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Here are my recommended drinking windows.

La Ferme Du mont Cotes Due Rhone Villages 2009 - by 2014
Ch Trigant - Pessac-leognan 2007 - by 2015
L'agassant D'agassac Huat-medoc 2006 - by 2016
Cotes de Provence Roche roses - 2010 - by 2011
Sancerre - les Monehottes - 2010 - by 2013
Charles De Courance Champagne - by 2011
Wolfblass eagle hawk Chardonnay 2010 - by 2011
 
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haha if I open it, gonna be me alone drinking it. But I will try to see if I can find anyone to enjoy this wine soon. If I do I will definitely let you know how it goes...

Anyway how do you guys usually judge when to open the wine?
 

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haha if I open it, gonna be me alone drinking it. But I will try to see if I can find anyone to enjoy this wine soon. If I do I will definitely let you know how it goes...

Anyway how do you guys usually judge when to open the wine?

no one usually drinks along with you?

you can never judge 100% accurately. it's a bit of research, experience and luck.
 
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Nope. My family don't drink. I got a couple of friends who drink but we meet like once every month.

I see. Plenty more for me to discover and learn about wine.:s12:
 

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looks like u need to join our outings to ensure you have a properly consumption program :)
 

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Yeah, the $30 tix sounds enticing:
- Free entry to Wine Fiesta 2011
- A bottle of 750ml wine (retailed at $30 or more) OR
- A copy of the book “108 Great Chinese Cuisine Paired” by eminent writer Ch’ng Poh Tiong (retailed at $65)
Note: redemption of items are subject to stock availability
- Free entry to Wine Style Asia Award Tasting Area
- 2 complimentary premium labels tasting coupons

Aside, been exploring Bordeaux wines of late; reading up, rather than drinking, ever since buying this Chapelle de Potensac, 2004, on sale at NTUC, thus reading about this Cru Bourgeouis Exceptionnel producer, and the Medoc classifications of First to Fifth Growths etc, as well as previous discussion on this thread. I know 2004 wasn't a great vintage, but decided to snap it up anyways since it was going at $26 offer (from $45) to further my Bordeaux education.

Some other Bordeaux offers now at NTUC AMK/Jurong are also second wines, Les Fiefs de Lagrange (third growth) & Prelude A Grand-Puy (fifth growth) Ducasse, at 39 bones each. Would these be good buys, if for decent vintages like 2008 & 2009? Yeah, I will take the classification hierarchy with a pinch of salt, but at the moment I just want to find out what some good Bordeaux can offer, without spending too much - as always :p

Passed by the Suntec wine fair yesterday, at around 10pm, when most of the promoters had gone. Saw the 2007 and 2008 Chateau Brilletes at the table, still some samplings left in the bottles so I poured for myself! Wow, the 2007 was so much more flavourful and open compared to the 2008. My question is, how do you know:

1 If this is due to the vintage of 2007 vs 2008
2 If this is due to bottle aging, ie 2007 had one more year to lie down
3 If this is due to bottle breathing, ie how long these wines have been open for on the day?

My guess is a mixture of the latter two, probably more of point number 3? Interestingly the 2007 was about 10 bucks more than the 2008, will this be because Carrefour had to release them / store them for another year? Or simply cos this is the ready to drink vintage?
 
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Aside, been exploring Bordeaux wines of late; reading up, rather than drinking, ever since buying this Chapelle de Potensac, 2004, on sale at NTUC, thus reading about this Cru Bourgeouis Exceptionnel producer, and the Medoc classifications of First to Fifth Growths etc, as well as previous discussion on this thread. I know 2004 wasn't a great vintage, but decided to snap it up anyways since it was going at $26 offer (from $45) to further my Bordeaux education.

Some other Bordeaux offers now at NTUC AMK/Jurong are also second wines, Les Fiefs de Lagrange (third growth) & Prelude A Grand-Puy (fifth growth) Ducasse, at 39 bones each. Would these be good buys, if for decent vintages like 2008 & 2009? Yeah, I will take the classification hierarchy with a pinch of salt, but at the moment I just want to find out what some good Bordeaux can offer, without spending too much - as always :p

Passed by the Suntec wine fair yesterday, at around 10pm, when most of the promoters had gone. Saw the 2007 and 2008 Chateau Brilletes at the table, still some samplings left in the bottles so I poured for myself! Wow, the 2007 was so much more flavourful and open compared to the 2008. My question is, how do you know:

1 If this is due to the vintage of 2007 vs 2008
2 If this is due to bottle aging, ie 2007 had one more year to lie down
3 If this is due to bottle breathing, ie how long these wines have been open for on the day?

My guess is a mixture of the latter two, probably more of point number 3? Interestingly the 2007 was about 10 bucks more than the 2008, will this be because Carrefour had to release them / store them for another year? Or simply cos this is the ready to drink vintage?

Bordeaux
In comparison the 09 was better for the long haul than the 08. but them being 2nd wines, try to consume them within 5-10 years. buy as much bordeaux as you'd like and take note of the sub appellations. not so much the Xth Growth or a lower Cru (although the Cru Bourgeouis structure was revamped earlier this year) but instead of the regional typicity of a Margaux vs Pessac Leognan vs Pomerol etc...

Brillette vs Brillette
Personally i dunno how long they were open for so its tough to tell. if anything, overall 08 was generally a better vintage than 07 but not by much. It could be a whole lot of factors. As for the pricing, it could just be a supply chain issue or pricing according to the perception that older wine is better?
 

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Bordeaux
In comparison the 09 was better for the long haul than the 08. but them being 2nd wines, try to consume them within 5-10 years. buy as much bordeaux as you'd like and take note of the sub appellations. not so much the Xth Growth or a lower Cru (although the Cru Bourgeouis structure was revamped earlier this year) but instead of the regional typicity of a Margaux vs Pessac Leognan vs Pomerol etc...

I see. Notice you mentioned Margaux (LB, Haut-Medoc), Pessac Leognan (LB, Graves) and Pomerol (RB), is it reasonable to assume that the regional typicity between these regions would be greater that for eg. between the more common Haut Medoc areas, like Pauillac, St Estephe, St Julien etc?

Enjoy your Italian wine outing tonight guys, wish I was there! Love Italian wine and food, and they go together so well... I popped a 2007 Barbera d'Alba yesterday (Marchesi di Barolo) yesterday and it was excellent. Barbera make such good food wines, with plenty of good fruit and acidity. In the hands of a good producer, the wine I had also had that extra structure and finesse to it. Good value at ~$35 (on offer).
 

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I see. Notice you mentioned Margaux (LB, Haut-Medoc), Pessac Leognan (LB, Graves) and Pomerol (RB), is it reasonable to assume that the regional typicity between these regions would be greater that for eg. between the more common Haut Medoc areas, like Pauillac, St Estephe, St Julien etc?

Enjoy your Italian wine outing tonight guys, wish I was there! Love Italian wine and food, and they go together so well... I popped a 2007 Barbera d'Alba yesterday (Marchesi di Barolo) yesterday and it was excellent. Barbera make such good food wines, with plenty of good fruit and acidity. In the hands of a good producer, the wine I had also had that extra structure and finesse to it. Good value at ~$35 (on offer).


not at all, those i gave were merely examples. there are discernable differences even within the Haut Medoc areas.

glad u enjoyed your barbera.

here are pics of the 3 wines i drank last weekend with my friends. These are some of the oldest wines i had. The Dolcetto and Bonnezeaux were mine while the Rioja were my friend's.

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1985 Pio Cesare Dolcetto d'Alba - my oldest wine (my age too!) Drinking like a aged pinot noir!

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2001 Lealtanza Reserva - my friend's Spanish wine from Rioja. Classic aged tempranillo rioja flavours. smooth medium fruit with lots of earthy, tobacco notes.

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1996 Chateau de Fesles Bonnezeaux - bought this a year ago. Will need to buy this again even at the $70+ from Carrefour. Worth every penny.
 

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I Still thinking as i might need to work on that day..... U got the tixs thur FB? Mine got issue with the FB, don't seem to display the icon to buy.
 

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fb as in facebook? no i went to the wine fiesta main site and bought it there.
 

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www.thelocalnose.com has released their new reviews for their wines at the Carrefour wine fair. they include a lot of the wines that some of you bought :) do take a look and see if u agree!
 

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Bought this wine yesterday for a birthday dinner tonight - Vino Nobile di Montepulciano by Ruffino, 2007. Fair value, I thought, at a price of many entry level Chianti/Classicos by other major producers. Of course, there are Chiantis and there are Chiantis; there's a wide range of style and quality levels of this famous wine. Anyway will taste it and find out tonight.
ikileo - do you have any impressions of this wine? I entered it into my cellartracker and found you gave some tasting notes! From a Culina tasting.
Will decant it for at least two hours before drinking over a long dinner, hopefully.

Btw I opened the Vinaceous Red Right Hand wine I bought at Le Vigne. Shiraz - Grenache - Tempranillo blend. A very approachable, easy drinking - is this what you call 'quaffable'? - wine with a juicy, delicious quality, full of red fruit and candy notes. Nice, but apart from the beautiful label, and unless I'm entertaining some casual wine drinkers, don't think I'll get it again. I prefer something more dark-fruited. Funny this was, I was having it with bakuteh (black type) and the wine brought out lots of spice and pepper flavours on the finish. Dunno if it's the soup or the wine, cos black bakuteh does not have that much pepper as the white type.

Local Nose review:
http://www.thelocalnose.com/index.php/wine-review?product_id=32756&vendor=44
 
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