which platform do you study first for your cloud courses?

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Study? Nope. Jump into it first yes, AWS back in around 2009.

If you are starting it today, I will recommend AWS first, follow Azure and then GCP.

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bro david, why do you recommend AWS first? :)
 

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Because it is the largest cloud provider in the world today, and it has very vibrant features and sales concept. You can of course get started with Azure if the env you are in is a M$ shop.

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Wow ! Even you refer to Microsoft as M$. I have a Amazon account for buying things from Amazon. Can I set up AWS with it for free ?
 

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Wow ! Even you refer to Microsoft as M$. I have a Amazon account for buying things from Amazon. Can I set up AWS with it for free ?

It is convenient to refer to M$ just as it is convenient to refer to k8s, and obviously from history we know why it is M$. lol

AWS account has just recently been separated from Amazon (e-commerce) account. Fundamentally you are looking at 2 business entities own under the same group.

AWS has free web tier. Read up about it.
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It is convenient to refer to M$ just as it is convenient to refer to k8s, and obviously from history we know why it is M$. lol

AWS account has just recently been separated from Amazon (e-commerce) account. Fundamentally you are looking at 2 business entities own under the same group.

AWS has free web tier. Read up about it.
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if i work with azure due to past job should i seek aws certification instead
 

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if i work with azure due to past job should i seek aws certification instead

are u those that collect certs like trophies, if so then the answer is obvious.

otherwise go for knowledge n be certified to tell those that doesn’t know enough about it that u r good at it. the rest that knows aws will know u from what u talk about it, not the cert.

i was certified twice n now i am not. it is a boring activity.

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are u those that collect certs like trophies, if so then the answer is obvious.

otherwise go for knowledge n be certified to tell those that doesn’t know enough about it that u r good at it. the rest that knows aws will know u from what u talk about it, not the cert.

i was certified twice n now i am not. it is a boring activity.

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If someone has the knowledge of AWS but not hands-on, will you hire the person?
 

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If someone has the knowledge of AWS but not hands-on, will you hire the person?

Define what do you mean by the person “knows” if the person is not hands-on. What kind of usefulness would the “knows” translate to when used in the working context ?

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Define what do you mean by the person “knows” if the person is not hands-on. What kind of usefulness would the “knows” translate to when used in the working context ?

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I mean someone who can explain how S3 storage classes work based on his cert study. And maybe create some lab to test different storage classes. But never use S3 in real life production environment.
 

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I mean someone who can explain how S3 storage classes work based on his cert study. And maybe create some lab to test different storage classes. But never use S3 in real life production environment.

It only matters what you know and what you can do with it, not what certs you hold. When you are tested, what you know decides what you can answer. Hands on or not depends on what exactly you are hired for.

Someone like myself whom knows AWS enough will be able to ask questions to test if you merely touch and go, or you really know your subjects in depth. Certs or no certs doesn’t matter to me. If you dare to show me your cert/degree, be prepared to stand by it. That is what the certs mean to me, you are telling me you are good enough to hold the certs, hence I will be testing how good you claimed you are.

Storage classes in S3 are superficial knowledge, good enough for sales talk. Minimal knowledge I will looking for in an engineer whom knows S3 will be how to use it conjunction with other AWS services, presigned url, security policies on it, it’s scalability and redundancy features, how its costing model works, how it manage the prefixes, static webhosting with it, etc. Then I will know how much you know about AWS S3.

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It only matters what you know and what you can do with it, not what certs you hold. When you are tested, what you know decides what you can answer. Hands on or not depends on what exactly you are hired for.

Someone like myself whom knows AWS enough will be able to ask questions to test if you merely touch and go, or you really know your subjects in depth. Certs or no certs doesn’t matter to me. If you dare to show me your cert/degree, be prepared to stand by it. That is what the certs mean to me, you are telling me you are good enough to hold the certs, hence I will be testing how good you claimed you are.

Storage classes in S3 are superficial knowledge, good enough for sales talk. Minimal knowledge I will looking for in an engineer whom knows S3 will be how to use it conjunction with other AWS services, presigned url, security policies on it, it’s scalability and redundancy features, how its costing model works, how it manage the prefixes, static webhosting with it, etc. Then I will know how much you know about AWS S3.

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Hello David,
I have itching to try and help someone with a small office with about 10 staffs. This office has about 1000 phone and email contacts. A simple central database accessible by all staffs would help their workflow. Remember that flutter thread that I have posted earlier, it was for this purpose. A simple system accessible by smartphone and PC and database resides on the AWS. Workable?

Thanks in advance.
 

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Hello David,
I have itching to try and help someone with a small office with about 10 staffs. This office has about 1000 phone and email contacts. A simple central database accessible by all staffs would help their workflow. Remember that flutter thread that I have posted earlier, it was for this purpose. A simple system accessible by smartphone and PC and database resides on the AWS. Workable?

Thanks in advance.

For personnel information, LDAP system is the best. Microsoft AD is an implementation of LDAP. Normally a lot of other solutions have OOTB integration with LDAP solutions to provide access to persons information.

https://aws.amazon.com/directoryservice/
It can be cheaper but more hassle if you setup an EC2 instance and deploy your own ldap solution, say using
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenLDAPhttps://bitnami.com/stack/openldap
Just to give you an example how M$ Teams integrate with LDAP for contacts information
https://tray.io/connectors/microsoft-teams-ldap-integrations
and Apple Mail
https://support.apple.com/en-sg/guide/directory-utility/diru566b498a/mac
 
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@peterchan75
If you are feeling up to it, this will be a fun exercise
https://metacpan.org/pod/Net::LDAP::Server
With it, you can even easily query your own brew from S3 via S3 select (https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/userguide/s3-select-sql-reference-select.html)

LDAP is the protocol, the storage is nothing more than a glorified tree structure, which S3 prefix simulated that across all the objects, and you can query it like a database.

Fun thing to do… I might give it a go and see what can be learnt from such an exercise.

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If you are feeling up to it, this will be a fun exercise
https://metacpan.org/pod/Net::LDAP::Server
With it, you can even easily query your own brew from S3 via S3 select (https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AmazonS3/latest/userguide/s3-select-sql-reference-select.html)

LDAP is the protocol, the storage is nothing more than a glorified tree structure, which S3 prefix simulated that across all the objects, and you can query it like a database.

Fun thing to do… I might give it a go and see what can be learnt from such an exercise.

:)
Hi David,
Thank you very much for the tips.
Let me do some deep dive before I go for it.
 

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Hi David,
Thank you very much for the tips.
Let me do some deep dive before I go for it.

This is not a solution, it is just a fun integration. You should use a proper ldap solution for any client facing work.

I am just suggesting to you since you know Perl and play with it. Use a cli ldap tool to issue ldap commands to the perl ldap server and observe what the perl server attempt to enquire from your code.

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