Wait for Haswell or get a 3570 instead?

[vkvkvvk]

Hi guys, I'm in a bit of a dilemma here.
My main pc is using sabertooth z77 + 3770 non k [bought the non k, cause that time i needed urgently and k was not out in sim lim yet but did OC to 4.1ghz through multiplier only]
My HTPC pc is using amd 965 + mATX msi mobo and 660 ti.

Plan to change the HTPC to 3570 end of next month but haswell is coming out very soon.

Should I transfer my 3770 to the HTPC pc, sell my sabertooth mobo z77 and get a mATX for my HTPC then get a new haswell combo for my main pc?
or
Should I just keep my main pc as it is and get a 4670 haswell + mobo for my HTPC when it comes out.
or
I should just get a 3570 + mobo for my HTPC

 

[watzup_ken]

Personally, I don't think you even need a quad core chip for HTPC. From your past HTPC specs, sounds like a gaming rig to me.

If you are not in a hurry, can always wait till Haswell. I doubt it will be that great, and since you are running an external graphic already, it should not add much value.

 

[MoneyFace =p]

Personally, I don't think you even need a quad core chip for HTPC. From your past HTPC specs, sounds like a gaming rig to me.

If you are not in a hurry, can always wait till Haswell. I doubt it will be that great, and since you are running an external graphic already, it should not add much value.

He could be doing H.264 encoding with his HTPC. HTPC can be meant for simply video viewing to encoding and archival.

 

[vkvkvvk]

He could be doing H.264 encoding with his HTPC. HTPC can be meant for simply video viewing to encoding and archival.

I do use my HTPC for gaming too

Personally, I don't think you even need a quad core chip for HTPC. From your past HTPC specs, sounds like a gaming rig to me.

If you are not in a hurry, can always wait till Haswell. I doubt it will be that great, and since you are running an external graphic already, it should not add much value.

I dont plan to upgrade my htpc for a long time and Haswell is considered a tick version of intel's development cycle.

If 3770 is installed on my HTPC it should last for a very long time. Just that not sure which plan should I go for as mentioned on my opening thread

 

[MoneyFace =p]

I do use my HTPC for gaming too



I dont plan to upgrade my htpc for a long time and Haswell is considered a tick version of intel's development cycle.

If 3770 is installed on my HTPC it should last for a very long time. Just that not sure which plan should I go for as mentioned on my opening thread

Haswell will just be an upgrade like Sandy Bridge is to Ivy Bridge in performance though, that is to say either option will be fine. But if you are keen on doing unlimited OCing with K series CPU you should probably hold it out for Haswell.

 

[RobinTeoHood]

Your current setup seems fine for whatever you want to do. Maybe save your money for something else.

 

[a562140]

wait for more detailed testing on haswell?
i'd think newer processors use less power and generate less heat - could be very useful in itx setup.

 

[vkvkvvk]

wait for more detailed testing on haswell?
i'd think newer processors use less power and generate less heat - could be very useful in itx setup.

Hmm...good point.

 

[micheloving]

Hard to say ...lets just hope that intel dun cheap out the thermal paste again.But new feature of the mb chipset not really revealed yet so better wait.

 

[MoneyFace =p]

Hard to say ...lets just hope that intel dun cheap out the thermal paste again.But new feature of the mb chipset not really revealed yet so better wait.

Already revealed to have all 6 SATA III 6.0 Gbps ports and 6 USB 3.0 ports.

 

[MoneyFace =p]

wait for more detailed testing on haswell?
i'd think newer processors use less power and generate less heat - could be very useful in itx setup.

Intel only have said to focus on reducing idle power consumption immensely (by 10x, unbelieveably cynical ). Load power consumption should also see some reduction but you should keep your expectations low. However, you can root out for Haswell CPU (just a possibility) to return to fluxless solder for much better overclockability (and hence lower temp) over Ivy Bridge CPUs. (which is why i mention about better OC capability on my previous post)

 

[voiceoflove]

Already revealed to have all 6 SATA III 6.0 Gbps ports and 6 USB 3.0 ports.

haswell no usb 2.0 interface?

 

[MoneyFace =p]

haswell no usb 2.0 interface?

Have, a total of 14 USB ports from the PCH. Just that 6 of which will be USB 3.0 as opposed to the current 4 on Panther Point.

 

[coyote]

I agree that there is no place for a quad core in HTPC. Whether Sandy bridge, Ivy bridge whatever, they are all super cool to be put into itx chassis. So... an even cooler Haswell adds little value & certainly does not justify the premium charged to early adopters.

Even if you seriously wants some video encoding... your current quad cores are more than overkill... didn't Intel HD4000 can do some gpu encoding also?

Really no point to wait for Haswell. In fact, what is the point of upgrading actually when your current pcs are overkill?

Personally, I don't think you even need a quad core chip for HTPC. From your past HTPC specs, sounds like a gaming rig to me.

If you are not in a hurry, can always wait till Haswell. I doubt it will be that great, and since you are running an external graphic already, it should not add much value.

 

[MoneyFace =p]

I agree that there is no place for a quad core in HTPC. Whether Sandy bridge, Ivy bridge whatever, they are all super cool to be put into itx chassis. So... an even cooler Haswell adds little value & certainly does not justify the premium charged to early adopters.

Even if you seriously wants some video encoding... your current quad cores are more than overkill... didn't Intel HD4000 can do some gpu encoding also?

Really no point to wait for Haswell. In fact, what is the point of upgrading actually when your current pcs are overkill?

What i can see from TS posts thus far is, he wants to retire his Deneb CPU in favour of Intel one (whichever IB or Haswell) for better gaming performance with the GTX 660 Ti on his HTPC, which you know is quite a significant upgrade with recently released games.

 

[vkvkvvk]

What i can see from TS posts thus far is, he wants to retire his Deneb CPU in favour of Intel one (whichever IB or Haswell) for better gaming performance with the GTX 660 Ti on his HTPC, which you know is quite a significant upgrade with recently released games.

Yup, that's exactly why I am upgrading

 

[escksu]

Hard to say ...lets just hope that intel dun cheap out the thermal paste again.But new feature of the mb chipset not really revealed yet so better wait.

Seriously, I don't think its going to change.....

Both AMD and Intel has been using it for a long long time already. Since Haswell is supposedly to run cooler than IB, there is no need for solder bonding at all..

Actually, the thermal paste works fine unless you are overclocking. Hence, I don't know why Intel doesn't want to use solder for their K series instead, esp. since they are charging more.