Wine

[ikileo]

I like the Marchesi di Barolo's Sarmassa. Super heavy bodied, I like. I visited their winery 2 years ago, met the owner, very nice woman. Very impressed with their wine making process. I usually have the alot of bak kwa, shabu shabu and all the other heaty stuff! hahah!

I tried CVNE Imperial Gran Reserva 2009 when I was last in Haro. Agreed with you that is is a great wine. But my Rioja fave is still the Prado Enea 2006 from Muga. You should try the Vina Real Gran Reserva 2009 also from CVNE. Almost half the price compared to the CVNE Imperial but taste good!

How much was the monthly tasting?

Cheers!

that's quite a rich and big barolo which seem quite popular in the local market. Marchesi di Barolo is definitely one of the more well known producers too!

you should venture out to explore smaller and very good barolo producers too that make more elegant style of barolo; so less oak but you can taste the lovely balance of power and finesse. The ones i've had recently was from the producer: Pecchenino, 'Le Coste' Barolo.

it was well reviewed/scored and one of those more under the radar types of superb barolos that don't break the bank. you should try them; they're available in SG.



mine is the Vina Real 1990 from CVNE. i gravitate more towards the old school style of Rioja where it's at least 10-15 years old before attempting to open a bottle. The 1990 i tasted was still super fresh & vibrant!

love muga too! 06 is tasty but still needs time IMO. last year i opened 2 of the '04 Prado Eneas and they were just barely starting to enter their optimal drinking window! but too bad i have no more prado eneas. The good producers really need age on their higher bottles.


the tasting is not really a tasting. it's an informal gathering of wine newbies & enthusiasts from HWZ that have come and gone over the years of this WINE thread that I started back in university. we have a blind theme, we bring the wines and have them over dinner; then we discuss. we only pay for our own wines and for our share of the dinner.

 

[ikileo]

Newbie here. What's the best wine below $50? Vivino app reliable?

Hey hello! Welcome! Thanks for the qn.

That's a very broad question cos wine is so subjective to an individual's taste (regardless of whether it's recorded on vivino). Are you looking for a red, white, sparkling, dessert? Any preferred countries or regions? Are there other wines you enjoyed recently than we can reference from?

Or is this intended as a gift? If so do u have any idea as to what the recipient generally likes?

Or do u intend for the wine to be drunk at a dinner occasion? If so let us know what u will likely be having it with and we can give the relevant recommendations.

If helps a lot if you can give us some details

 

[[C]hEWy]

So helpful. Forgot this is not Edmw.

I drink a lot of tea, especially Chinese tea. Thought I should try some wine since those that are into both often say that with the exception of alcohol in wine, both have many aspects that can be applied with regards to aroma and flavor.
Maybe a red wine? No preference on regions...yet. No idea about any of their terroir. I have never enjoyed wine. That said, I have only tried the wine offered during weddings. I have never made a real effort to find the good ones so I thought I could get some help from the pros over here. Getting drunk or not doesn't matter to me, as long as it taste or smells good, preferably both. I understand it's a very wide topic and will read up on my own too. Thanks!

Bro, still very subjective.. But maybe you can try walking into Wine Connection.. They have the enomatic wine dispensers (you could try at tasting portions first, sometimes they give you a free $10 card).. See which type of wines you like first then start exploring from there..

Praelum and St. Regis also has these machines.. if u like to try..

I started my wine drinking with Aussie merlots.. Maybe you can try? Haha

Just my 2cents

 

[kunzzy]

So helpful. Forgot this is not Edmw.

I drink a lot of tea, especially Chinese tea. Thought I should try some wine since those that are into both often say that with the exception of alcohol in wine, both have many aspects that can be applied with regards to aroma and flavor.
Maybe a red wine? No preference on regions...yet. No idea about any of their terroir. I have never enjoyed wine. That said, I have only tried the wine offered during weddings. I have never made a real effort to find the good ones so I thought I could get some help from the pros over here. Getting drunk or not doesn't matter to me, as long as it taste or smells good, preferably both. I understand it's a very wide topic and will read up on my own too. Thanks!

I will start with what grapes you like first. cabernet Sauvignon, pinot noir, syrahz, merlot, malbec....etc. once you can identify what you like, you can start to explore which regions you will like ie france, italy, spain, australia, new zealand etc....

you can also gather some frens share bottles and drink together then like that wont be so expensive....or you can join meetup wine groups and meet other wine lovers and share experience.

 

[ikileo]

So helpful. Forgot this is not Edmw.

I drink a lot of tea, especially Chinese tea. Thought I should try some wine since those that are into both often say that with the exception of alcohol in wine, both have many aspects that can be applied with regards to aroma and flavor.
Maybe a red wine? No preference on regions...yet. No idea about any of their terroir. I have never enjoyed wine. That said, I have only tried the wine offered during weddings. I have never made a real effort to find the good ones so I thought I could get some help from the pros over here. Getting drunk or not doesn't matter to me, as long as it taste or smells good, preferably both. I understand it's a very wide topic and will read up on my own too. Thanks!

this is definitely not EDMW haha. the replies from Kunzzy and Chewy are great; take their advice!

it is a wide topic and since you also don't have a palate preference; it would be good to understand what you didn't like about your past wine experiences since you have never enjoyed it previously. From there we can see what your palate doesn't like.

as Chewy mentioned, wine connection is a great place to start. i started there too. go there a few times, order by the glass and remember what you tried that you like. snap a pic of the bottles. take note of the grape variety, producer and region that it's from.

from there it will help build your frame of reference. to explore futher.

everytime you go there drink a different wine. As Kunzzy mentioned try different red grapes to start in general from fresher light weight style to richer heavier styles:

- Pinot Noir
- Merlot
- Shiraz/Syrah
- Cabernet Sauvignon

Start with these 4 very common grapes. Those should keep you busy for the next few months.

 

[[C]hEWy]

this is definitely not EDMW haha. the replies from Kunzzy and Chewy are great; take their advice!

it is a wide topic and since you also don't have a palate preference; it would be good to understand what you didn't like about your past wine experiences since you have never enjoyed it previously. From there we can see what your palate doesn't like.

as Chewy mentioned, wine connection is a great place to start. i started there too. go there a few times, order by the glass and remember what you tried that you like. snap a pic of the bottles. take note of the grape variety, producer and region that it's from.

from there it will help build your frame of reference. to explore futher.

everytime you go there drink a different wine. As Kunzzy mentioned try different red grapes to start in general from fresher light weight style to richer heavier styles:

- Pinot Noir
- Merlot
- Shiraz/Syrah
- Cabernet Sauvignon

Start with these 4 very common grapes. Those should keep you busy for the next few months.

That's true.. Btw, don't forget that what food u have, also affects the taste of wines..

Lol.. don't ask me why, but look at what I did

 

[Dexter71]

love muga too! 06 is tasty but still needs time IMO. last year i opened 2 of the '04 Prado Eneas and they were just barely starting to enter their optimal drinking window! but too bad i have no more prado eneas. The good producers really need age on their higher bottles.

Coincidentally I am cracking the Muga Prado Eneas 2004 for my wine gathering this Friday...I have a few Riojas and have the La Rioja Alta 904 2005, CVNE Vina Ardanza 2007 and Vina Tondonia 2004 to open too..haha

Rioja Alta 2007 and CVNE Imperial Gran Reserva 2010 I have on preorder.

Cheers

 

[andycandice]

Rejoining after a loooooong hiatus. Hello

After all this time, palate still gravitate twds Bordeaux and Rioja.....the acidity of the Italian nebbiolos and jamminess/ high alcohol of the New World wines still bother me despite best attempts to be open minded.

Keep on drinking!

 

[Dexter71]

Rejoining after a loooooong hiatus. Hello

After all this time, palate still gravitate twds Bordeaux and Rioja.....the acidity of the Italian nebbiolos and jamminess/ high alcohol of the New World wines still bother me despite best attempts to be open minded.

Keep on drinking!

Go for the tamer cousins and brothers

Example instead of Barolo go for Barbera

Brunello go for Rosso Di Montalcino or Vino Nobile Di Montapulicno

I love Amarone !

Unforunately Italians you cant drink young.

 

[ikileo]

Coincidentally I am cracking the Muga Prado Eneas 2004 for my wine gathering this Friday...I have a few Riojas and have the La Rioja Alta 904 2005, CVNE Vina Ardanza 2007 and Vina Tondonia 2004 to open too..haha

Rioja Alta 2007 and CVNE Imperial Gran Reserva 2010 I have on preorder.

Cheers

all of these guys u can let them sleep. i try to drink riojas with at least 10 years. for the better bottlings like 904 or gran reservas i try to get my hands on those at least 15 years or so.

the 04 prado enea should be in a good place. ur 05 LRA 904 has a nong nong time. my 01 LRA 904 is still sleeping.

Tondonia are also very age worthy, u should try to get their older whites (1990s) if you have the chance.

 

[andycandice]

Ya been thru the whole suite bro.....barbera, chianti....put off by the deceivingly light but tannic/ acidic taste profile. On the other hand, found Amarone and Valpolicella etc too "gao" and "jerlat" if you know what I mean.....A Bordeaux boy at heart I guess.....the earthiness after some bottle age...heavenly

 

[ikileo]

That's true.. Btw, don't forget that what food u have, also affects the taste of wines..

Lol.. don't ask me why, but look at what I did

a healthy wine lunch? which was wine that?

 

[ikileo]

Ya been thru the whole suite bro.....barbera, chianti....put off by the deceivingly light but tannic/ acidic taste profile. On the other hand, found Amarone and Valpolicella etc too "gao" and "jerlat" if you know what I mean.....A Bordeaux boy at heart I guess.....the earthiness after some bottle age...heavenly

that's ok. everyone has their palate preference and it does change from time to time. are there certain bdx producers and specific vintages that you have enjoyed in recent memory?

 

[andycandice]

that's ok. everyone has their palate preference and it does change from time to time. are there certain bdx producers and specific vintages that you have enjoyed in recent memory?

Cos D fan ....although it tends to be quite inconsistent in the past.....and basically anything St Julien is quite fail-safe. How about you Iki, any favs? Noticed u r a keen Rioja fan

 

[ikileo]

Cos D fan ....although it tends to be quite inconsistent in the past.....and basically anything St Julien is quite fail-safe. How about you Iki, any favs? Noticed u r a keen Rioja fan

i have quite a democratic palate. i drink from everywhere and everything but i do take note of what i drink and i can get quite geeky into the technical details of the wine and wine making.

For me there's so much wine out there in the world to try. there are many passionate and talented wine makers out there so i want to drink their wines and not just stick to one type. plus i'm a food kind of guy and i cook and host so I am always thinking about food and wine pairing. having wine options to pair with food; cos we also dun eat the same food all the time.

spanish reds was because my earliest memory of a red wine that really blew my mind was a spanish wine. thereafter I realized how much of a history and because their wines are not as internationally branded and demanded as say bordeaux, burg, champagnes etc... the prices are still reasonable yet the top producers are still world class.

my first love for white is German rieslings cos i lived in Germany for half a year; fell in love with it. then also realized that among wine professionals and enthusiasts german rieslings and white burgs are up there at the top tier whites. amazing ageworthy stuff that are also food friendly.


That being said my 9 year wine journey had let me drink a wide range. some of the more recent regions/wine types that i've drunk a lot in the past 6 months are Beaujolais Cru, Grower Champagnes, Cool Climate Aussie Wines (ie: Tasmania) and Natural Wines.

 

[[C]hEWy]

a healthy wine lunch? which was wine that?

It was a dinner thou.. Haha

Wine was Charlotte Street Shiraz

I had these party wines for my house-warming just 2 months ago.. affordable stuff

 

[sinkiedk]

any comments on this wine?

Sent from underneath my smelly blanket with duck prints using GAGT

 

[ikileo]

any comments on this wine?

Sent from underneath my smelly blanket with duck prints using GAGT

Tried it a few years back. Easy going wine from a good producer. More importantly how did u find it?

 

[ikileo]

It was a dinner thou.. Haha

Wine was Charlotte Street Shiraz

I had these party wines for my house-warming just 2 months ago.. affordable stuff

nice lineup must have been a big house-warming party. What are the last 3 wines on the extreme right? The rest i'm familiar with.

 

[[C]hEWy]

nice lineup must have been a big house-warming party. What are the last 3 wines on the extreme right? The rest i'm familiar with.

Thanks.. Haha but those wines were meant for like 6-7 of us? Haha..

Last 2 are monte antico toscana and the 3rd one from the right is the Réserve Spéciale Barons de Rothschild Bordeaux Rouge (I got this from DFS) - I don't really enjoy this..

This one also not bad, for everyday drinking..