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Hello, recently my desktop start to give problem.

Last time play COD still quite smooth all this. Then recently Crash Liao then keep lagging in game although my settings is the same. Then keep crash after two-three games but lagging badly in game

Usage more to RPG games and FPS game. ;)

MOBO: z370M
CPU: i5-8400
GPU: gtx 1050 Ti
Ram: 16GB

Thinking to get a change
CPU: i5-9600K / AMD? But not sure which one
GPU: rtx 2070 Super

Issit better? But I abit worry my mobo cannot handle if were to change? Any recommendations?? Thanks in advance!! :)
 

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just upgrade the GPU will do

CPU/Motherboard no point.

also what's your PSU?
 

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you are playing the latest CoD WarZone?

this new one released in 2020 requires more system resources
 

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Hello, recently my desktop start to give problem.

Last time play COD still quite smooth all this. Then recently Crash Liao then keep lagging in game although my settings is the same. Then keep crash after two-three games but lagging badly in game

Usage more to RPG games and FPS game. ;)

MOBO: z370M
CPU: i5-8400
GPU: gtx 1050 Ti
Ram: 16GB

Thinking to get a change
CPU: i5-9600K / AMD? But not sure which one
GPU: rtx 2070 Super

Issit better? But I abit worry my mobo cannot handle if were to change? Any recommendations?? Thanks in advance!! :)

Both processors are using the same socket you can use the same motherboard. It would seem that you need to identify the root cause. It is possible then even changing your CPU and GPU might not fix the issue if either one is not the root cause. Sometimes it could just be the harddisk, a ram issue or a setting in bios/windows.
 

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By the looks of things your system should have been purchased somewhere in the last quarter of 2017 or later. Therefore I would not bother upgrading the CPU/motherboard. I see that your motherboard can support up to 4000MHz DDR4!

As someone else suggested you need to troubleshoot the issue as there is obviously something that is failing and I have a strong suspicion that its the GPU.

What I would do if I was you is remove your GPU and use the in-built GPU and then stress test the system. IF the system is responsive and no issues observed then it confirms that its the GPU. In that case just go n buy a good GPU that addresses your requirements :s22:

IF its still acting up, then next thing to try is removing 1 stick of RAM assuming that your using a RAM KIT and stress test again. Repeat for the other stick to see if you are able to reproduce the lagging issues.

Hope this helps and let us know how you get on with your troubleshooting.

Last thing,.. update your profile with what your currently running as it helps people advise :)
 

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Hello, recently my desktop start to give problem.

Last time play COD still quite smooth all this. Then recently Crash Liao then keep lagging in game although my settings is the same. Then keep crash after two-three games but lagging badly in game

Usage more to RPG games and FPS game. ;)

MOBO: z370M
CPU: i5-8400
GPU: gtx 1050 Ti
Ram: 16GB

Thinking to get a change
CPU: i5-9600K / AMD? But not sure which one
GPU: rtx 2070 Super

Issit better? But I abit worry my mobo cannot handle if were to change? Any recommendations?? Thanks in advance!! :)

before do anything .. unused programs or files delete then re-apply new thermal paste on your cpu, if your cpu cooler is AIO closed loop then could be cpu cooler le.. if you have stock fans laying around can try use stock fan see will improve a bit not .. if can then just change cooler

problem with AIO is if the pump become weak, your cpu heats up and you will lag and might crash

another things to take note is maybe hdd too much things cluttered , can try disk defrag.. and lastly try clean up pc dust.. too much heat also will make your computer lag

update your drivers also before try to buy new parts..
 
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just upgrade the GPU will do

CPU/Motherboard no point.

also what's your PSU?

GPU? RTX 2070.. my mobo/cpu can handle it?

you are playing the latest CoD WarZone?

this new one released in 2020 requires more system resources

yes.. which my friend quite surprise my current setup still can last.. lol

Both processors are using the same socket you can use the same motherboard. It would seem that you need to identify the root cause. It is possible then even changing your CPU and GPU might not fix the issue if either one is not the root cause. Sometimes it could just be the harddisk, a ram issue or a setting in bios/windows.

is there like a step for me to check?? sorry hardly will touch on bios settings

By the looks of things your system should have been purchased somewhere in the last quarter of 2017 or later. Therefore I would not bother upgrading the CPU/motherboard. I see that your motherboard can support up to 4000MHz DDR4!

As someone else suggested you need to troubleshoot the issue as there is obviously something that is failing and I have a strong suspicion that its the GPU.

What I would do if I was you is remove your GPU and use the in-built GPU and then stress test the system. IF the system is responsive and no issues observed then it confirms that its the GPU. In that case just go n buy a good GPU that addresses your requirements :s22:

IF its still acting up, then next thing to try is removing 1 stick of RAM assuming that your using a RAM KIT and stress test again. Repeat for the other stick to see if you are able to reproduce the lagging issues.

Hope this helps and let us know how you get on with your troubleshooting.

Last thing,.. update your profile with what your currently running as it helps people advise :)

yea that's right.. about that timing. you mean my cpu also able to sustain my games?
so i use my in-built gpu to test for my games? if it's not crash or something means most likely gpu??
sorry i abit noob when come to do troubleshooting..
for RAM i know how to test. so still not so bad.

before do anything .. unused programs or files delete then re-apply new thermal paste on your cpu, if your cpu cooler is AIO closed loop then could be cpu cooler le.. if you have stock fans laying around can try use stock fan see will improve a bit not .. if can then just change cooler

problem with AIO is if the pump become weak, your cpu heats up and you will lag and might crash

another things to take note is maybe hdd too much things cluttered , can try disk defrag.. and lastly try clean up pc dust.. too much heat also will make your computer lag

update your drivers also before try to buy new parts..

im using this h80i, was told i no need to change anything to it?? correct me if im wrong.

to be honest, cause after i clean my pc up dust free they start giving me problem.. lol
 

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im using this h80i, was told i no need to change anything to it?? correct me if im wrong.

to be honest, cause after i clean my pc up dust free they start giving me problem.. lol

even you clean properly and no speck dust.. the pump failing your AIO cooler cannot keep up the demand of cooling your cpu properly and will lag your computer.. try check with cpu-z de temp .. anything past 50 degree at idle then is something wrong with your cooler le

i see quite a few case of my friends all use AIO close loop.. pc lag or even overheat after a few years of using due to AIO cooler..
 

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So far I see the temp never pass 50 so I presume should be safe..?

even you clean properly and no speck dust.. the pump failing your AIO cooler cannot keep up the demand of cooling your cpu properly and will lag your computer.. try check with cpu-z de temp .. anything past 50 degree at idle then is something wrong with your cooler le

i see quite a few case of my friends all use AIO close loop.. pc lag or even overheat after a few years of using due to AIO cooler..
 

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how old is your h80i?

maybe check

aio/pump unit mounted properly? tightened enough?

thermal paste dried up?

check your gpu temps too. how old is your gpu? maybe thermal paste dried up?
 

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I'm still using a 6700k OCed to 4.6Ghz with 2070 super. Getting 120fps with settings on high in Warzone - 1440p. I also wanna upgrade but waiting for AlderLake(10nm) next year with next gen tech like pcie4 and ddr5.
 

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yea that's right.. about that timing. you mean my cpu also able to sustain my games?
so i use my in-built gpu to test for my games? if it's not crash or something means most likely gpu??
sorry i abit noob when come to do troubleshooting..
for RAM i know how to test. so still not so bad.

I would try running some stress test tools on the PC to push the CPU and see if it encounters any problems (such as AIDA64). There are other tools listed on this website https://beebom.com/best-tools-stress-test-cpu/

You can also try some light gaming as the in-built GPU is not going to be capable of high resolution but the goal is to try and reproduce this "lag" you mention which might be CPU related - stress test above should be able to uncover that.
 

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3 to 4 years I Guess?
Hmm maybe might need to check whether dried up bo..

Gpu about 3years or less

how old is your h80i?

maybe check

aio/pump unit mounted properly? tightened enough?

thermal paste dried up?

check your gpu temps too. how old is your gpu? maybe thermal paste dried up?
 

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Okie I will try tonight see okie anot

I would try running some stress test tools on the PC to push the CPU and see if it encounters any problems (such as AIDA64). There are other tools listed on this website https://beebom.com/best-tools-stress-test-cpu/

You can also try some light gaming as the in-built GPU is not going to be capable of high resolution but the goal is to try and reproduce this "lag" you mention which might be CPU related - stress test above should be able to uncover that.
 

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Brother I also surprised your current GPU can take that 2020 game :s13:

GPU? RTX 2070.. my mobo/cpu can handle it?



yes.. which my friend quite surprise my current setup still can last.. lol



is there like a step for me to check?? sorry hardly will touch on bios settings



yea that's right.. about that timing. you mean my cpu also able to sustain my games?
so i use my in-built gpu to test for my games? if it's not crash or something means most likely gpu??
sorry i abit noob when come to do troubleshooting..
for RAM i know how to test. so still not so bad.



im using this h80i, was told i no need to change anything to it?? correct me if im wrong.

to be honest, cause after i clean my pc up dust free they start giving me problem.. lol
 

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I would try running some stress test tools on the PC to push the CPU and see if it encounters any problems (such as AIDA64). There are other tools listed on this website https://beebom.com/best-tools-stress-test-cpu/

You can also try some light gaming as the in-built GPU is not going to be capable of high resolution but the goal is to try and reproduce this "lag" you mention which might be CPU related - stress test above should be able to uncover that.

i try using the benchmarks website

UserBenchmarks:
CPU: Intel Core i5-8400 - 88.3%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti - 31%
SSD: SanDisk Ultra Plus 256GB - 74.3%
SSD: Sandisk PLUS 1000GB - 46.1%
HDD: WD Blue 1TB (2012) - 64.6%
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2666 C16 2x8GB - 74.1%
MBD: Gigabyte GA-Z370M D3H-CF
 

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i try using the benchmarks website

UserBenchmarks:
CPU: Intel Core i5-8400 - 88.3%
GPU: Nvidia GTX 1050-Ti - 31%
SSD: SanDisk Ultra Plus 256GB - 74.3%
SSD: Sandisk PLUS 1000GB - 46.1%
HDD: WD Blue 1TB (2012) - 64.6%
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 2666 C16 2x8GB - 74.1%
MBD: Gigabyte GA-Z370M D3H-CF

Take my advise, don't use this website anymore.
You can't trust it when a website tells you Ryzen 3600 is 1% better than an i3-9100 :s8:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/userbenchmark-benchmark-change-criticism-amd-intel,40032.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel...spite-overall-lower-test-scores.461737.0.html
 

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Take my advise, don't use this website anymore.
You can't trust it when a website tells you Ryzen 3600 is 1% better than an i3-9100 :s8:

https://www.tomshardware.com/news/userbenchmark-benchmark-change-criticism-amd-intel,40032.html
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Intel...spite-overall-lower-test-scores.461737.0.html

soo i try using this OCCT program to cod:warzone and 3 matches on multiplayer..

this the result i get...

mgXFXFC
 
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