What PC fans do you use and prefer?

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Yes. Back should be intake for NR200. It will bring in cool air and since in a ITX everything is so close together, cool air reach your HS faster and your top exhaust can take out the warm air quicker.
 

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Yes. Back should be intake for NR200. It will bring in cool air and since in a ITX everything is so close together, cool air reach your HS faster and your top exhaust can take out the warm air quicker.
Based on my experience with the case, I feel it won't make a lot of difference having the rear fan as intake or exhaust. Nearby component will benefit with some airflow. At the end of the day, the top fans need to exhaust the heat. For me, I was using an Arctic Liquid Freezer where the fan in the pump helped with airflow to the VRM and SSD. So temp wasn't an issue even with the rear fan configured to exhaust heat.
 

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No money buy Noctua. I buy similar performance one at lesser pricing, like wondersnail or P/F12. Then i use the saving and eat mcdonald.
I feel the difference in performance vs price, I would have gone for cheaper alternatives as well. Having said that, based on my very quick and subjective test of the Wonder Snail against the Vento Pro, the latter have a slight edge in terms of airflow and noise at max speed. Noise is clearly just a notch higher and to be expected because of the higher RPM. Otherwise, I feel it is a very good fan for the price, when you consider that the Vento Pro is usually around 29 bucks vs 18+ for the Wonder Snail. Build wise, the Wonder Snail feels heftier and more solid when compared to the Arctic P12. So overall, my top 3 recommendation for fans base on pricing (please note no RGB fan in recommendation as I don't like RGB =p),

1. Arctic P12/14 - Good airflow, lowest price at around 12 bucks for the P12. Very basic build and frequent complains of grinding noise (which I have never experienced using it over the last 2 years).

2. Wonder Snail - High airfow, reasonably priced going for as low as 19 bucks (before any discount). Higher max RPM, but will increase noise, but only by a little when compared to the Vento Pro

3. Vento Pro - High airflow, good build, average price @ around 29 bucks (normal price). Good balance of noise to airflow.

If budget and space permits, I actually feel that the Phanteks T30 are one of the best fans I've tested. They generally cost around 45 bucks (pack of 3 for 135 bucks before discount). The reason why I feel they are better buy than say Noctua NFA12x25 are because,
1. Comes in a pleasant color by default vs Noctua's brown and beige color at the same price ( you can get the Chromax but that cost even more just for the color). I don't have a problem with Noctua's default color scheme, but I think this may be a point of consideration for some who prefers a certain color for their rig

2. As most reviews out there pointed out, the thicker profile (30 vs 25mm) allows the fan to push more air at lower RPM vs Noctua. Lower RPM generally results in lower noise. In my own use, even with the CPU at max load, I don't really hear the 3x fan installed in the front of the case and cooling the Arctic Liquid Freezer 360 RAD

3. It is more versatile, i.e. there is a switch that lets you run at performance mode @ up to 3000 RPM. Not something that most people will find useful because it will be very loud, but at least the option is there in case you really need to use it.
 

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Agreed.. hmm life goes on ahhaha.. another fan which I find impressive are the FK120 from Deepcool, non argb. I wish I had done a vid when swapping the fans between the Fuma 2 and the Thermalright Peerless Assassin Black. These fans are quiet and they do perform when I did my own testing without creating a video. Too bad have to return the AK620 to TechDynamic, else I would have done up another video, also to compare it against the Arctic P12, XPG Vento Gentle Typhoon and the Scythe Wondersnail.
 

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I feel the difference in performance vs price, I would have gone for cheaper alternatives as well. Having said that, based on my very quick and subjective test of the Wonder Snail against the Vento Pro, the latter have a slight edge in terms of airflow and noise at max speed. Noise is clearly just a notch higher and to be expected because of the higher RPM. Otherwise, I feel it is a very good fan for the price, when you consider that the Vento Pro is usually around 29 bucks vs 18+ for the Wonder Snail. Build wise, the Wonder Snail feels heftier and more solid when compared to the Arctic P12. So overall, my top 3 recommendation for fans base on pricing (please note no RGB fan in recommendation as I don't like RGB =p),

1. Arctic P12/14 - Good airflow, lowest price at around 12 bucks for the P12. Very basic build and frequent complains of grinding noise (which I have never experienced using it over the last 2 years).

2. Wonder Snail - High airfow, reasonably priced going for as low as 19 bucks (before any discount). Higher max RPM, but will increase noise, but only by a little when compared to the Vento Pro

3. Vento Pro - High airflow, good build, average price @ around 29 bucks (normal price). Good balance of noise to airflow.

If budget and space permits, I actually feel that the Phanteks T30 are one of the best fans I've tested. They generally cost around 45 bucks (pack of 3 for 135 bucks before discount). The reason why I feel they are better buy than say Noctua NFA12x25 are because,
1. Comes in a pleasant color by default vs Noctua's brown and beige color at the same price ( you can get the Chromax but that cost even more just for the color). I don't have a problem with Noctua's default color scheme, but I think this may be a point of consideration for some who prefers a certain color for their rig

2. As most reviews out there pointed out, the thicker profile (30 vs 25mm) allows the fan to push more air at lower RPM vs Noctua. Lower RPM generally results in lower noise. In my own use, even with the CPU at max load, I don't really hear the 3x fan installed in the front of the case and cooling the Arctic Liquid Freezer 360 RAD

3. It is more versatile, i.e. there is a switch that lets you run at performance mode @ up to 3000 RPM. Not something that most people will find useful because it will be very loud, but at least the option is there in case you really need to use it.
Well writting, it's always good to have opinion on each fans.. its direct to the point for others to decide. thank you for the info as always.
 

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Just a quick check. Does anyone know Lian Li l Lancool 215 availability in SG?
 

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i was eyeing this case for sometime but dont think SG bring this in.. but you can get it here. import from malaysia https://shopee.sg/search?keyword=lian li 215

i wonder if you are interested in the 216.. still in prototype ..


This looks promising.

I am noting on Compact ATX cases suitable for next-gen CPU and GPU. I think most 120x3 and 140x2 front cases will not cut it unless turning the fans up high, which will be noisy.

For the large ones, probably not an issue.
 

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I think 2 Noctua is enough ba, the rest I go with cheaper P14 or Scythe Kaze Flex
 
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Or can get the Noctua from Taobao, I have 2 Noctua iPPC as top exhaust too. Too lazy to swap them out.
 

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Got these to replace the bottom fans of the Torrent case.

Seemed like the most cost effective alternative to Noctua A14s, other than Arctic P14s, which I didn't really like. Kinda feels like while 120mm fans has their clear winners, such as the Phantek T30s, Noctua A12, Gentle Typhoon, there's no such equivalent for 140mm fans.

Sidenote: Amazon.sg has round frame 140mm Scythe Kaze Flex for a decent price (~15 sgd) at the moment.
 

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Got these to replace the bottom fans of the Torrent case.

Seemed like the most cost effective alternative to Noctua A14s, other than Arctic P14s, which I didn't really like. Kinda feels like while 120mm fans has their clear winners, such as the Phantek T30s, Noctua A12, Gentle Typhoon, there's no such equivalent for 140mm fans.

Sidenote: Amazon.sg has round frame 140mm Scythe Kaze Flex for a decent price (~15 sgd) at the moment.

I think when I first started having an interest in testing fans, I was using mostly smaller case, i.e. MATX and ITX, thus, most of my PC fans are 120mm, and not that many opportunities to test out 140mm ones. Strangely, most of the more exciting fans are only available in 120mm, so I usually end up testing 120mm ones. :p

Scythe fans so far are pretty good for their asking price, so I think the 140mm fans should be good options. At least that is based on my experience using both the 25mm and 15mm thick 120mm fans.
 

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I think when I first started having an interest in testing fans, I was using mostly smaller case, i.e. MATX and ITX, thus, most of my PC fans are 120mm, and not that many opportunities to test out 140mm ones. Strangely, most of the more exciting fans are only available in 120mm, so I usually end up testing 120mm ones. :p

Scythe fans so far are pretty good for their asking price, so I think the 140mm fans should be good options. At least that is based on my experience using both the 25mm and 15mm thick 120mm fans.
I remember when it was preferable to use a good 120mm fan like the gentle typhoon, that would perform better in both airflow and noise over a 140mm (this was many many years ago though).

Seems like most 140mms now have improved enough that it's better to just get the 140mm if it fits the case, and limit the rpm if noise is an issue. For example, while I know the paper specs are probably not accurate, T30s are rated for 67 cfm at 2000 rpm (which is definitely audible), while most decent 140mms are rated about 103 cfm at about 1800 rpm. I'm aware that once fans start pushing a certain amount of air, noise (not from the motor) is definitely not avoidable. But normalised for noise, seems that the 140mm would definitely still have the advantage in air flow, which does makes sense given the size difference.

I ended up going for the Scythe Kaze Flex mostly because of the good reviews from the bros here. :)
 

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I remember when it was preferable to use a good 120mm fan like the gentle typhoon, that would perform better in both airflow and noise over a 140mm (this was many many years ago though).

Seems like most 140mms now have improved enough that it's better to just get the 140mm if it fits the case, and limit the rpm if noise is an issue. For example, while I know the paper specs are probably not accurate, T30s are rated for 67 cfm at 2000 rpm (which is definitely audible), while most decent 140mms are rated about 103 cfm at about 1800 rpm. I'm aware that once fans start pushing a certain amount of air, noise (not from the motor) is definitely not avoidable. But normalised for noise, seems that the 140mm would definitely still have the advantage in air flow, which does makes sense given the size difference.

I ended up going for the Scythe Kaze Flex mostly because of the good reviews from the bros here. :)
If I am not mistaken, assuming everything stays constant and we are just looking at the blade length, or, tilt of the blades,
1. Longer blades will push more air at any given RPM - At the expense of a wider frame, i.e. 140mm
2. More tilted blades should push more air at any given RPM - At the expense of a thicker fan, i.e. T30

A great example for me in terms of size difference is the crappy Corsair ML120 and ML140. I bought both because I was interested to check out this magnetic lev fans just because they sounded cool. It was a bad mistaken, particularly with the ML120 because at full speed, I literally thought some air raid alarm went off. The ML140 was noisy as well, but very obviously not as bad due to the lower RPM. The airflow on both fans are very good, but the noise level is terrible.
 

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If I am not mistaken, assuming everything stays constant and we are just looking at the blade length, or, tilt of the blades,
1. Longer blades will push more air at any given RPM - At the expense of a wider frame, i.e. 140mm
2. More tilted blades should push more air at any given RPM - At the expense of a thicker fan, i.e. T30

A great example for me in terms of size difference is the crappy Corsair ML120 and ML140. I bought both because I was interested to check out this magnetic lev fans just because they sounded cool. It was a bad mistaken, particularly with the ML120 because at full speed, I literally thought some air raid alarm went off. The ML140 was noisy as well, but very obviously not as bad due to the lower RPM. The airflow on both fans are very good, but the noise level is terrible.
Yes, but that assumes that the designs can just be upscaled in size and get a proportionate improvement. So manufacturers does just enlarge an existing fan's design but I don't think that would work very well in practice. Otherwise, Noctua could just make a larger A12x25 and call it a day. Some designs that would work well on a smaller fan, once upscaled to a certain size, may just shatter under it's own mass once spun up.

That said, I think there's some significant diminishing returns on fan upgrades once you already have something decent. I went for the Kaze Flexes mainly cuz of the good reviews here, and that they're in the right price range/performance. Plus they also kinda match my boring color scheme. :D

 

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Yes, but that assumes that the designs can just be upscaled in size and get a proportionate improvement. So manufacturers does just enlarge an existing fan's design but I don't think that would work very well in practice. Otherwise, Noctua could just make a larger A12x25 and call it a day. Some designs that would work well on a smaller fan, once upscaled to a certain size, may just shatter under it's own mass once spun up.

That said, I think there's some significant diminishing returns on fan upgrades once you already have something decent. I went for the Kaze Flexes mainly cuz of the good reviews here, and that they're in the right price range/performance. Plus they also kinda match my boring color scheme. :D


Agree it may not scale well. May be to correct myself why I said "assuming everything stays the same", I actually mean if I don't consider other factors.
To me, the main benefit of going with 140mm is the noise level since they spin slower and generate less noise.
 

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Agree it may not scale well. May be to correct myself why I said "assuming everything stays the same", I actually mean if I don't consider other factors.
To me, the main benefit of going with 140mm is the noise level since they spin slower and generate less noise.

Yeap, like lian li 215 has 2x 200m on the front, resulting in the best noise normalized thermal.
 
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