Woman who lost baby: NUH apologises for 2-hour wait, says it is reviewing processes

[I_am_unbelievable]

No blame culture please.
Lets move on

 

[VEF888]

they called ambulance, ambulance only can send to the nearest equipped hospital.

they called gynae, gynae has COVID. and no, some don't have back-ups.(how many gynae clinics you know have a secondary doctor). And pls, it's not the hospital's job to allocate stand-ins.

a&e doesn't handle c-sect / major surgeries. their job is to stabilize the patient first. in this case, they would have sent her to the mat wards, who would then perform the c-sect if needed.


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if gynae has covid, the doc himself should have some arrangement with his fellow doc mah, are all his patient to be left in limbo if delivery is needed? just because he's sick? and not as if he can recovery in a day or two.

on one hand you saying not the hospital's job to allocate standby but on the other you expect NUH to have standby for her delivery? wouldn't she better off going to her gynae's hospital in the first place and skip the A&E?

 

[fandango]

Bottom line is this:

We don't have enough public Horsepeter.

 

[bwaysaikryptonite]

cannotch use no blame culture so still scrambling to find new phrase and excuse ? No amount excuses ish acceptable for such !

 

[dxdx999]

if gynae has covid,
the doc himself
should have some arrangement with his fellow doc mah, are all his patient to be left in limbo if delivery is needed? just because he's sick? and not as if he can recovery in a day or two.
on one hand you saying not the hospital's job to allocate standby but on the other you expect NUH to have standby for her delivery? wouldn't she better off going to her gynae's hospital in the first place and skip the A&E?

again... they called an ambulance, the ambulance sent them to the nearest equipped hospital (NUH). you can't choose the hospital.

NUH have a&e / mat wards. they are not the same gynae, but maybe doctors working in mat wards capable of performing surgery for the pregnant patient. I meant it's not Thomson medical's job to allocate a standby if your Thomson medical gynae is down. That should be the gynae clinic's responsibility. also gynaes are not on call 24/7.

of course, system was overstressed so there were delays. but the failure here looked like the 2h a&e wait and downgrading her to low priority.




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[neutralph]

Talk is cheap, an apology won't bring the baby back to life.

Yeah. Live for a live. Which doc on duty that day of the incident? Take him/her to the roof top for sacrificial procession. May the baby soul be appease.

 

[Bardiel]

OYK should just hari kiri

uner his watch tell me wht nv fug up.

 

[twinkle07]

after pm lee message, ppl forget this riao...

 

[VEF888]

again... they called an ambulance, the ambulance sent them to the nearest equipped hospital (NUH). you can't choose the hospital.

NUH have a&e / mat wards. they are not the same gynae, but maybe doctors working in mat wards capable of performing surgery for the pregnant patient. I meant it's not Thomson medical's job to allocate a standby if your Thomson medical gynae is down. That should be the gynae clinic's responsibility. also gynaes are not on call 24/7.

of course, system was overstressed so there were delays. but the failure here looked like the 2h a&e wait and downgrading her to low priority.




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first call should be to the gynae. he's the specialist and have been looking after her.

too early to conclude if it's 100% fault on NUH's part, esp if they followed all the globally accepted medical good practices from assessing the patient to giving the appropriate care accordingly.

 

[Needmysleep]

This is what happens when you employ Ceca, Filipino and China staff in SG hospital.
They bring their country's TOXIC culture and MEAN SPIRITED practices into SG hospital.
This is what they do back home - the poor people with no status are ill treated to this extent.

lol please. Toxic culture is the hallmark of a lot of the locals in our hospitals ( Its more a toxic nursing culture -all bow down to the higher staff kind ) . Mean spirited not so much . All those nationalities that you mention - on ground - they are not doing any ill treating as they have the most to lose if something goes wrong and the first to be blamed .

 

[haliotis81]

No blame culture please.
Lets move on

Avoid problem policy. This is elite's best practices.

 

[codemasterguy]

They handled 3 other cases that night ....... Why tell us that . It's only 3 , can't handle 4 a night?
Plus , if you want to take that as an excuse , don't tell us how many that night. Tell us how many were being attended to at the time of her arrival!

Hospital should explain more, are those 3 other case critical cases which require full attention?

 

[ricohflex]

lol please. Toxic culture is the hallmark of a lot of the locals in our hospitals ( Its more a toxic nursing culture -all bow down to the higher staff kind ) . Mean spirited not so much . All those nationalities that you mention - on ground - they are not doing any ill treating as they have the most to lose if something goes wrong and the first to be blamed .

The toxicity in those countries and cultures is that it is an established and institutionalized attitude that Poor and Low Status people in their countries can be treated badly and they do not count.
In india, it is the Brahmin vs Dalit gulf. And is a many thousand years old institution.
And if the poor and low ses people suffer bad outcomes due to this ill treatment, it is considered NORMAL (in those countries). To those foreign staff, back in their home countries, if such things happen there are NO consequences and NO need to explain. It is BAU business as usual. This explains the initial bo chup (cannot be bothered) response of NUH, until social media forced them to react and apologize.

 

[haliotis81]

The toxicity in those countries and cultures is that it is an established and institutionalized attitude that Poor and Low Status people in their countries can be treated badly and they do not count.
In india, it is the Brahmin vs Dalit gulf. And is a many thousand years old institution.
And if the poor and low ses people suffer bad outcomes due to this ill treatment, it is considered NORMAL (in those countries). To those foreign staff, back in their home countries, if such things happens there are NO consequences and NO need to explain. It is BAU business as usual.

Why u comparing with other countries. If everyone think like u, there will be always excuses by comparing worst cases. Nothing will be changed. This is worst.

 

[ricohflex]

Why u comparing with other countries. If everyone think like u, there will be always excuses by comparing worst cases. Nothing will be changed. This is worst.

I think you missed the point. They are HERE. They bring their attitudes into SG.

 

[haliotis81]

I think you missed the point. They are HERE. They bring their attitudes into SG.

This is why our golden age have gone long ago. Our country is going down the drain by the minutes.

 

[AMDKBuiBui]

Procedural review is a polite way to say no one is at fault. Just blame the system and move on

 

[tmster]

Yet another case of sinkie baby lives don't matter, protecting their backsides and increasing gdp more important.

 

[RedEyesFan]

"Sorry you have to die today. We'll promise to change things soon"
Easy PR job.

 

[Apparatus]

So NUH CEO must hold accountability for a life lost or not? If yes, how? No pay rise for10 yrs, resign, hara kiri.........or just apologize and review procedures.....?