Which MBA?

[sAVaGEmP5]

Well i am also looking for an MBA... 6 months ago. I thot MBA wld be suited for investment banking, equity analyst kinda of jobs, cos I dun see any other types of jobs that requires MBA. In fact i thot you will be overqualified.

And the next thing that i am wondering is most ppl here wanted an MBA, so can switch jobs, switch jobs + switch role. But for what ? To climb the corporate ladder I suppose ? But guess what, research has shown, and we can obviously see for ourselves, most management level stuff are mostly the longest working people 'lao jiao' in a company.

So i guess... i am saving this money for my investment fund haha. just what i think of right now lol.

 

[sAVaGEmP5]

haha no respond ah. why i ask so cos. i intially i set my heart on nottingham cos. i want a Postgrad that will be conduct at a bigger private school. However, now birmingham have moved to sim ge so i having 2nd thought. headache..........

my friend plan to take MBA together with me but her first degree it not an honours and entry requirment for birmingham is a good honour so i am also worry she will not be accepted. Our plan is to take together cos. can encourage each other.

missotah count me in for... previews hehe? Thot of birmingham, too and becos its at SIM.

 

[missotah]

Well i am also looking for an MBA... 6 months ago. I thot MBA wld be suited for investment banking, equity analyst kinda of jobs, cos I dun see any other types of jobs that requires MBA. In fact i thot you will be overqualified.

And the next thing that i am wondering is most ppl here wanted an MBA, so can switch jobs, switch jobs + switch role. But for what ? To climb the corporate ladder I suppose ? But guess what, research has shown, and we can obviously see for ourselves, most management level stuff are mostly the longest working people 'lao jiao' in a company.

So i guess... i am saving this money for my investment fund haha. just what i think of right now lol.

Why i want take MBA now because, i does not really matter that much whether the MBA will bring me to another level within this few years.

reason 1: I dun want to be an old worker then i realised i want to do my MBA, then realised all classmates are so young.

reason 2: Nowadays, whole street also Degree holders(in chinese), at least equip yourself with the qualification to avoid staffs who are initially more junior to you to climb over you or think that they can replace you etc.

Reason 3: At least when there is a higher position that you may be interested in and boss is considering, maybe have some chance that boss will consider you.

Reason 4: networking

Reason 5............Reason 6......................

 

[eddykuan]

Hi all,

I noticed that this thread started by Inspiron510m back in 2008 and the conversation went to specifically discussing on the Strathclyde MBA program which is what I'm looking for. I don't think I've the time to read all 30 over pages over the last 2 years on what was really going on as I only have one main concern here.

I'm interested in this Strathclyde MBA program reason being their accreditation, diversify students, well-structured and etc. however, one concern on this is that this program seems to be a bit strategy oriented as highlighted by some hardwarezoners here.

my main question here is, how well is this MBA program able to guide/teach/nurture/prepare its' students who aspire to become an entrepreneur to have an entrepreneurial skills? Reason why I'm asking this question is, when you compare other school's program, they've separate entrepreneurship course. as for this Strathclyde program, from the YMCA/Strathclyde website, we can see they've entrepreneurship course as well but was categorized under elective. further understanding from the YMCA education consultant, that this elective courses were subjected to change and based on the previous year, Strathclyde didn't conduct any entrepreneurship course.

I've met another consultant and he replied me when I asked about entrepreneurship course, he said, you don't need to study entrepreneurship courses to become an entrepreneur, how well is this statement hold in the sense of studying a general MBA without entrepreneur courses?

When I compare and understand the MBA curriculum by a few schools, I realized the main core modules would be something like Economics, Finance, Accounting, Managing People, Marketing, Operation Management and Strategy Management. will these core modules sufficient enough to guide the MBA students to acquire the entrepreneurial skill sets? Or will any general MBA program help/guide its' student to become an entrepreneur?

Many thanks and best regards,
eddykuan

 

[Laserrun]

how do you all think about MBA from Murdoch university from Kaplan?

 

[Gummyboy]

Hi all,

I noticed that this thread started by Inspiron510m back in 2008 and the conversation went to specifically discussing on the Strathclyde MBA program which is what I'm looking for. I don't think I've the time to read all 30 over pages over the last 2 years on what was really going on as I only have one main concern here.

I'm interested in this Strathclyde MBA program reason being their accreditation, diversify students, well-structured and etc. however, one concern on this is that this program seems to be a bit strategy oriented as highlighted by some hardwarezoners here.

my main question here is, how well is this MBA program able to guide/teach/nurture/prepare its' students who aspire to become an entrepreneur to have an entrepreneurial skills? Reason why I'm asking this question is, when you compare other school's program, they've separate entrepreneurship course. as for this Strathclyde program, from the YMCA/Strathclyde website, we can see they've entrepreneurship course as well but was categorized under elective. further understanding from the YMCA education consultant, that this elective courses were subjected to change and based on the previous year, Strathclyde didn't conduct any entrepreneurship course.

I've met another consultant and he replied me when I asked about entrepreneurship course, he said, you don't need to study entrepreneurship courses to become an entrepreneur, how well is this statement hold in the sense of studying a general MBA without entrepreneur courses?

When I compare and understand the MBA curriculum by a few schools, I realized the main core modules would be something like Economics, Finance, Accounting, Managing People, Marketing, Operation Management and Strategy Management. will these core modules sufficient enough to guide the MBA students to acquire the entrepreneurial skill sets? Or will any general MBA program help/guide its' student to become an entrepreneur?

Many thanks and best regards,
eddykuan

Frankly I think that pin-pointing on Entrepreneurship as a core may not be possible for General MBA. However, I believed that there are electives you can choose just that it may not be offered in Singapore Classes. For StrathClyde, I believed you can travel to a centre that offers that elective during your semester that does the elective.

Each International Center will cater the elective based on demands. Naturally, entrepreneurs are lower in numbers vs Managers.

 

[Isman Tanuri]

Hi all,

I noticed that this thread started by Inspiron510m back in 2008 and the conversation went to specifically discussing on the Strathclyde MBA program which is what I'm looking for. I don't think I've the time to read all 30 over pages over the last 2 years on what was really going on as I only have one main concern here.

I'm interested in this Strathclyde MBA program reason being their accreditation, diversify students, well-structured and etc. however, one concern on this is that this program seems to be a bit strategy oriented as highlighted by some hardwarezoners here.

my main question here is, how well is this MBA program able to guide/teach/nurture/prepare its' students who aspire to become an entrepreneur to have an entrepreneurial skills? Reason why I'm asking this question is, when you compare other school's program, they've separate entrepreneurship course. as for this Strathclyde program, from the YMCA/Strathclyde website, we can see they've entrepreneurship course as well but was categorized under elective. further understanding from the YMCA education consultant, that this elective courses were subjected to change and based on the previous year, Strathclyde didn't conduct any entrepreneurship course.

I've met another consultant and he replied me when I asked about entrepreneurship course, he said, you don't need to study entrepreneurship courses to become an entrepreneur, how well is this statement hold in the sense of studying a general MBA without entrepreneur courses?

When I compare and understand the MBA curriculum by a few schools, I realized the main core modules would be something like Economics, Finance, Accounting, Managing People, Marketing, Operation Management and Strategy Management. will these core modules sufficient enough to guide the MBA students to acquire the entrepreneurial skill sets? Or will any general MBA program help/guide its' student to become an entrepreneur?

Many thanks and best regards,
eddykuan

Hi Eddy,

I will be attending Strathclyde MBA this April and you've rightly pointed out the exact same reasons why I chose Strathclyde over all others. However, I haven't seen an MBA program in Singapore that focuses on entrepreneurship in its core modules. Most MBA programs offer entrepreneurship classes as electives, even at INSEAD.

That said, the core modules themselves should provide you with the theoretical knowledge on building, managing and guiding your future business. As they say, the best corporate executives are entrepreneurs in their own division. It's all about making things happen.

In fact, as an entrepreneur, you won't be starting out immediately with a $100million business to manage. You will be starting a small outfit, so there should be enough lessons in MBA studies to provide you with a good foundation. And this is where I believe a strategy-focused MBA will be very useful, to chart and forsee the growth of your own company.

I really believe entrepreneurship can't be taught because it is ultimately about having the courage to make things happen. Your MBA education should be a guide and something to fall back on, not a pre-requisite to a successful entrepreneurial career. In fact, most successful and influential Silicon Valley entrepreneurs think that an MBA education is a waste of time. Guy Kawasaki (one of Apple's earliest employees and has an MBA) talked about this in his lecture at Stanford.

Just like you, I plan to start my own technology startup too. Here's a tip: I have also been accepted to attend Founder Institute, (also starting this April) which is a global Silicon Valley program for entrepreneurs. This is a more specific program in entrepreneurial education. I am more excited about meeting the successful entrepreneur mentors they'll be flying in for guidance and advice as these are what you need to build businesses. And essentially, the theoretical lessons can be found online.

I hope that helps. Cheers!

 

[eddykuan]

many thanks for Gummyboy and Isman for their kind feedback.

probably entrepreneurship is just a subset of a business administration. they're essentially the same and if we were taught in managing our business well, it will definitely helps in building an entrepreneurial skills.

im actually in the midst of taking up strathclyde or others program with more preference towards strathclyde. with these precious comments, ive more confidence in the strathclyde program for having such a good accreditation, ranking and post-mba outcome (source from http://www.mbasingapore.asia/mba-singapore-ranking-2010).

hope the april intake still open.

cheers,
eddykuan

 

[InnovaIQ]

where to get more info on Strathclyde MBA ?

whats admission + course fees?

 

[little_prince]

where to get more info on Strathclyde MBA ?

whats admission + course fees?

if you need to be spoonfed to such an extent then you're probably not ready for a MBA yet

 

[Gummyboy]

if you need to be spoonfed to such an extent then you're probably not ready for a MBA yet

Haha, I like that one Little Prince.

Perhaps some MBAs can, but definitely not StrathClyde.

 

[braduate]

Hi Eddy,

I will be attending Strathclyde MBA this April and you've rightly pointed out the exact same reasons why I chose Strathclyde over all others. However, I haven't seen an MBA program in Singapore that focuses on entrepreneurship in its core modules. Most MBA programs offer entrepreneurship classes as electives, even at INSEAD.

That said, the core modules themselves should provide you with the theoretical knowledge on building, managing and guiding your future business. As they say, the best corporate executives are entrepreneurs in their own division. It's all about making things happen.

In fact, as an entrepreneur, you won't be starting out immediately with a $100million business to manage. You will be starting a small outfit, so there should be enough lessons in MBA studies to provide you with a good foundation. And this is where I believe a strategy-focused MBA will be very useful, to chart and forsee the growth of your own company.

I really believe entrepreneurship can't be taught because it is ultimately about having the courage to make things happen. Your MBA education should be a guide and something to fall back on, not a pre-requisite to a successful entrepreneurial career. In fact, most successful and influential Silicon Valley entrepreneurs think that an MBA education is a waste of time. Guy Kawasaki (one of Apple's earliest employees and has an MBA) talked about this in his lecture at Stanford.

Just like you, I plan to start my own technology startup too. Here's a tip: I have also been accepted to attend Founder Institute, (also starting this April) which is a global Silicon Valley program for entrepreneurs. This is a more specific program in entrepreneurial education. I am more excited about meeting the successful entrepreneur mentors they'll be flying in for guidance and advice as these are what you need to build businesses. And essentially, the theoretical lessons can be found online.

I hope that helps. Cheers!

i use to think along the same line, but there are models and theories for entrepreneurship and it is not the same as the business/mgmt models of P5F, CAN, SWOT, PESTEL, MASLOW blah blah. there really are specfic entrepreneurship models that are worth taking it up as a separate degree. Of cos the idealistic educator would argue that creativity and innovation shouldn't be restricted and by learning these models you are already restricting your potentials. Its up to how you look at it. The bottom line is, business/mgmt and entrepreneurship are very different topics/cores/subjects/degrees no matter how you want to classify it. If you think all the MP models can give you innovation/creativity.....then.....

 

[Ultimate10002000]

Is there any part time MBA that doesn't require any working experience as one of its requirements ?

 

[sAVaGEmP5]

Is there any part time MBA that doesn't require any working experience as one of its requirements ?

Hmm, no corporate working experience ? What business you got, sell KOI bubble tea ?

 

[DavidMuthu]

if you need to be spoonfed to such an extent then you're probably not ready for a MBA yet

Need to be careful on the kind of MBA that you choose. Important thing is to see whether it is relevant to your next career move.

 

[friendlyguy]

Hmm, no corporate working experience ? What business you got, sell KOI bubble tea ?

how's your CAIA?

I am doing day trading + working as an auditor.
I have just traded for 3 weeks, gain net 5%. 60% in a year, heex.
why do people need MBA if they can accummulate money in investing.

 

[sAVaGEmP5]

I halted my CAIA prep. Same, been doing well with managing my own investments. So far since inception 2009 till now bringing back 6-8% PA. 5% in 3 weeks... dun be too happy so fast, try doing that consistently for 300 weeks, a term called 'Track record'. Its still about how you manage things.

Right now I am trying to sell my way into buy side funds. The reason that still need MBA / CFA etc cos in finance industry, in particular research analysts positions, still requires MBA / CFA. And the chance to manage 50-100 millions, not easy.

Its the same when one wants an MBA to get into higher lvl positions, not managing $100m, but maybe 1000 people, 20 offices, or similar capacity resources.

 

[marandaz]

Hi people,

My current job scope is a Research Assistant, which as the name suggest, does not involved in people or resource management.

I have sourced for a few MBAs & one of their requirement for admission is having experience in management.

Hence, is there any MBAs that does not need this requirement.


TIA

 

[Kyoji83]

Just apply.

In the 1st place, MBA don't really needs to have management skills to enter the course.

As RA, just claim you needs to manage your time, coordinate with other RAs/Lab staffs by planning, monitor, review & etc.

Hi people,

My current job scope is a Research Assistant, which as the name suggest, does not involved in people or resource management.

I have sourced for a few MBAs & one of their requirement for admission is having experience in management.

Hence, is there any MBAs that does not need this requirement.


TIA

 

[htngwilliam]

I read about the Strathclyde MBA when I google it on google.com.sg. It seems that the local vendor is YMCA. Is it correct?

As I will be traveling a lot, I am also looking for an MBA with more flexibility but so far I have read about Strathclyde MBA and Manchester being flexible. What about Uni of Adeliade at Ngee Ann Kongsi?