We have been misinformed for the longest time about the British 🇬🇧 defence of Singapore

Darwinson

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Taking a break from the RK saga here.
In history class, we were taught that the British installed batteries cannot point in the direction of the North.

However this is a false. The guns could point north. They however could not be as effective because they were for naval warfare, not land based warfare.

It is one thing to say that the guns were poorly designed , it’s another to say that they were not compatible for the type of warfare.

It is however correct to say that they did not give us enough resources, us being the colony of singapore. Churchill gave assurances early in the war to both Australia and New Zealand that defending Singapore would take precedence over British defense of the Mediterranean. But late 1941 found Britain in a fight for its life in a war against both Germany and Italy. Singapore did not receive what was planned or was promised. It got what could be spared, a squadron known as Force Z.
I would say Japanese momentum was too strong. ‘Impregnable’ singapore would have taken another 50 extra days and 20000 deaths before the Japanese take over.
 

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Yes this reiterate NS is a must. And should be extended back to 2 years or more!
 

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We have. JLR group in our motherland.
Which bankruptcy is imminent for them.


:)
Your motherland is in trouble
J and LR is going downhill in their respective industry sectors.
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Name one hopeful brand from your motherland?
 

MiG123

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90% of the world was invaded in some way or form, it was a world war ffs…

i dont see 90% of the world instituting national slavery to compensate
 

Cokacola

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Heart is never there in first place. Why should they lose their life protecting people not their kind.
yup it always baffles me why would a foreigner lay down his life to protect you?

NS is a must for sinkies!











jobs for Fts.....
 

singkeeduakee

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Aiyah, even if British won the first battle, they still would have lost. The Jap so many soldiers and British reinforcement would be unlikely.

The japs also amdk worshipper, how many white heads they chop vs how many Chinese heads chopped
 

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i dunno what can those slow reloading cannons do to dispersed troops ..... too little number compared to modern howitzer
 

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Your motherland is in trouble
J and LR is going downhill in their respective industry sectors.
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Name one hopeful brand from your motherland?
TATA and Infosys.
Pride of motherland, pride of 1.4billion population, 20 years ago, 100 year later.
Maybe another 200 years you still hear the very same.
Only these two, nothing else.
Talent surplus yo!


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TanukiKoji

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Aiyah, even if British won the first battle, they still would have lost. The Jap so many soldiers and British reinforcement would be unlikely.
:s13: This one a bit.. the imperial Japanese army snook the Brits. The British has 2 ~3times more men than the Japs..騙術. Pseudo intelligence that the Japs to attack from Batavia(now Jarkata).
 

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superior manpower, but weak leadership lose to smaller Jap army count.
know long long liao Jap advancing from Land flank
never early move guns around and dig trenches,
typical paper general got role through connections.
what you expect , heroic last stand ?
 

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During WWII if there was no war in europe with germany and the axis powers, the UK and US allies entire forces could focus solely on reaching singapore naval base for resupply and repairs to protect their interests in the far east in malaya, philippines and china by basing their main base in singapore.
Japan made very good calculations to invade when their home country is busy. Unofficial agreement with hitler.
 

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This one is common knowledge riao. The truth is not that straightforward, but history is written in a way for a purpose anyway.

Just like history always says Raffles is founder of Singapore but he didnt spent a lot of time administrating and staying here. Farquhar was the one tasked with setting up the place as a trading port. In an era where decision-making took weeks and months, he had to make most of the on-ground decisions.

Similarly, lets look at the history of this place for the past 70 years. Without people like Goh Keng Swee and Lim Kim San, can we be where we are today? But guess who are we conditioned to know more? :cool:
 

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superior manpower, but weak leadership lose to smaller Jap army count.
know long long liao Jap advancing from Land flank
never early move guns around and dig trenches,
typical paper general got role through connections.
what you expect , heroic last stand ?
Brits has 3 times the manpower should be able to hold out the northern straits with ample fortifications, trenches and huge machine guns and massive cannons placements, against the impending Jap land advances from malaya while waiting for naval reinforcements and supplies from the southern sea ports from Britishindia and australia back then all under Brits? Then the allies US can send reinforcements and supplies from pearl harbor and hawaii, there are minimally 3 battle groups of aircraft carriers were nearby in the area.
 

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Brits has 3 times the manpower should be able to hold out the northern straits with ample fortifications, trenches and huge machine guns and massive cannons placements, against the impending Jap land advances from malaya while waiting for naval reinforcements and supplies from the southern sea ports from Britishindia and australia back then all under Brits? Then the allies US can send reinforcements and supplies from pearl harbor and hawaii, there are minimally 3 battle groups of aircraft carriers were nearby in the area.
yeah but also they racist think japs weak weak so lose hard, didn't even think they could overwhelm and destroy them easily
watch hardcore history Japan Supernova of the east
 

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Pearl harbor was the turning point.

Invasion to SE Asia was the prize of their success in pearl harbor.
 

Unic0rn

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Back then we had such huge navy ships transporting months worth of supplies and thousands of troops to SG thrice weekly to support the Brits naval base.
300px-8th_Div_Troops.jpg
 

HumJiBeng

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LKY was smart and fearless. If he had led the battle, Singapore would have won against the Japanese
 
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