Which MBA?

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hi all, i know that SMU's MBA cost like 54K,
how much does the MBA for NUS and INSEAD cost?

I have a 2nd lower degree in banking and finance (UOL external programme), do u think i will be able to qualify?
please advice.
Thanks,

you didn't say what is your work experience like?

NUS: Full Time MBA: S$50,000 payable over 3 semesters
http://bschool.nus.edu.sg/TheNUSMBA/AdmissionsInformation/TuitionFees/tabid/1788/Default.aspx

INSEAD: Tuition fees for the September 2009 and January 2010 entries amount to €51,000. (note it is in euros!!!)
http://www.insead.edu/mba/financing/financing_fees.cfm

a bit distrubing that UOL second lower don't know how to use google.
 

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Is online MBA as good?

Hi everyone,

I'm new here and I need some advices from you guys. I read most of your postings and i find that most of you have done some research on the MBA. Can someone please tell me if the online program is as good as the on-campus MBA?

My friend recommend me U21Global MBA and I need more advices from others as well.

Thanks.
 

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hi all, i know that SMU's MBA cost like 54K,
how much does the MBA for NUS and INSEAD cost?

I have a 2nd lower degree in banking and finance (UOL external programme), do u think i will be able to qualify?
please advice.
Thanks,

2:2, paper value wise don't think U qualify INSEAD.
however if U are currently senior exec in MNC or CFO (not in a 10-20 men coy), U should try.

SMU MBA didn't have req on degree classification. A 2:2 U can try so long your GMAT is high and do have good working experience. worst case $100 gone nia.
perhaps use NUS/NTU MBA student profile as a guide to what is meant by high GMAT.
http://www.business.smu.edu.sg/MBA/admissions.asp
 

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if i have to pay $54k for a MBA, i would rather go for CARDIFF UNIVERSITY MBA cost $16470 Pound add in your living expenses, approximately will cost $60,000 SGD
 

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Jimmy

The way you wrote really don't seems like you going to enroll into the programme rather than more like you are one of the staff there.


Hey Guys,

I will be undertaking my MBA at DStrathclyde in Apr 09, and yes, it will be with YMCA. Despite being dissapointed at the switch from TES to YMCA, I still went ahead with my application for several reasons.

1) Strathclyde MBA has been conducted in Singapore for close to 20 years, they undertsand the system, the culture and there exist a huge pool of alumni to network

2) Decent rankings, and overall interesting modules and electives offered. It is one of the few places offering a Strategy based MBA

3) Decent price

4) Loads of good feedback from former students.

5) Reasonably strict selection process, so you know your cohorts are decent

During my interview, my interviewer did acknowledge that the move to YMCA was not something that Strathclyde particularly liked, but due the business, the move was inevitable. Singapore breweries, which owned TES, had decided to sell their stake to YMCA. He assured me that its still a Strathclyde MBA, wich has been around these parts for nearly 2 decades. He was very honest and open, and did acknowledge that there will be some teething problems in transitioning, but gave me every assuarance that the University will see to it that quality is not compromised. Here is an offficial response from Ron Bradfield of Strathclyde in response to some of the questions I posted,

1) How will this affect the teaching staff. From what I gather, classes are conducted by mainly faculty staff of Strathclyde at the moment. Will there be a change in policy upon transition to YMCA?

No there will be no change in policy at all and therefore there should be no effect on the teaching staff, neither the Strathclyde Academics nor the Local Counsellors

2) How do the facilities at YMCA compare to TES?

From the TES website, it states "that the Institute has 7 classrooms and a computer laboratory with a seating capacity of 350 people. Each classroom is equipped with an internet-enabled lecturer terminal, which is linked to a LCD projector. Students have free access TO our state-of-the-art computer-cum-language laboratory with more than 30 internet-enabled workstations, as well as our resource library with a wide selection of academic and professional reference books. "

Perhaps the best answer I can give here is that you should take the opportunity to visit the premises and see for yourself – I am sure that Lynette will be happy to show you around them. While renovations are not yet completed, the major advantage of the YMCA premises is that we now have a substantial size lecture hall which can seat 100+ students – we did not unfortunately have this at TES. All materials from the resource library will be transferred to the YMCA resource room and internet-enabled workstations are also being installed, and the lecture hall and lecture rooms will be wifi enabled.

3) The helpful staff at TES was a one of the main criteria used in selecting the MBA program. Current students have often praised the helpful and personalized approach provided by the TES staff. How does YMCA intend to continue this level of service? How many full time staff do you have to facilitate providing support to students pursuing their MBA.

Neither of the two staff (Soek Hui and Debby Lim) are transfering to the programme but Lynette is currently sourcing two new staff. As with all change, it should be expected that there will be some teething problems with the new staff, but Lynette and the YMCA have given us every assurance that they will maintain the same, if not better, service level our students experienced at TES. At the same time Susan (and I) will visit Singapore periodically as we have always done, to monitor the programme and service levels, and to meet with students to discuss issues.


It is with these considerations that I applied, and truth be told, I am excited to undertake my course. Of course, I am bracing myself for some administrative problems with YMCA, but I believe that they will improve soon enough. There is no way that Strathclyde, which has such a high reputation here, will allow their standards to drop. I expect them to conduct quality checks and meet with students on a regular basis, and yes, if I am not happy, I will voice my concerns, and I hope that the current will do the same.

Hope this helps

Cheers!
 

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Jimmy

The way you wrote really don't seems like you going to enroll into the programme rather than more like you are one of the staff there.

why else would someone write 700 words on his first post?
it's ok. i know, you know, everyone knows :)
 

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This is a great thread. I have also been considering taking an MBA for sometime now.

Only problem is I have to travel frequently around the Asia Pac region and it is only thanks to the recent global crisis that I have been based in Singapore for a longer period. When looking for a MBA, firstly i look at the contact hours (the hours I will have with my classmates and lecturers). Secondly, the flexibility. One that will allow me to take a break for a while if I need to go overseas again.

So far the only MBA I have found that will allow me with this flexibility is Adelaide MBA. There are 4 terms a year and there are many modules which students can choose from. With 30 hours of contact hours and project work, I believe I can get to know the fellow students better.

Most of the other MBAs I have seen require u to be grounded to Singapore for at least 1.5 to 2 years. The Singapore universities MBA are even worst, where the evening classes start at 6.15pm and have to be based locally for 2-3 years with only 2 semesters a year.

I see many of those considering taking an MBAs are managers, don't you all need to travel overseas for certain durations? If yes, have u considered disruptions to your studies? Cos those fixed part-time MBAs are really rigid.
 

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This is a great thread. I have also been considering taking an MBA for sometime now.

Only problem is I have to travel frequently around the Asia Pac region and it is only thanks to the recent global crisis that I have been based in Singapore for a longer period. When looking for a MBA, firstly i look at the contact hours (the hours I will have with my classmates and lecturers). Secondly, the flexibility. One that will allow me to take a break for a while if I need to go overseas again.

So far the only MBA I have found that will allow me with this flexibility is Adelaide MBA. There are 4 terms a year and there are many modules which students can choose from. With 30 hours of contact hours and project work, I believe I can get to know the fellow students better.

Most of the other MBAs I have seen require u to be grounded to Singapore for at least 1.5 to 2 years. The Singapore universities MBA are even worst, where the evening classes start at 6.15pm and have to be based locally for 2-3 years with only 2 semesters a year.

I see many of those considering taking an MBAs are managers, don't you all need to travel overseas for certain durations? If yes, have u considered disruptions to your studies? Cos those fixed part-time MBAs are really rigid.


From what I observe and research from my friends who are doing mba. For most of the part time mbas ( other than our local ones) , full attendance is not really required . Usually, most face to face lessons with university prof is on weekends and perhaps once every few month or monthly. Personally, I tink it is quite okie for someone who travel frequently unless u r the super onz type who must die die attend all classes. I mean sometimes if the boss ask u to work late, u also cannot go for ur classes right? I will assume that being a part time course, deferment is flexible since most allow u to extend your studies up to 5-6 years. I personally dun find it rigid.

Other pple who have completed or still doing your mba, do share ur views on that.
 

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Hi Guys,

Haha, yup, certainly does soundlike I work for YMCA. But if YMCA does not even have a habit of replying emails, do you honestly think they will check forums and reply? If they do that, then I think they are already improving, as they then seem interested in what the students are talking about:) But I think the are far, far away from all that.

My 700 ++ long post is a result of copying and pasting the email reply I got from Ron Bradfield of Stratchlyde.

Anyways, I hope they improve, lets see how it goes:)
 

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Hi Guys,

Haha, yup, certainly does soundlike I work for YMCA. But if YMCA does not even have a habit of replying emails, do you honestly think they will check forums and reply? If they do that, then I think they are already improving, as they then seem interested in what the students are talking about:) But I think the are far, far away from all that.

My 700 ++ long post is a result of copying and pasting the email reply I got from Ron Bradfield of Stratchlyde.

Anyways, I hope they improve, lets see how it goes:)


Well jimmy, yes you are right, they don't reply emails AT ALL, but it doesnt means that they never received any feedback from prospect about those comments wrote in hwz.. they maybe worried that will effect numbers or etc.. so they may sign up a account and clarify such issue. But whatever it is.. since u have signed up for the programme , you just do ur best and finish it asap, anything just go to the Uni staff if the admin in YMCA are dam useless. I have already give up hope with them completely with their NON REPLY EMAILS AND CALLS.
 

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Hi Guys,

Haha, yup, certainly does soundlike I work for YMCA. But if YMCA does not even have a habit of replying emails, do you honestly think they will check forums and reply? If they do that, then I think they are already improving, as they then seem interested in what the students are talking about:) But I think the are far, far away from all that.

My 700 ++ long post is a result of copying and pasting the email reply I got from Ron Bradfield of Stratchlyde.

Anyways, I hope they improve, lets see how it goes:)

Jimmy, you sound like the battered wife with an abusive husband , constantly bearing with the tortures, giving unlimited chances to the husband, hoping that he will return to the right path.

Why dun u consider another course when it is that bad? I feel support is pretty important for an MBA course. if support is that lousy, then must as well consider self study or a online course instead. Even for delivered mba courses, there are many other equivalent quality mba of similar price tags.Have u asked yourself how much can the university supervise .... when they're so far away ? U know the chinese phrase. 远水救不了近火,远亲不如近邻
 

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Hey Guys,

Thanks for the input:) Like I said, I am interested more in the quality of the program rather than the admin staff. I have a couple of friends who have attended the course and they rave about the content and the quality of lectures.

Yes, I actually realised that if you want them to reply fast, just copy the strathclyde staff in your email. I usually gey a reply after that:)

Yup, I have not got battered yet, since I haven't started my course:)

But yes really its a personal preference. My priorities are the quality of the program and the subject matter. The bull**** admin staff are not gonna conduct any lectures or write any course material, and that's all that I care about:)
 

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Hey Guys,

Thanks for the input:) Like I said, I am interested more in the quality of the program rather than the admin staff. I have a couple of friends who have attended the course and they rave about the content and the quality of lectures.

Yes, I actually realised that if you want them to reply fast, just copy the strathclyde staff in your email. I usually gey a reply after that:)

Yup, I have not got battered yet, since I haven't started my course:)

But yes really its a personal preference. My priorities are the quality of the program and the subject matter. The bull**** admin staff are not gonna conduct any lectures or write any course material, and that's all that I care about:)


I had dropped strathclyde from my list after hearing obscene complains on the net and from my friend who is doing the course.

My friend who had attended the course before used to rave about it but now no longer.

Although the bull**** admin are not the ones conducting or writing of course materials , they are still the link to every single part of the course. I will not want to put myself up to such torture when work is already stressful. As part time student, we do not need admin hidcups to add to our burden.

Anyway , it is personal preference. I hope things will look up on ur side.
 

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hahaha, this thread so funny; a bunch of ppl trying to get intoo those cannot-make-it mba bashing each other until blue black.

don't know why u guys want to dog bite dog; all the mba u guys want to do so lousy liao still want to condemn one another's program to death. sure help in your own mba's marketability. hahahaha
 

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hahaha, this thread so funny; a bunch of ppl trying to get intoo those cannot-make-it mba bashing each other until blue black.

don't know why u guys want to dog bite dog; all the mba u guys want to do so lousy liao still want to condemn one another's program to death. sure help in your own mba's marketability. hahahaha

We are only contributing constructive comments on selecting a mid tier mba.Aren't you also participating in this thread?

I can’t get into or afford the exhorbitant fees or to leave my job to study full time for a top notch mba like insead . Life is about living within your constraints, choosing the best among our limited choices. I can't afford a Lamborghini but that doesn't deter me to buy a toyota to drive me around
 

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Well said Cfachick! We're on the same page. It's either a mid tier MBA or no MBA. I simply cannot afford to splurge $120k on an INSEAD MBA, and quit my job at the same time.

I suggest you look into Manchester. It's around $50k, but the course is said to be pretty good, and is certainly more recognized among the mid tier MBAs.

There will be a meet the student session by Susan nd Ron from Strathclyde, just prior to the start of my semester. I am gonna take this all the way to the end, and perhaps I can show them this thread. This is their program, for crying out loud, and not YMCA's. If they don't get involved, then I really have nothing to say.

:)
 

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hahaha, this thread so funny; a bunch of ppl trying to get intoo those cannot-make-it mba bashing each other until blue black.

don't know why u guys want to dog bite dog; all the mba u guys want to do so lousy liao still want to condemn one another's program to death. sure help in your own mba's marketability. hahahaha

Different people got different needs and priorities. So there is nothing wrong with going for a Part-Time MBA as long as it meets their career goals. And obviously there is a demand for part-time MBAs since these schools are offering such courses in Singapore.

At least the people here are going for their MBAs. I wonder if "callingmegod" even has a chance to do MBA, full-time or part-time, local or overseas, and it is not a case of sour grapes.
 

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Different people got different needs and priorities. So there is nothing wrong with going for a Part-Time MBA as long as it meets their career goals. And obviously there is a demand for part-time MBAs since these schools are offering such courses in Singapore.

At least the people here are going for their MBAs. I wonder if "callingmegod" even has a chance to do MBA, full-time or part-time, local or overseas, and it is not a case of sour grapes.

yea, among those who took part-time MBA may have some who has very good management or leadership capability but just lack the qualification to shine out.... a part-time mba match those ppl very well especially the firm is very dependent on them to lead the company.
 
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