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What do u need tour guide for at Niagara Falls? That area is like orchard rd, u need guide? U walk down to the falls area and u pretty much done!
U can do behind the falls, there will be guide to go down. If u joint tour that guide will just hand u off to the other guide.

U can take Amtrak it's long but not affected by weather.
Will be a little walk from station to tourist attraction but not that far.
Tour bus usually visit usa side, u want to go Canada side.

If u don't drive or all wanna drink can go for such tour
Home - Grape Escape Wine Tours in Niagara on the Lake

Hi,

Thanks. Because everything is in a package! I am just being lazy :D

If i am taking Amtrak, does this sound feasible?

Take amtrak from New York Penn Station to Nigara Falls ON (I suppose ON is on canada side?)
Reach station, take a cab to Nigara Fall?
Spend 2 day 1 night there
Come back by Amtrak station Nigara Falls ON to New York Penn station.

FLying there might be another option as it is faster i hope.

Anyway, does this sound feasible?

Fly to buffalo from NYC (jetblue)
Take a cab to Nigara Falls (Canada side)?
2 days 1 night
Take cab back to Buffalo
Fly back to NYC (jetblue)

is this roughly it?

thanks!
 

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flying with JetBlue is faster. Amtrak is useful if u wanna save a nite of hotel provided it offer nite train.

Via station Niagara is like 3km away from the falls.
If u stay in b&b it's like 1-2km away.

Then again jan 5th there in nyc for 2weeks, flying maybe a better option.
I fear cancelation more than delays. If that's the case train safer. U can check last jan for reference.

Jan period in time for ice wine festival if u like sweet things
https://www.niagarawinefestival.com/mobile/icewine-festival
 
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HI,

Thanks all for your help and recommendation.

I am thinking of using the following for my niagara falls trip from New York.

3-Day Bus Tour to Washington D.C., Philadelphia, Niagara Falls (Night View), Watkins Glen & Howe Caverns from New York (Super Value Tour)

Do you think it is recommended? How realiable is tours4fun.com?

Any other advice is appreciated.

Thanks!

I am going to New YOrk next Tuesday night. Will be detouring to Orlando first and back to New York for about another 11 days, 8 days tour booked with tours4fun.com that covers Niagaria. Am not sure about them too...finger crossed and hope everythings would be fine!! :s12:
 

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hi telur and patryn

is it advisable to change SGD to USD here
or in US?

im just thinking of bringing extra SGD better or already in USD?
 

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See if your bank allows u to open a U.S. Dollar account in sg

For example citibank allows to withdraw in USA free without fee for some

So in this case since u open a U.S. Dollar account. U can exchange anytime sgd to usd and set the withdrawal account to main account and withdraw usd anytime in USA if no fee involve for withdrawal.

Last but not least change back main account usd to sgd when back from oversea
 

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HI,

Thanks all for your help and recommendation.

I am thinking of using the following for my niagara falls trip from New York.

3-Day Bus Tour to Washington D.C., Philadelphia, Niagara Falls (Night View), Watkins Glen & Howe Caverns from New York (Super Value Tour)

Do you think it is recommended? How realiable is tours4fun.com?

Any other advice is appreciated.

Thanks!
never tried tours4fun before. but I've used viator before. not bad. Urban adventures was also quite fun. Urban Adventures Day Tours. Join us for the Best. Day. Ever.

hi telur and patryn

is it advisable to change SGD to USD here
or in US?

im just thinking of bringing extra SGD better or already in USD?

I think change in SG better. A friend ran out of USD here so went to a few currency exchanges. She said rate was v bad. end up borrow $ from me :o
 

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hi all,

i have narrowed down the places which i intend to go for my upcoming US trip. i intend to set aside 3 weeks during next year's july for the trip, after taking into account the flight duration, i will be travelling around for 18-19 days? i will enter via seattle, and probably exit via LAX or SFO? FYI, i will not be driving as me and my partner do not have driving license.

my preliminary itinerary:
seattle: 4 days
i will be getting the citypass which includes the following attractions:
space needle, seattle aquarium, argosy cruises harbour tour, EMP tour, the museum of flight.

on top of that, i will also visit the boeing factory, pike market, catch a musical, as well as do some outlet shopping. if time permits, i may make a trip down to mount rainer.

san francisco: 5 days
-outlet shopping
-pier 39
-golden gate bridge
-alcatraz island
-chinatown
-museum of fine arts
-lombart street
-ripley believe it or not
-union square
etc etc

las vegas: 3 days
-grand canyon
-yosemite
-MGM grand
-catch some shows
-premium outlet

los angeles: 7 days
-disneyland, disney califonia adventure, universal studios, san diego sea world: total 5 days via a citypass package.
-hollywood
-beverly hills

is my itinerary alright for a 18/19 days tour? should i scrape off the seattle trip?

from seattle ->san francisco -> las vegas ->los angeles, i have to take domestic flight?

btw, my budget is about SGD$5000-5500 per pax, including all flights, hotel stays, admission tics, land tours, shopping, meals etc, do you think it's feasible? i will most likely be taking eva air, it is about SGD$1700 per pax.
 

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hi all,

i have narrowed down the places which i intend to go for my upcoming US trip. i intend to set aside 3 weeks during next year's july for the trip, after taking into account the flight duration, i will be travelling around for 18-19 days? i will enter via seattle, and probably exit via LAX or SFO? FYI, i will not be driving as me and my partner do not have driving license.

my preliminary itinerary:
seattle: 4 days
i will be getting the citypass which includes the following attractions:
space needle, seattle aquarium, argosy cruises harbour tour, EMP tour, the museum of flight.

on top of that, i will also visit the boeing factory, pike market, catch a musical, as well as do some outlet shopping. if time permits, i may make a trip down to mount rainer.

san francisco: 5 days
-outlet shopping
-pier 39
-golden gate bridge
-alcatraz island
-chinatown
-museum of fine arts
-lombart street
-ripley believe it or not
-union square
etc etc

las vegas: 3 days
-grand canyon
-yosemite
-MGM grand
-catch some shows
-premium outlet

los angeles: 7 days
-disneyland, disney califonia adventure, universal studios, san diego sea world: total 5 days via a citypass package.
-hollywood
-beverly hills

is my itinerary alright for a 18/19 days tour? should i scrape off the seattle trip?

from seattle ->san francisco -> las vegas ->los angeles, i have to take domestic flight?

btw, my budget is about SGD$5000-5500 per pax, including all flights, hotel stays, admission tics, land tours, shopping, meals etc, do you think it's feasible? i will most likely be taking eva air, it is about SGD$1700 per pax.

if I were to include Seattle, I will fly into Seattle and leave from LA
U don't have to hit so many outlet every where u go. u will be carrying a heavy bag.
the city pass is a cheap way to visit all the touristy attractions but not all are appealing to me. its often a mix of great places and some very boring place.
Seattle is the coffee mecca of course the birth place of starbucks but do not visit starbucks unless U are a huge fan.

Say Seattle I would visit the pike market for sure. thats real interesting. space needle is chop chop 1hr thing. museum of flight is interesting. Mr Rainer is more fun than EMP tour and seattle aquarium. 4 days does it include the day u flying in?

San Francisco 5 day is alot! some ppl do it in 3. Chinatown is like our Singapore Chinatown small dont take al day. Pier 39 too. lombart street it takes more time to get there than stay there esp u dont drive. just take pics 5-10mins done.

Yosemite is in fact closer to San Franciso than Las Vegas. U missed out Big Sur. Yosemite is 1 day trip.

los angeles - Disneyland and Universal studio are 2 days done. I would skip Cali adventure and go for six flags if u are big on rides. Hollywood and Beverley is like 1 day. nothing really to see in Hollywood besides that big sign and the stars on the floor, all the homes of stars have super high walls. Beverley Hills just expensive stuff, just window shop or show u there. these 2 places 1 day. I don't see the need for 7 days. 5 days tops.

San Diego is in a different city not metro los angeles, sea world is real fun.. 1 day trip.

Vegas - 3 days with grand Canyon is right.
keep a last day around LA for big outlet shopping.
Add flight and travel.. hmm.. 19 day is about right add international flight.. yes U need 3 weeks off.

EVA air is $1700, for dates like 11 Jul and Aug 1st. yes it seem cheapest now. if U can find flights leaving on Friday nite from SG and USA leaving on Sun that would be best.
how many people going for the trip? Jul in Vega is low season super hot and cheap. The signature at mgm grand and vdara are like usd$100 for a suite or room!

Flghts from Seattle to San Fran - travel on Tue/Wed/Sat is cheapest. ~us$90, if not its like usd$110. Domestic check in bag cost money! which is why I said limit shopping tiil the last day. U don't want to pay usd$25 for each bag checked in. pull out a xls and work the numbers.

$5500 - $1700 = $3800 for the rest
 
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Southwest Airlines do not charge for the first two bags. So no worries there. But other airlines do. So need to check if southwest flies from Seattle. I know it flies between the other three cities.
For cheaper options in Vegas, if you have the time, start playing the myvegas app on FB and phone. Can earn points to redeem for free show, rooms and food. Myvegas is sponsored by MGM group, so it's a real deal. Each account can redeem three items. I got a 20% discount off "O", foc buffet at bellagio for two and lunch at mirage for two. If you not particular about the show to watch, some cirque shows like zarkana has free tickets from myvegas. Half year is good enough to accumulate points. FB accumulate faster than the phone apps.
 

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Hi,

I also concur with Patryn that it's kinda long in SF. you can finish SF in 3 days. I stayed around Union Square and finished up Chinatown in a few hours. Try out the Golden Star Vietnamese food in Chinatwon if you are sick of the western food. It's pretty good.

For Pier 39, it will just take a couple of hours only, perhaps max 2hrs. There is nothing much there.

For alcatraz island, do book your tickets in advance.

For LV, you can actually catch Ripley Believe it or Not, if you are staying around Hollywood area. If you are catching shows, I would recommend you to catch O. It's simply stunning and amazing. I don't think we will be able to catch it in SGP, cos the stage is water based. It's amazing in a way that at one moment, it's a pool and the next, it's a normal stage.. I'm still reminiscing the moments of the stage. It's really stunning. For premium outlet, you can consider heading the North outlet. There are 2 outlets ie North & South Outlet.


For LA, I think 7 days is abit long. I was there for 5 days and personally I find it pretty long. Can consider visiting the Getty Centre and Getty Villas if you are interested in the museums. For USS, the park opens from 10am to 5pm, and it's not very big.. so you will be done by 5pm..

That's all!

hi all,

i have narrowed down the places which i intend to go for my upcoming US trip. i intend to set aside 3 weeks during next year's july for the trip, after taking into account the flight duration, i will be travelling around for 18-19 days? i will enter via seattle, and probably exit via LAX or SFO? FYI, i will not be driving as me and my partner do not have driving license.

my preliminary itinerary:
seattle: 4 days
i will be getting the citypass which includes the following attractions:
space needle, seattle aquarium, argosy cruises harbour tour, EMP tour, the museum of flight.

on top of that, i will also visit the boeing factory, pike market, catch a musical, as well as do some outlet shopping. if time permits, i may make a trip down to mount rainer.

san francisco: 5 days
-outlet shopping
-pier 39
-golden gate bridge
-alcatraz island
-chinatown
-museum of fine arts
-lombart street
-ripley believe it or not
-union square
etc etc

las vegas: 3 days
-grand canyon
-yosemite
-MGM grand
-catch some shows
-premium outlet

los angeles: 7 days
-disneyland, disney califonia adventure, universal studios, san diego sea world: total 5 days via a citypass package.
-hollywood
-beverly hills

is my itinerary alright for a 18/19 days tour? should i scrape off the seattle trip?

from seattle ->san francisco -> las vegas ->los angeles, i have to take domestic flight?

btw, my budget is about SGD$5000-5500 per pax, including all flights, hotel stays, admission tics, land tours, shopping, meals etc, do you think it's feasible? i will most likely be taking eva air, it is about SGD$1700 per pax.
 

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Southwest Airlines do not charge for the first two bags. So no worries there. But other airlines do. So need to check if southwest flies from Seattle. I know it flies between the other three cities.

One can save $$ or save $$ if time of south west is good why not.
Otherwise consider paying for check bags.
 

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FYI, i will not be driving as me and my partner do not have driving license.

Then you're going to need to plan ahead a bit for the Boeing factory, Yosemite (do that from San Francisco, it's closer), Grand Canyon and getting down to San Diego. Those are all 2-4 hours from the actual cities where you'll be staying.

Also you are doing WAY too much outlet shopping. They're all basically identical; you'll be sick of it by the third or fourth one. Just do it in Seattle if you need to pick up some winter gear, and then again in LA if there's some stuff you absolutely must have.

(Also, you know the gear in outlet malls isn't as good as the real thing, right? The clothing companies knock off their own products to sell to the outlet mall crowd - it's all made with thinner material, less well made, basically you're getting what you pay for. Buy the real thing instead.)

on top of that, i will also visit the boeing factory, pike market, catch a musical, as well as do some outlet shopping. if time permits, i may make a trip down to mount rainer.

Seattle's Broadway scene isn't that great. Do the musical in San Francisco instead - Kinky Boots is playing right npw, and Newsies and Book of Mormon are coming later this year. Check the SHN website and see what's on when you'll be there.

san francisco: 5 days

There are people saying 5 days in San Francisco is too much, but I'd say if you're trying to squeeze in Yosemite one day and Alcatraz another, it might not be enough. I'd do 6 days in San Francisco (including Yosemite), 4 days in Vegas, and 5 days in LA (because LA is a soulless hellhole of suburban sprawl and theme parks).

Someone suggested that if you're looking for good Chinese food in San Francisco, you'll find it in Chinatown. This is true (Good Mong Kok Bakery on Stockton Street does the best pineapple buns ever), but it's also worth being adventurous and heading out into the Richmond: Hong Kong Lounge II out on Geary Street and 18th Avenue (so you're way out in the depths of suburbia) does really great dim sum at very reasonable prices. You can get there on a number 38 bus; it's about a 40-minute ride from Union Square. Ask the driver to tell you when you get to 18th Avenue.

-museum of fine arts

San Francisco is massively well-endowed with museums - there isn't just one Museum of Fine Arts. I'd even make a day of this: the De Young Museum is out in Golden Gate Park, not a particularly long way from Hong Kong Lounge (see above), and it has a terrific collection of modern art; just across the street from the De Young is the Cal Academy of Sciences, which has an indoor rainforest and butterfly house, a resident albino crocodile, and a gigantic underwater area. And when you're done with those, the Japanese Tea Gardens are right next to the De Young, and that's a particularly nice place to sit and have lunch and be all contemplative.

las vegas: 3 days
-grand canyon
-yosemite
-MGM grand

Do an extra day in Las Vegas. You've got the right idea here, but you can do so much more. (Also, Vegas this time of year is ridiculously cheap - if you're there midweek, the hotel rooms are like $50-$100 even for a really plush room.)

Take a day to walk up and down the Las Vegas Strip and go shopping - it's better than the awful outlet malls, and there's so much to see! The fake Trevi Fountain at Caesars! The fake gondoliers at the Venetian! The fake volcano at the Mirage! The fake Empire State Building and Statue of Liberty at NYNY! (I make it sound really terrible and kitschy, and it kind of is, but c'mon, it's Vegas, the kitsch is what makes it great!)

They've got a giant ferris wheel which is apparently worth a ride as well - that's just opened a few months ago.

Don't miss the fountains at the Bellagio, but here's a trick if you're not travelling with any anklebiters: instead of fighting the crowds on the Strip side of the fountains, go into the Bellagio around 5-6pm and head for Hyde nightclub. It's never busy at that time of night - they might even give you a free-booze coupon to get you in - and you'll be able to get one of the seats out on the patio or one of the booths by the window. You can sit back, eat fancy food and drink fancy drinks, and watch the fountains go off from the comfort of your plush couch.

And there are SO MANY good restaurants in Vegas. My recommendation will depend on which casino you're staying at (Mandalay Bay if you want to be cheap, Vdara if you want to be cheap but still mid-strip, Aria if you want to be fancy), but you'll be able to get yourself a great steak pretty much no matter where you are.

The MGM Grand is really just a casino, and it's not that great - it's gargantuan, so it's always crowded.

-catch some shows
You're spoiled for choice here - there are like seven Cirque du Soleil shows in Las Vegas alone. I personally like Michael Jackson One; O is pretty great as well.

Check who the resident artist at Caesars is when you're there; there's always a big name that you'll want to see.

And if you can get tickets to Penn and Teller at the Rio, absolutely do it - they have the best, funniest, most head-scratching magic show in Vegas. Get there early to listen to Penn jamming with his in-house musician, and stick around afterward to take a photo with the two of them and get their autographs.

los angeles: 7 days
-disneyland, disney califonia adventure, universal studios, san diego sea world: total 5 days via a citypass package.
-hollywood
-beverly hills

I hate Los Angeles with a fiery passion, so I'm not the best person to ask, but I think you're going a bit too hard on this. 7 days is a long time.

Also: LA is BIG. The drive from Anaheim (where Disneyland is) to Hollywood and Beverly Hills (where Universal Studios is) is an hour and a half on a good day, and as much as three hours in LA's famously awful traffic. I think you might want to split this up: two days in Anaheim and three days on the west side (stay in West Hollywood, it's reasonably central to everything you want to do).

If you're not driving, you're going to be spending a truckload on taxi fares.

And San Diego's a heck of a long way - it's like two hours from Anaheim and the only realistic way to get there is to drive. I'd cross Sea World off.

is my itinerary alright for a 18/19 days tour? should i scrape off the seattle trip?

Nope, it sounds good. You might be a little cramped in Vegas and SF, and a little too long in LA.

from seattle ->san francisco -> las vegas ->los angeles, i have to take domestic flight?

Normally I'd say "yes, just fly Virgin America for the lot", but here's a thought: how about taking the train from Seattle to SF? The Coast Starlight train runs once a day from Seattle to the Bay Area, and I'm reliably informed (by my parents, though, so take this with a grain of salt) that it's ridiculously relaxing.

btw, my budget is about SGD$5000-5500 per pax, including all flights, hotel stays, admission tics, land tours, shopping, meals etc, do you think it's feasible? i will most likely be taking eva air, it is about SGD$1700 per pax.

Yeah, I think you'll be good. Your one big expense will be tours, and hotels in San Francisco (it's stupidly expensive here). Use Tripadvisor and you might be able to find some decent bargains.

Enjoy your trip!
 
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for the penn and teller show, is it o-k to sit far behind? I'm not that particular about having an extremely good view, but am wondering if the show is much better enjoyed with closer seats


tia! :D
 

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for the penn and teller show, is it o-k to sit far behind? I'm not that particular about having an extremely good view, but am wondering if the show is much better enjoyed with closer seats

It's not bad from the far seats, but trust me: I've seen it twice, and the show is SO MUCH BETTER from the front-row premium seats. It's only about ten bucks extra, and you won't regret it.
 

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I've just left LV after 7 days with interval in Grand Canyon (2 days is too short for GC, its awesome).

For shopping, just go to the North Premium Outlet, the rest can give it a miss. As its around 10C at night, it's really nice to walk to different hotels and enjoy their design and theme. You can try the Eiffel Tower in Paris LV hotel.

We were recommended to a few restaurants but I find the food so-so. Instead, we accidentally popped into this Thai restaurant (Krung Thai) which we found the food very good! Almost identical to what you'll get in Bangkok

Oh, visited Gold and Silver pawn shop...nothing to buy except some t-shirts and fridge magnets :(
 

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GPS + car rental is recommended.
Parking in cities would not be cheap...but maybe what u could do is to get a hotel outside of the city with free parking...then in the city itself u can just do some walking, etc instead of looking for parking lots.

i cannot imagine not driving in the USA if you are going to be there for 15 days.
If you are having rental for more than 10 days. It will be wiser to buy the GPS as the rental cost for the GPS will be more than you buying one.

I bought 1 in USA so that you can update the map online since you can download singapore and malaysia map for free.
 

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my preliminary itinerary:
seattle: 4 days
i will be getting the citypass which includes the following attractions:
space needle, seattle aquarium, argosy cruises harbour tour, EMP tour, the museum of flight.

Are you planning to head out of Seattle for day trips? Space Needle, Museum of Flight and EMP can be done within one day. One day for Pike Place Market and a stroll around Pine St(their orchard road).

You can consider spending a day trip to Mt Rainier or Victoria, BC
VICTORIA & BUTCHART GARDENS TOUR « Landsea Tours

If the day is sunny, walk or cab to Kerry Park in Queen Anne. U wont regret the scenic view there ;)
 

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hi guys,

which simcard is good in US?

where can i buy cheap tickets for shows and tours in NY?
 
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