Thread all abt ROLEX - Part 2

[raidorz]

serious? like that i also want go put my name for 4500v black dial le lol

If you want the watch then regardless of the market value, just put mah. Hahaha

 

[Sarp0li]

If you want the watch then regardless of the market value, just put mah. Hahaha

No la I never bother cause I hear say a lot of times that the queue damn long..up to years haha

 

[Damienic]

No la I never bother cause I hear say a lot of times that the queue damn long..up to years haha

Indeed the person at VC boutique told me the queue is so long that the estimated wait time for the black is 3-5 years. For the blue, it’s 5-8 years. But of course their estimation should be based on how many people are formally in the queue and not taking into account some people might turn down when it’s their turn to collect.

 

[gaoxing84]

serious? like that i also want go put my name for 4500v black dial le lol

lol my friend got 1 jan 2023 for 4k less than retail

 

[gaoxing84]

vacheron is not for everyone (cause not as satki as AP and Patek). but out of the holy trinity, it's the most value for money (how often you get 3 strap options for a watch), solid finishing, maybe even better than AP and Patek at the same price range and produce the least amount of watches each year.

 

[Damienic]

vacheron is not for everyone (cause not as satki as AP and Patek). but out of the holy trinity, it's the most value for money (how often you get 3 strap options for a watch), solid finishing, maybe even better than AP and Patek at the same price range and produce the least amount of watches each year.

You mean if you buy the bracelet version, they also throw in a leather and rubber strap? Astonished to learn that they produced only 20000 watches in a year.

 

[raidorz]

You mean if you buy the bracelet version, they also throw in a leather and rubber strap? Astonished to learn that they produced only 20000 watches in a year.

For VCO, yes. Not for the Fiftysix

 

[official_t_atelier]

vacheron is not for everyone (cause not as satki as AP and Patek). but out of the holy trinity, it's the most value for money (how often you get 3 strap options for a watch), solid finishing, maybe even better than AP and Patek at the same price range and produce the least amount of watches each year.

Lol and not forgetting the Geneva seal maybe that’s why production is lower lol..

 

[gaoxing84]

You mean if you buy the bracelet version, they also throw in a leather and rubber strap? Astonished to learn that they produced only 20000 watches in a year.

Sometimes less.
Only for the overseas they give 3 options.
Problem with the bracelet for me is that it's not tapered nicely. If not it would be solid. I am permanently on its rubber strap.

 

[gaoxing84]

For VCO, yes. Not for the Fiftysix

The 56 is nice on leather. Other thing else cmi

 

[raidorz]

The 56 is nice on leather. Other thing else cmi

I agree. Waiting for mine wooooo

 

[raidorz]

Lol and not forgetting the Geneva seal maybe that’s why production is lower lol..

Not on the base Fiftysix though

 

[Damienic]

I agree. Waiting for mine wooooo

You ordered the fifty six? Which variant?

 

[official_t_atelier]

Not on the base Fiftysix though

Yup unfortunately..The entire collection is Hall mark of Geneva excluding the 4600E/A (time and date only)..lol

 

[raidorz]

You ordered the fifty six? Which variant?

4600E with the blue dial. Basic haha.

 

[Damienic]

4600E with the blue dial. Basic haha.

Not bad, this particular shade of blue quite classy

 

[relaxonecorner]

serious? like that i also want go put my name for 4500v black dial le lol

You can try carousell. Like GX said below rrp

 

[Mountaindwarf]

Maybe I don’t understand high horology but those three hand basic models from VC and AP have very low specs compared to Rolex? Like no hacking seconds, low pr, 50 wr for sport model, and even low accuracy on vco. Why is that?

 

[gaoxing84]

Maybe I don’t understand high horology but those three hand basic models from VC and AP have very low specs compared to Rolex? Like no hacking seconds, low pr, 50 wr for sport model, and even low accuracy on vco. Why is that?

because history
15202, 5711 and 222 uses old JLC movement 920 (https://revolutionwatch.com/i-am-legend-the-jaeger-lecoultre-calibre-920/)
legendary movement, slim and workhourse
you want stronger PR? it will have to be thicker
you want WR, it will be thicker

they are "sports" watch but not a diver. sport meant the look is sporty, not necessarily a tool watch to be used in "extreme" condition.

but since AP 16202st, 5811 - they are using their inhouse movement which helps with PR and WR, hacking seconds

if you want to really compare specs, a seiko 5 is better than any of those old movements lol

 

[Sarp0li]

because history
15202, 5711 and 222 uses old JLC movement 920 (https://revolutionwatch.com/i-am-legend-the-jaeger-lecoultre-calibre-920/)
legendary movement, slim and workhourse
you want stronger PR? it will have to be thicker
you want WR, it will be thicker

they are "sports" watch but not a diver. sport meant the look is sporty, not necessarily a tool watch to be used in "extreme" condition.

but since AP 16202st, 5811 - they are using their inhouse movement which helps with PR and WR, hacking seconds

if you want to really compare specs, a seiko 5 is better than any of those old movements lol

This is like non haute horologists asking why Simplicity is worth a 4-5rm HDB