Warning: Second hand car dealers

Athenares

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Just hope to share my 2 cents worth regarding my recent experience with second hand car dealers. I am a first time car owner and I hope my experience could spare others from the same excruciating torture I had been through.

To summarize, the deals left a bad, bad after-taste.

My journey started off with looking for a second hand car to fit my current situation. Mind you, COE was pretty low (< $30k, Cat A) but I thought I could be the lucky few to score a good second hand car.

I chanced upon Lake View Credit Pte Ltd. I found a model I liked and tThe drive was smooth, it has reasonable mileage and the whole car was well maintained. I sent it over to STA for evaluation and was graded B. Everything was good and I bought over the car. That’s where the nightmare began.

2 weeks into the drive, the check engine light turned on. I called the Sales person and was told to go to Rui Chuan Car Repairing. Without thoroughly checking my car, he said it’s nothing and used the OBD scanner to erase the error message. He asked me to change fuel to Esso. The light went on again for 2 more times and he told me there is problem with the catalytic converter. I called Lake View and all I got was to spilt the cost. It was a few hundred and I thought that was the end of it.

2 months into the drive, my gears started slipping and knowing the severity, I immediately went to their designated workshop. Again, only after much pleading, they reluctantly tried out the car and confirmed it’s gearbox issue. I called Lake View and gave them a piece of my mind. I reckoned they knew it was faulty car. Since gearbox and engine is covered under Lemon Law for 6 months, I asked them to pay for the full repair. But according to Lemon Law, it’s phrased vaguely, so as long as they pay their “fair”, they’ll be fine. I was told to replaced with a second hand gearbox and pay half of the cost. I was quoted $800.

This is where it got dodgy real fast!

To be continued...
 

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Since I’m quoted $800 for half the total price, a second hand gearbox would cost $1600. I went around asking different workshops for their quotes and to my horror, second hand gearbox plus labor cost about $800 and to overhaul the gearbox cost about $1700-$2000. I was practically paying full price and Lake View would have gotten away scot-free. Bloody dishonest bunch.

I went over to Doctor Gearbox to get it repaired. I would highly recommend them. Very good service, know their stuff and reasonably priced. While repairing, they showed me several faults in the car too. My engine gasket has cracked and engine oil is leaking. What puzzled me most was how STA could overlook and not put in their report.

If I could turn back time, I would go right ahead with a new car. I have bought and is waiting for the new car to be delivered.

In this short span of 3 months, I lost more than $3000, from the repair and selling of the car. But it is a very valuable life lesson I have learnt.

Really, avoid second hand car dealers. What they do is almost criminal, skirting right at the edge of law... Save yourself from a totally preventable nightmare.
 

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If u have done ur homework thoroughly before purchasing.. u wld have know STA n Vicom do not give detailed report.. they only provide e rating.. u shld send to AA for checks where they give u e report on wat to look out for.



Since I’m quoted $800 for half the total price, a second hand gearbox would cost $1600. I went around asking different workshops for their quotes and to my horror, second hand gearbox plus labor cost about $800 and to overhaul the gearbox cost about $1700-$2000. I was practically paying full price and Lake View would have gotten away scot-free. Bloody dishonest bunch.

I went over to Doctor Gearbox to get it repaired. I would highly recommend them. Very good service, know their stuff and reasonably priced. While repairing, they showed me several faults in the car too. My engine gasket has cracked and engine oil is leaking. What puzzled me most was how STA could overlook and not put in their report.

If I could turn back time, I would go right ahead with a new car. I have bought and is waiting for the new car to be delivered.

In this short span of 3 months, I lost more than $3000, from the repair and selling of the car. But it is a very valuable life lesson I have learnt.

Really, avoid second hand car dealers. What they do is almost criminal, skirting right at the edge of law... Save yourself from a totally preventable nightmare.
 

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If u have done ur homework thoroughly before purchasing.. u wld have know STA n Vicom do not give detailed report.. they only provide e rating.. u shld send to AA for checks where they give u e report on wat to look out for.
Or go back to the AD for inspection check if they carry the same model.
 

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Why do people always have the idea of buying a 2nd hand car and not spending a single cent to fix it? Dep 1k++ mthly is OK. Few hundred to fix a new parts and use it for long is not OK??

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.... and selling of the car.......
And who you sold it to?
Second hand car dealer? Allow the car to 'flow' in the market?

Really, avoid second hand car dealers. What they do is almost criminal, skirting right at the edge of law... Save yourself from a totally preventable nightmare.
Yet you sell it bad to them and foreseen another buyer may pick up this lemon?
 

Leave No Men Behind

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Black shops many.
U see turf club.
Many sitting on high stool, angkong muar, blowing away-smoke.

As much possible, avoid all these.
Imho.
 

sentsggirls

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Yah true bro.
Turf club cars some really jialet condition
Like scrapyard type. Lol

Buy secondhand cars need time and patience.
Some many car ads in sgcarmart

But they are some rare gems if u find it
 

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Basically be firm. Don’t get pressured into buying. These guys can suss out who they can bully.

Yah true bro.
Turf club cars some really jialet condition
Like scrapyard type. Lol

Buy secondhand cars need time and patience.
Some many car ads in sgcarmart

But they are some rare gems if u find it
 

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Insist car inspection by AA, nothing less. STA and Vicom are less stringent in their checks and hence the flawed ratings (i suspect some dealers have connections with these inspectors too).

If your dealer refuses to let the car inspect by AA, simply walk away and continue your car hunt.
 

HondaJG

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can pls advise what place is better to shop if not those mentioned?
already mentioned by many here.. avoid Turf Club.
the answers are in the forum (in other threads), the PI company names were posted.
doh be lazy, go search and do some homework if you want to buy 2nd car.

else go for new car at AD instead, if you want to drive with peace of mind.
 

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Can send the car to the official service centre for diagnostics instead anot?
 
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