Which ETF RSP better?

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which is better?

POSB Invest-Saver or OCBC Blue Chip Investment Plan (BCIP)

reasons?

i think OCBC is cheaper cuz of the cheaper transaction cost at current promotion. but POSB uses the Nikko AM STI ETF which seems to have a higher dividend payout trend as far as i know..

Sorry.. quite new and noob at all this.. still in my research phase :s13:
 

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which is better?

POSB Invest-Saver or OCBC Blue Chip Investment Plan (BCIP)

reasons?

i think OCBC is cheaper cuz of the cheaper transaction cost at current promotion. but POSB uses the Nikko AM STI ETF which seems to have a higher dividend payout trend as far as i know..

Sorry.. quite new and noob at all this.. still in my research phase :s13:

POSB Invest Saver, You only purchase Nikko Am STI ETF...you got no other choice...fees is 1% when buying and 0% when selling with no minimum..amount not used to purchase the unit of share refunded...Cannot transfer to CDP account, cannot reinvest dividend, slow to update on I-banking on the transaction details..

OCBC BCIP, You can choose Nikko Am STI ETF and 19 other stocks you want to purchase like telcos and banks...fees is the higher of 0.3% or $5 for both buying and selling... if the unit share purchased is in decimal, it would be rounded off to the nearest whole number...Can transfer to your CDP account, divided cannot be reinvested...

That is the gist as I am typing this on my phone while walking...if I am free later, will type it properly..
 

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only these 2?
how about nikko etf thru scb? abt 300/mth.
 

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Personally, I think nikko etf through scb is a more effective method than posb and ocbc... Just that u will need discipline to save at a regular timing and regardless of the price...
 

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Personally, I think nikko etf through scb is a more effective method than posb and ocbc... Just that u will need discipline to save at a regular timing and regardless of the price...

Agreed with this strategy if you are able to fork out 300/month to do. The low commission. If you got the discipline, this way you paying lower commission.
 

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Agreed with this strategy if you are able to fork out 300/month to do. The low commission. If you got the discipline, this way you paying lower commission.

Hi, sorry but what do you mean by having to fork out $300/month and having the discipline for this strategy?

I thought when we purchase, say 1 lot of Nikko AM STI ETF, through SCB Trading Platform, it's equivalent to buying shares of a company. The 1 lot will stay in our portfolio until we decide to sell it. So how does the $300/mth come in to the picture?

Sorry, I'm still in the process of learning about investing, if this sounds like a stupid question I apologize in advance. :/
 

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Hi, sorry but what do you mean by having to fork out $300/month and having the discipline for this strategy?

I thought when we purchase, say 1 lot of Nikko AM STI ETF, through SCB Trading Platform, it's equivalent to buying shares of a company. The 1 lot will stay in our portfolio until we decide to sell it. So how does the $300/mth come in to the picture?

Sorry, I'm still in the process of learning about investing, if this sounds like a stupid question I apologize in advance. :/

Because the main focus here is RSP or Regular Savings Plans.

The thing is that the two options from POSB and OCBC, are kind of like automated trading accounts for those who want a taste of investment while not have too many things to control that they lose said control anyway.

RSPs apply the dollar cost averaging strategy to enhance returns. You buy using a fixed amount of cash regularly, if the price is high you only get a few but should the price dip you get more units for your buck. In the long run, this adds up to your average cost per unit being lower so you are gains.

But back to your confusion, the SCB trading account can do what POSB and OCBC are doing for you. It can, but you have to do it yourself. That's the tradeoff for the lower transaction costs. But if you're not used to setting money aside, you can easily come up with a reason to delay that regular purchase via SCB, be it to "time the market" or "consolidate your options" or maybe just "It's not the right time" (but when is?)

The slightly higher cost can be quite a put off but think of it as tuition fees to get your habit of regularly investing cultivated. Dissuade yourself of notions that you know when is a good time to buy because usually we don't. At least that's how I see it.

As for the TS's question, I'm with InvestSaver right now but it's been less than a year so I don't know about returns yet. The decision between BCIP or InvestSaver was easy for me cuz I had a DBS account and am yet to be 21 of age. (essentially I had no choice hahaha)

There is no major difference between the two in terms of general application. You can argue over transaction costs and how they interpret fractional units (POSB is fairer in this extent) but I think InvestSaver is good enough so far. As a newcomer, you should be aiming to just regularly set money aside to grow and not constantly think over which stock or when to buy. BCIP offers 30 units, that's great. But do you really know which one you want? What's the difference?

And let's say you do know the difference, why aren't you on SCB buying directly then?

Nikko Sti ETF is a good staple, don't give yourself the chance to get lost in a doozy of choices.

When your appetite grows, your knowledge should grow with it and by then you have better options made known to you :)

Sorry for the long post.
 

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Ohhhh, that certainly clears my infinite amount of question marks.

I'll look up for further details about the ETF as until now, it seems like a perfect choice for me to go with the SCB Strategy.

Thank you so much for the explanation!
 

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Ohhhh, that certainly clears my infinite amount of question marks.

I'll look up for further details about the ETF as until now, it seems like a perfect choice for me to go with the SCB Strategy.

Thank you so much for the explanation!



but human has this greed where they will try to beat the market thus beating the purpose of a passive investment.

what i recommend is set aside $100-$300 as like forgotten money for the rsp.


while on the other hand, save up more money and play stocks.

in this way if u **** up stocks, u still have rsp.


DIVERSIFY BRO
 

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which is better?

POSB Invest-Saver or OCBC Blue Chip Investment Plan (BCIP)

reasons?

i think OCBC is cheaper cuz of the cheaper transaction cost at current promotion. but POSB uses the Nikko AM STI ETF which seems to have a higher dividend payout trend as far as i know..

Sorry.. quite new and noob at all this.. still in my research phase :s13:

both plans has it's benefits.

but its benefits applies to how much you put in.

Based on my findings.


$1666,7 per month and above put in OCBC better.

But not forgetting for OCBC when you sell your stocks, its still charagable.


Any amount below that, put in posb.
 

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but human has this greed where they will try to beat the market thus beating the purpose of a passive investment.

what i recommend is set aside $100-$300 as like forgotten money for the rsp.


while on the other hand, save up more money and play stocks.

in this way if u **** up stocks, u still have rsp.


DIVERSIFY BRO

Yeap that's exactly what I plan to do.
I'm still looking through its Nikko AM's Prospectus and AR, learning more about the details of ETFs and comparing it with the SPDR STI ETF first before I decide.

Thanks for the advice!
 

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Yeap that's exactly what I plan to do.
I'm still looking through its Nikko AM's Prospectus and AR, learning more about the details of ETFs and comparing it with the SPDR STI ETF first before I decide.

Thanks for the advice!

Why not buy both SPDR STI ETF and Nikko Am STI ETF? Use the RSP to purchase Nikko AM and accumulate enough funds to purchase SPDR STI ETF and other stocks..if you want to rebalance your portfolio is easier as Nikko Am STI ETF is 100 shares per lot and SPDR STI ETF is 1,000 shares per lot..That is just my opinion and method...
 

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Why not buy both SPDR STI ETF and Nikko Am STI ETF? Use the RSP to purchase Nikko AM and accumulate enough funds to purchase SPDR STI ETF and other stocks..if you want to rebalance your portfolio is easier as Nikko Am STI ETF is 100 shares per lot and SPDR STI ETF is 1,000 shares per lot..That is just my opinion and method...

Hmm.. Sounds like a plan too.
I'll give it a thought.

Thank you! :)
 

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Why not buy both SPDR STI ETF and Nikko Am STI ETF? Use the RSP to purchase Nikko AM and accumulate enough funds to purchase SPDR STI ETF and other stocks..if you want to rebalance your portfolio is easier as Nikko Am STI ETF is 100 shares per lot and SPDR STI ETF is 1,000 shares per lot..That is just my opinion and method...

good plan... I am consider that too. If I am not wrong, SPDR STI ETF has more liquidity than Nikko... correct me if I am wrong.

I also planning to set aside some cash for ABF bond...
 
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