back soon, then price will increase further.

Plus new mrt line in Jurong Regional line + cross island line

Jurong east is going to be a XXXXX when HSR is up. Imagine all the people from up there flooding your town... I cannot imagine and will stay far far away...

Has our 2nd CBD materialized yet and thriving?

 

[Forever84]

I think the cross island line will land around the development area.

Price is good for a CDL development, the contractor also not your typical China construction. I believe quality will be there. Layout also functional and the interior stuff is actually quite good.

 

[annetyu]

I think the cross island line will land around the development area.

Price is good for a CDL development, the contractor also not your typical China construction. I believe quality will be there. Layout also functional and the interior stuff is actually quite good.

Yes its good and you revealed the hidden gem.

ANother good thing is that it is not too close to the HSR.

 

[Forever84]

Another point, noticed the GR non master rooms is pretty small, the other bedrooms you notice the beds are sticking to window, means it more suited for single bed than queen.

Balcony very big... Suck money

 

[Hyruga]

Jurong east is going to be a XXXXX when HSR is up. Imagine all the people from up there flooding your town... I cannot imagine and will stay far far away...

Has our 2nd CBD materialized yet and thriving?

HSR tickets will likely be as high as airfare tickets from Malaysia to Sing. So most travellers will be quite affluent.

Flood? Changi probably will handle 100x more passengers than HSR will so in that case you can worry more about condos in the east. But why harp on the negatives? How many more tenants will there be?

You can always buy on the hype

 

[annetyu]

HSR tickets will likely be as high as airfare tickets from Malaysia to Sing. So most travellers will be quite affluent.

Flood? Changi probably will handle 100x more passengers than HSR will so in that case you can worry more about condos in the east. But why harp on the negatives? How many more tenants will there be?

You can always buy on the hype

Sure, price appreciation is all about market sentiments.

However, the train is a train to Malaysia not US, UK or Australia. No offense, but you all know what kind of ppl exist up there.. Hopefully HSR ticket is priced high enough but is unlikely as Mahathir is trying to make it cheap for his people...

 

[Hyruga]

https://www.99.co/blog/singapore/hdb-punggol-pasir-gudang/

Something in the air
Because of the concentration of petrochemical activities in Pasir Gudang, Singaporeans living in the north-east have at various times reported “chemical smells”. What they are smelling is actually a mixture of sulfur dioxide and volatile organic compounds (VOCs).

...

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), “benzene is carcinogenic to humans, and no safe level of exposure can be recommended”.

 

[Wimsey]

Hi guys
What are your thoughts on

Kandis Residences
The Jovell
Parc Botannia
RiverFront Residences
The Essence
The Tapestry
Treasure at tampiness
Whistler Grand

In terms of residence vs investment??

A lot depends, really, on your objectives. For your own stay (if you take out the investment element completely), then almost all of them are fine if you like it and if you like the neighbourhood. I personally won't recommend Tapestry for example (Tampines Ave 10 a lot of trucks going by), but it is subjective, and someone else may like the location. Or Treasure - 2200 units there. Again, some may like the fact that it's so big and got so many facilities and the monthly maintenance is so low, but others may shudder at having to live cheek by jowl with 2200 other units.

If I had to pick my preferences as a residence from the above list, I would take either Essence (quiet neighbourhood and will have an MRT station within about 7 minutes walk I think) or probably Treasure at Tampines (but I would pick a unit in the quietest corner I can find), and enjoy all its other advantages.

From an investment perspective, probably the same 2 choices from the above list, with Treasure coming out ahead here. Even if you need to walk 9 minutes to get to the MRT station, at least it is walkable. And Tampines still beats Hougang or Sengkang for rentability.

But a lot also comes down to budget. Of course the projects above are all among the cheapest new launches, but if buying from a purely investment angle, then it might make sense to look at other new launches, budget permitting. For example, Sky Everton. Yes, it is around $2,550 PSF, but you might be able to get higher rental from a one bedder at Sky Everton than from a 3 bedder at Riverfront Residences, assuming both cost the same. And Sky Everton has probably more upside potential (being freehold and within 3 minutes walk from Cantonment MRT station) and likely can find better quality tenants. Or if you don't want to stretch above $1M, then Parc Colonial would be a better bet. It's got all the advantages of a mixed development (mall and MRT on doorstep) without the drawbacks. Lots of people want the convenience, but don't necessarily want to live on top of a mall. And Parc Colonial will be easier to enbloc in 30 years time then Woodleigh Residences.

 

[shin7829]

A lot depends, really, on your objectives. For your own stay (if you take out the investment element completely), then almost all of them are fine if you like it and if you like the neighbourhood. I personally won't recommend Tapestry for example (Tampines Ave 10 a lot of trucks going by), but it is subjective, and someone else may like the location. Or Treasure - 2200 units there. Again, some may like the fact that it's so big and got so many facilities and the monthly maintenance is so low, but others may shudder at having to live cheek by jowl with 2200 other units.

If I had to pick my preferences as a residence from the above list, I would take either Essence (quiet neighbourhood and will have an MRT station within about 7 minutes walk I think) or probably Treasure at Tampines (but I would pick a unit in the quietest corner I can find), and enjoy all its other advantages.

From an investment perspective, probably the same 2 choices from the above list, with Treasure coming out ahead here. Even if you need to walk 9 minutes to get to the MRT station, at least it is walkable. And Tampines still beats Hougang or Sengkang for rentability.

But a lot also comes down to budget. Of course the projects above are all among the cheapest new launches, but if buying from a purely investment angle, then it might make sense to look at other new launches, budget permitting. For example, Sky Everton. Yes, it is around $2,550 PSF, but you might be able to get higher rental from a one bedder at Sky Everton than from a 3 bedder at Riverfront Residences, assuming both cost the same. And Sky Everton has probably more upside potential (being freehold and within 3 minutes walk from Cantonment MRT station) and likely can find better quality tenants. Or if you don't want to stretch above $1M, then Parc Colonial would be a better bet. It's got all the advantages of a mixed development (mall and MRT on doorstep) without the drawbacks. Lots of people want the convenience, but don't necessarily want to live on top of a mall. And Parc Colonial will be easier to enbloc in 30 years time then Woodleigh Residences.

Thanks for the detailed advise.
I have taken my pick.

 

[r-federer]

I have stayed in clementi all my life and also emotionally attached to w.grand if its about location. but after i recce the area... there is really no amenities nearby...

i am the kind who prefer to walk down to a coffeeshop/hawker on a daily basis and the walk to west coast market or teban is so damn far... if stay there really need a car and shuttle bus only provided to jurong east. so i opted out. in the end i chose another development because its near my in-laws.