UNISIM or MDIS

[missimple]

Hello Guys,

I am torn between the two school UNISIM BSc Marketing and MDIS Bachelor of Business and Marketing by University of Sunderland.

This UNISIM will take 3 years for me to complete but MDIS is only 1 year! Because I will be planning to study part-time I do want a fast degree.

Just thought you guys can give advise which to choose.

Thanks!

 

[geekboy]

You got money then take MDIS lor.

 

[rollbread]

To be honest, if there's 2 person going for the interview, one is with sim 2 years degree and another with mdis 1 year degree. I will choose the sim one.

How many modules can you take and how much you can learn in 1year? If you want then go for global sim course instead of mdis. In Singapore everyone knows that fast don't equal to good quality. Just my opinion.

 

[CarlFTC]

To be honest, if there's 2 person going for the interview, one is with sim 2 years degree and another with mdis 1 year degree. I will choose the sim one.

How many modules can you take and how much you can learn in 1year? If you want then go for global sim course instead of mdis. In Singapore everyone knows that fast don't equal to good quality. Just my opinion.

Sim global is not unisim, unisim will take 3 years.

But nevertheless, i do agree unisim is better. Now they are like the next best alternative to nus ntu smu. They are also appointed by moe to kickstart the applied degree framework with sit. You will benefit and learn much more with their connections to industries.

 

[Kyoji83]

However MOE do not consider fresh graduate from UniSIM for their GEO1 position speak a lot for their action.

Sim global is not unisim, unisim will take 3 years.

But nevertheless, i do agree unisim is better. Now they are like the next best alternative to nus ntu smu. They are also appointed by moe to kickstart the applied degree framework with sit. You will benefit and learn much more with their connections to industries.

 

[rollbread]

Sim global is not unisim, unisim will take 3 years.

But nevertheless, i do agree unisim is better. Now they are like the next best alternative to nus ntu smu. They are also appointed by moe to kickstart the applied degree framework with sit. You will benefit and learn much more with their connections to industries.

Yup, unisim and sim global is different. So ts shouldn't compare unisim and mdis. If he want DL degree than I think sim global is better than mdis...

 

[Havok_ex]

However MOE do not consider fresh graduate from UniSIM for their GEO1 position speak a lot for their action.

Maybe not yet? I mean, they literally JUST declared UniSIM a 'local' uni a year or two ago right? Even SMU took a few years to get to where it is now. I still remember back then when SMU was treated like a second rate university on par with SIM. But now its come so far to be on par with NUS. But it didnt happen overnight. It took a few years before it was possible.

 

[CarlFTC]

However MOE do not consider fresh graduate from UniSIM for their GEO1 position speak a lot for their action.

I dunno abt this so geo1 only for nus ntu smu?

I guess also prob unisim was only officially declared 6th uni late last year. Alot of work to be done now, somemore they are going to offer full time progs to fresh a lvl and poly grads, this i think need alot of admin work between unisim and moe.

Frankly speaking i had thought that unisim will be rather lax and lenient to working adults but apparently not. One of my buddies is taking bsc finance and he has already received an academic warning from the uni. He said his faculty had actually failed more than 50% of his cohort before for an open book exams and their exams are getting increasingly harder. He also dun like the rule that they hv to pass exam as requirement no matter how well they hv done for other components. I guess they are trying to 'weed out' the weaker students now since they dun hv to take in any tom dick and harry anymore for profits if theres govt support.

 

[prinnydo0d]

MDIS Graduate here. There are a lot more factors to consider other than the time spent acquiring the degree. Have you done any research into the actual Universities, not MDIS vs UNISIM but UNISIM vs the University of Sunderland?

To be honest, if there's 2 person going for the interview, one is with sim 2 years degree and another with mdis 1 year degree. I will choose the sim one.

How many modules can you take and how much you can learn in 1year? If you want then go for global sim course instead of mdis. In Singapore everyone knows that fast don't equal to good quality. Just my opinion.

I respectfully disagree. Fast track degrees often provide the same modular length as regular degrees. For example, I did a Mass Communications degree from OCU (under MDIS.) I did the full number of modules a student at the actual american campus at OCU would have done, but in half the time. This is because of the course structure that allowed me to complete my degree module by module, which I frankly enjoyed because it meant I only had to concentrate on one subject at once, instead of worrying about "exam week" and having to study for 5 different subjects at once.

What I'm trying to say is that my degree was done more quickly, but it was in no way inferior to a degree obtained through the actual University; my teachers were all staff from America flown in to teach each module, so even then I got the benefits of an overseas degree while studying in Singapore. Even if you study in Australia, a lot of their degrees can be completed in a year or two and I don't think they are seen as being inferior degrees. How desirable you are on your resume depends on a lot of other factors, such as doing internships or having prior work experience. Some of my classmates find it difficult to even get a job interview, while others get offers coming out of their ears, despite having the same degree.

I would recommend going down and speaking with the school consultants to find out more. Also, my personal opinion as an MDIS student is that it was a surprisingly pleasant experience doing my degree with them

 

[kheng86]

are u referring to this degree?
Academic Programmes

as u can see, u only take 6 modules. comparing with a typical 3-year-degree which consists of 20+ modules, this 1 year degree is as useless as ever (sorry, it's only my opinion).

 

[prinnydo0d]

It says "top-up" at the top of the page... meaning that you are doing less modules for a reason. Normally to gain entry into such courses requires certain requirements, so not just anyone with any old diploma can get this degree in a year.

If your goal is to ready study part-time and get a quick degree, then it's at least worth finding out more about this degree regardless. Don't write stuff off as useless till you've done thorough research Picking a degree to do is a serious life choice so do your own research and be absolutely sure before making a decision.

 

[Havok_ex]

Nope, I too believe that 1 year degrees are pretty much useless. No matter the pre-requisite. 2 years overloaded is fine. But 1 year might as well dont take. Not gonna learn much and sounds more like a short-cut degree than anything else. Trust me, in life, no such thing as a short-cut. When you do something, do it properly, dont do things 'half-****' like they say in the army.

 

[rollbread]

I respectfully disagree. Fast track degrees often provide the same modular length as regular degrees. For example, I did a Mass Communications degree from OCU (under MDIS.) I did the full number of modules a student at the actual american campus at OCU would have done, but in half the time. This is because of the course structure that allowed me to complete my degree module by module, which I frankly enjoyed because it meant I only had to concentrate on one subject at once, instead of worrying about "exam week" and having to study for 5 different subjects at once.

What I'm trying to say is that my degree was done more quickly, but it was in no way inferior to a degree obtained through the actual University; my teachers were all staff from America flown in to teach each module, so even then I got the benefits of an overseas degree while studying in Singapore. Even if you study in Australia, a lot of their degrees can be completed in a year or two and I don't think they are seen as being inferior degrees. How desirable you are on your resume depends on a lot of other factors, such as doing internships or having prior work experience. Some of my classmates find it difficult to even get a job interview, while others get offers coming out of their ears, despite having the same degree.

Hi, I'm not doubting what you said but I'm just curious how many modules did you take and how does it works? Is it like you take one module by one module?


But for the other top-up degree I think it quite useless. Cuz it says other diploma from local poly can apply so meaning any local diploma also can take the top-up degree. Its weird if a engineering diploma student take the top-up degree and just need to take 6 modules to get the Business degree. I really doubt how much he can learn from the 6 modules.

 

[CarlFTC]

I respectfully disagree. Fast track degrees often provide the same modular length as regular degrees. For example, I did a Mass Communications degree from OCU (under MDIS.) I did the full number of modules a student at the actual american campus at OCU would have done, but in half the time. This is because of the course structure that allowed me to complete my degree module by module, which I frankly enjoyed because it meant I only had to concentrate on one subject at once, instead of worrying about "exam week" and having to study for 5 different subjects at once.

What I'm trying to say is that my degree was done more quickly, but it was in no way inferior to a degree obtained through the actual University; my teachers were all staff from America flown in to teach each module, so even then I got the benefits of an overseas degree while studying in Singapore. Even if you study in Australia, a lot of their degrees can be completed in a year or two and I don't think they are seen as being inferior degrees. How desirable you are on your resume depends on a lot of other factors, such as doing internships or having prior work experience. Some of my classmates find it difficult to even get a job interview, while others get offers coming out of their ears, despite having the same degree.

I would recommend going down and speaking with the school consultants to find out more. Also, my personal opinion as an MDIS student is that it was a surprisingly pleasant experience doing my degree with them

abit different, OCU mass comm degree is known and recognised in the industry. but i dun think anyone has heard of sunderland at all.

if wanna study biz at mdis, i think only bradford is worth it. bradford biz is triple-accredited and they too require students to complete in 3 years and 2 years for biz dip poly grads.

 

[prinnydo0d]

Nope, I too believe that 1 year degrees are pretty much useless. No matter the pre-requisite. 2 years overloaded is fine. But 1 year might as well dont take. Not gonna learn much and sounds more like a short-cut degree than anything else. Trust me, in life, no such thing as a short-cut. When you do something, do it properly, dont do things 'half-****' like they say in the army.

There are such things as shortcuts. There are multiple examples of shortcuts that work and don't only have any side effects. If taking a car gets me from point A to B faster than walking, I'm not gonna rationalize that walking is a better option because "I want to do things properly, not half a**ed". This doesn't deduct from your point at all, I'm sorry I just felt like pointing out the logical fallacy.

Cuz it says other diploma from local poly can apply so meaning any local diploma also can take the top-up degree. Its weird if a engineering diploma student take the top-up degree and just need to take 6 modules to get the Business degree.

As far as I know, top-up programmes have more specific criteria than that. They deduct modules based on whether or not you have done similar modules in the past, and are eligibility-based. Again, find out more directly from the school; for all you know you might not be eligible for this programme to begin with.

I think you guys are misinterpreting my point; I am not saying "Go study at MDIS because faster is better!" I'm saying that you should weigh your options carefully. Personally, graduating sooner than all my peers had its own merits; I was in the workforce a year sooner than many guys my age, take my monthly salary and multiply it by 13(bonus included), that's no small sum. Unless you graduate and are earning 30-40% more than me right from day one, you're not going to be beating me in earning for a long time, and that's excluding the fact that I'm getting pay increments and more work experience, which so many bosses want these days. IMO work experience is more important than the caliber of your degree; Go on jobscentral or jobsdb, yes you will see many jobs asking for people with "good degrees" but almost all jobs want people with at least 1-2 years work experience, even for entry-level jobs. It's a really weird market right now.

Hi, I'm not doubting what you said but I'm just curious how many modules did you take and how does it works? Is it like you take one module by one module?

I did mass comm so it's not really related but... I can't remember how many modules I did (same number as offered in the american degree though) but yeah we did the modules one by one. It was pretty intensive, 9 days of classes 5 hours a day non-stop, followed by project work and exam. Whole thing would last about a month, and then we would move onto the next module, so on so forth. I have NO idea how the Sunderland module system goes, or anything regarding the course, and really you shouldn't really even mention MDIS in this debate because it's more about what Sunderland has to offer, not MDIS. MDIS is just a middleman.

 

[missimple]

are u referring to this degree?
Academic Programmes

as u can see, u only take 6 modules. comparing with a typical 3-year-degree which consists of 20+ modules, this 1 year degree is as useless as ever (sorry, it's only my opinion).

Yes this is the course I'm talking about. I do agree that maybe within 1-year you can't learn as much as those 3-years. But if you look at the UNISIM modules they teach from foundation. Only the 2nd-3rd you are going into real Marketing modules.

Therefore I don't think it's consider useless, simply it is straight to the point. Perhaps if you do not have business background topics about business you might not understand. But it's our own part to study hard and understand them.

I also agree UNISIM is more recognized, but it is also not as comparable with other local Uni. If a company can take UNISIM I don't understand why they can't take UOS.

 

[rollbread]

Yes this is the course I'm talking about. I do agree that maybe within 1-year you can't learn as much as those 3-years. But if you look at the UNISIM modules they teach from foundation. Only the 2nd-3rd you are going into real Marketing modules.

Therefore I don't think it's consider useless, simply it is straight to the point. Perhaps if you do not have business background topics about business you might not understand. But it's our own part to study hard and understand them.

I also agree UNISIM is more recognized, but it is also not as comparable with other local Uni. If a company can take UNISIM I don't understand why they can't take UOS.

But I think u had mix up with the degrees. Unisim is not Distant learning degrees, its another category. So if you want to compare should compare between Global sim and MDIS.

Hope you won't get offended but there's no such thing as straight to the point. It's either you take more modules and learn more; or lesser modules and learn lesser stuff. It's these extra stuff you learnt that adds more value to the cert.

On another note, after you graduated and you applied for a new job. Do you think the HR will employ the candidate with 2 years of study or another person who study only 1 year?

 

[CarlFTC]

If a company can take UNISIM I don't understand why they can't take UOS.

LOL how did you come to this conclusion? in my opinion, i honestly think a company that initially only takes nus ntu smu grads will now start to seriously consider unisim (and sit) grads, not taking into acct other factors yet. govt backing will have an impact, realistically this is how the local situation is like. i think even sim-uol/rmit grads will stand better chances than sunderland.

anw it seems like you have already convinced yourself and make a decision. focus on doing well then. good luck.

 

[Kyoji83]

Let hope that UniSIM is recognize by MOE for the post of GEO1 in the near future. =)

I dunno abt this so geo1 only for nus ntu smu?

I guess also prob unisim was only officially declared 6th uni late last year. Alot of work to be done now, somemore they are going to offer full time progs to fresh a lvl and poly grads, this i think need alot of admin work between unisim and moe.

Frankly speaking i had thought that unisim will be rather lax and lenient to working adults but apparently not. One of my buddies is taking bsc finance and he has already received an academic warning from the uni. He said his faculty had actually failed more than 50% of his cohort before for an open book exams and their exams are getting increasingly harder. He also dun like the rule that they hv to pass exam as requirement no matter how well they hv done for other components. I guess they are trying to 'weed out' the weaker students now since they dun hv to take in any tom dick and harry anymore for profits if theres govt support.

Maybe not yet? I mean, they literally JUST declared UniSIM a 'local' uni a year or two ago right? Even SMU took a few years to get to where it is now. I still remember back then when SMU was treated like a second rate university on par with SIM. But now its come so far to be on par with NUS. But it didnt happen overnight. It took a few years before it was possible.

 

[Kyoji83]

1) I used to work as HR & graduate from MDIS-Bradford.

2) UK Uni mostly offer a 3 years direct Hons degree for business related course (exclude IA year). 1 year have 3 terms & each term have 3 to 4 modules. So I consider MDIS-Sunderland is a 2 terms (8 months) course instead of a year course.

3) MDIS-Sunderland maybe a Business and Marketing degree but I consider it only a Marketing degree because graduate do not have knowledge like accounting which a business graduate should know.

4) If I am given an option to recruit fresh graduate between MDIS-Sunderland & UniSIM, I will choice UniSIM base on factor that the amount of modules they learn will help them to be more competent to pass their OJT. To add on, these days you are not task to do only your main job but you are multitasks which is the reason why skill & knowledge is important when come to hire fresh graduate.

5) With a 1 year degree duration, you maybe hire with a Dip salary in a SME while your friend with a 2 years degree maybe hire with a degree salary in MNC. You may have a head start compare with your friend but you may end up getting the same or lower amount of money when you have 2 years of experience while your friend have only 1 year of experience.