Working Shoe for Young Exec - Part 2

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Hi, need urgent help for something wrong that happened to my shoes!!!

I have a pair of red rad rusells, previously got it to be shiny alr especially the capped toe area.

Then I wanted to improve the shine somemore, so I used Saphir neutral polish to polish the left shoe, but to my surprise instead of becoming shinier, it became matte and dull instead and the colour was running off a lot.

Thinking it was because I did not do it properly, I used Wren's leather cleaner to strip off the layers of wax, but then OMG the colours ran like crazy and my whole cloth was red and black. After that the black line across the capped toe region is almost gone and the whole front portion of the left shoe become dull and matte and looks like colour run off.

If you see this URL you will see what I mean by the left shoe issue.

http://s61.photobucket.com/user/raychua/profile/

Let it sit for a few days until whatever that you've put on it to dries completely.

Brush the shoe to remove any remaining stuff on it. Use some wax to polish over the area and see if the dullness will go away. Don't do spit polish yet. Just coat, rub it in and let it sit and dry, then brush off and repeat for a couple of layers. You'll probably see some dye on it at this point so don't panic. Use thin coats of wax.

If you see the shine returning, then use water sparingly. The color that has rubbed off is not going to come back and the cost to rectify the color is probably worth 2 pairs of your shoes. Either you live with it or dump it for a new pair.
 

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1) Neutral polish dissolves other polish.

2) You can always add back the colour yourself. Just need dark brown or black polish.
 

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1) Neutral polish dissolves other polish.

Don't think that's true. Shoe polish, if from the same brand will be made with the same contents, other than the color. Any wax will to a certain extent dissolve the current wax that is on the shoes. Its actually the solvents in the wax that dissolves the wax on your shoes. It keeps the wax in the tin from hardening too quickly.

Black wax will dissolve the previous coat of black wax that you've applied. You just can't see it.
 

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Hi, need urgent help for something wrong that happened to my shoes!!!

I have a pair of red rad rusells, previously got it to be shiny alr especially the capped toe area.

Then I wanted to improve the shine somemore, so I used Saphir neutral polish to polish the left shoe, but to my surprise instead of becoming shinier, it became matte and dull instead and the colour was running off a lot.

Thinking it was because I did not do it properly, I used Wren's leather cleaner to strip off the layers of wax, but then OMG the colours ran like crazy and my whole cloth was red and black. After that the black line across the capped toe region is almost gone and the whole front portion of the left shoe become dull and matte and looks like colour run off.

If you see this URL you will see what I mean by the left shoe issue.

http://s61.photobucket.com/user/raychua/profile/

The leather cleaner probably stripped off some of the finishing from your shoes.

Let it dry out overnight. Apply the saphir renovateur in small circular motions and leave it to dry for 10 mins, brush off. Apply the black Saphir Creme on those lines which have came off, brush off after 15 mins. Do this application of the Creme for 2-3 times. Finish off with the neutral wax polish for shine. Should be fine.

When it became dull or matte, it is probably because you are too generous with your water 😉
 

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Hello all. Have a question was wondering if you have any suggestions. I have a pair of meermins that I haven't worn because it came and I found the light brown too light for my liking and left it in a corner. Just remembered I had a pair today after seeing pictures of patina shoes.

So my question is: are there patina services that work on 3rd party shoes?

I'm not looking for anything too fanciful. Just to darken the shoe maybe to a red/darker brown and just to have some streaks/lines etc. I think septieme obviously won't work on other brands and Mason & Smith don't offer the service anymore. Who else does it? I'm expecting to pay in ballpark of $200-250?

Thanks you all!

Why don't you experiment it yourself and diy over the weekend? Fulfilling at the same time maybe. Apply light brown Creme all over your shoe as a base, and apply dark brown Creme on the tip of the captoes.

Save that $200 and funnel for another new pair of shoes😂
 

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Why don't you experiment it yourself and diy over the weekend? Fulfilling at the same time maybe. Apply light brown Creme all over your shoe as a base, and apply dark brown Creme on the tip of the captoes.

Save that $200 and funnel for another new pair of shoes😂

Doesn't work eh. Somehow when you wear it, bits of the colour will run and will look patchy. Even if you put many thin layers and let it dry. Tried before on lighter brown and tried to darken. Mirror shine also got bits of colour drop off. Any idea how to make it more permanent...?
 

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Doesn't work eh. Somehow when you wear it, bits of the colour will run and will look patchy. Even if you put many thin layers and let it dry. Tried before on lighter brown and tried to darken. Mirror shine also got bits of colour drop off. Any idea how to make it more permanent...?

Dye them..
 

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Hi, need urgent help for something wrong that happened to my shoes!!!

I have a pair of red rad rusells, previously got it to be shiny alr especially the capped toe area.

Then I wanted to improve the shine somemore, so I used Saphir neutral polish to polish the left shoe, but to my surprise instead of becoming shinier, it became matte and dull instead and the colour was running off a lot.

Thinking it was because I did not do it properly, I used Wren's leather cleaner to strip off the layers of wax, but then OMG the colours ran like crazy and my whole cloth was red and black. After that the black line across the capped toe region is almost gone and the whole front portion of the left shoe become dull and matte and looks like colour run off.

If you see this URL you will see what I mean by the left shoe issue.

http://s61.photobucket.com/user/raychua/profile/

Thank you all for the suggestions, did what you guys suggested and while the black dye across the toe cap has been permanently removed, I have managed to restore the red colour and the mirror shine on the toe cap
 

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Doesn't work eh. Somehow when you wear it, bits of the colour will run and will look patchy. Even if you put many thin layers and let it dry. Tried before on lighter brown and tried to darken. Mirror shine also got bits of colour drop off. Any idea how to make it more permanent...?

I've never heard of wax color running before. Are you referring to the wax cracking and flaking off? If so, you've used wayyyyyyyy too much wax and on the wrong areas.

There's also a question of how much darker you're talking about. How light is the light brown and how dark is the dark brown? Remember that your shoe will naturally darken with age and as you apply wax or reno to it, it's just a matter of how much.

You can use creme to darken the shoe but unless you know how patina works, you may have to trial and error and the results may not be pretty. If not, go buy the dye from hardware store and just dye it 1 single shade. Please don't expect septieme quality patina.

Otherwise, go look for AQ. He might be able to help you, for a fee of course.
 

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Well. When I put creme the areas that crease will expose the lighter colours, as expected. Lol. Unless I only darken the toe cap. Who's AQ btw? They provide patina service?

I've never heard of wax color running before. Are you referring to the wax cracking and flaking off? If so, you've used wayyyyyyyy too much wax and on the wrong areas.

There's also a question of how much darker you're talking about. How light is the light brown and how dark is the dark brown? Remember that your shoe will naturally darken with age and as you apply wax or reno to it, it's just a matter of how much.

You can use creme to darken the shoe but unless you know how patina works, you may have to trial and error and the results may not be pretty. If not, go buy the dye from hardware store and just dye it 1 single shade. Please don't expect septieme quality patina.

Otherwise, go look for AQ. He might be able to help you, for a fee of course.
 

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Hi guys, I have a loake 1880 Rothschild UK7.5 and a LLYR Watson size 43. Where can I get shoetrees that fit them?
 

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Well. When I put creme the areas that crease will expose the lighter colours, as expected. Lol. Unless I only darken the toe cap. Who's AQ btw? They provide patina service?

That's odd. Maybe a few pics to show your shoe would help illustrate that. I've not noticed such issues with shoes that I've handled.

And are you sure about getting a patina if you can't stand the difference in tones of the crease and non creasing areas?
 

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Goto World of sports, Royal Sporting House, Timberland, etc.. and measure your feet with a brannock device so that you know your feet size and width. Then for the model u intend to buy, pay attention to the advise in the forum whether a need to upsize or downsize.

Loake aldwych is in capital last medium width and is quite true to size. Thus u can order based on your measurement from the brannock device (convert from US to UK). Pay a bit attention to the width as it is confusing

Narrow : C(US), E(UK)
Medium : D(US), F(UK)
Wide : E(US), G(UK)

Eg I measured 10E(US) on the brannock device. Equivalent should be 9G(UK). However as most UK shoes are in F width, I upsize by half to 9.5F.

brannock_device.gif

Umm, I measured 10B/C on the brannock.
But my size is UK7.5 on most shoes.

Why the big discrepancy ah? Weird leh
 

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Not sure how you guys managed without topy.. the wet weather and the Malls flooring is a problem for me. Slipped a couple of times..
 
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