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I'm interested in sharing the 32oz bottle.
Please let me know if you are ordering :)

Hope you guys had a great night at the outing in spite of the rain :s12:

Do share a review

Venetian is made by Zoe, shinola creams also made by same company costing more
http://www.shinola.com/shop/leather/neutral-shoe-cream.html#shinola=iLrR3EmsEjZ

This guys complain about crack maybe didn't shake??
http://www.styleforum.net/t/228153/the-official-shoe-care-thread-tutorials-photos-etc/1290
 
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Wah, si boh? That place so hot huh. Almost midnight soon still donwan go home?

Nah we were the only two there on the 2nd level. We were near by as we were buying a new luggage bag and thought we'll just pop by.
 

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hooted these pair of oak streets few weeks back...

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don't need so fast apply conditioners/oil right? :o

still new to leather stuff and maintenance :s13:
 

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My objective 2 cents and review on LLYR (refrained from commenting until I inspected them in real life. Pics, in my XP, always show glamorised versions of the real thing) -- having seen the second series just now, the construction is most definitely inferior to the first series. Take a look at the difference between the sole on the first and second series. In fact, the suede used in the first collection feels better than the leather used in this second collection.

I shall chalk the price difference down to their realisation that their pricing structure for the first series was wrong and poor for a fledgling brand trying to enter the shoe market that has established players. Plus the (relatively) poorer quality of materials/construction used in the second.

A few shoes connoisseurs have pointed out, quite rightly, to me, that LLYR shoes have a tactile element that is not quite right regardless of the materials they say they use. It lacks high end finesse. It's not bad for shoes produced in Vietnam, but it's not going to rival your Italian, Spanish, Japanese, and English shoemakers. Don't get me wrong -- they're not bad shoes. Definitely better than Aldo and Pedro.

That said, 295 is not a bad price. However, based on my assessment, I think Meermin is still a better buy. It's approximately the same price if not slightly cheaper, and most definitely has a more luxurious feel to it. I seriously wonder how Meermin delivers so much value for so little.

MEERMIN - Men
 
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hooted these pair of oak streets few weeks back...

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don't need so fast apply conditioners/oil right? :o

still new to leather stuff and maintenance :s13:

Before your first wear. Prevention is better than Cure.
 

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The night was spent on eating and drinking and discussing shoes and clothing. Gambier (sic) shared with us his experiences thrifting on ebay, especially sports jackets.

It was a nice place to chill out till the EPL fans came in and started shouting and disrupting our conversation. We left promptly after that.



Before we left I demonstrated my Emergency Shine Procedure. I do this all the time in office to touch up my shoes. All it takes is less than 5 minutes to do, so there is no reason not to shine your shoes.

I also showed the way I do finishing touches, ie use of breath and a nylon stocking to buff. The gentlemen find that made a significant difference to the 5min shined toecap. But your female colleagues might give you strange stares when you are seen holding nylon stockings.

Thank you everyone for attending and sharing your valuable knowledge. I have learnt much from you guys.
 

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hooted these pair of oak streets few weeks back...

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don't need so fast apply conditioners/oil right? :o

still new to leather stuff and maintenance :s13:

This is the captoe trench boot? Its very nice! Mind sharing where did you get it from and price? I am keen to get the black pair. :)

Btw, would you happen to have a pair of Red Wing boots for comparison? Does this pair of oak streets look slimmer than the RW round toes?


TIA
 

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I am the one who bought the llyr. I remember I went down to tangs before their of 2nd collection, not sure if they stock there though...

If you want to get the black double monk, arthur. It is only available in their 2nd collection if I am not wrong. And for that you need to go swagger at 15 ann Siang road or front rows at raffles hotel(if I rem correctly)

Hi there,

I went to Frontrows yesterday, Ann Siang road just now and yet to visit(??) Dunlop street. I kind of disappointed at Frontrows as the selection is pale in comparison to Tangs. Anyway, they do not have black double monks at Frontrows. It was closed at Ann Siang, what a wasted trip as I can't find any contact no via the website.
 

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Hi there,

I went to Frontrows yesterday, Ann Siang road just now and yet to visit(??) Dunlop street. I kind of disappointed at Frontrows as the selection is pale in comparison to Tangs. Anyway, they do not have black double monks at Frontrows. It was closed at Ann Siang, what a wasted trip as I can't find any contact no via the website.


Hello, not sure if you have received my previous PM. But as of now, Tangs is our largest stockist and we just called Front Row to check, they do have a black arthur in 44!
 

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went down to Kips N Kwik after realizing my tods penny sole has split off from the upper. Uncle offered me two choices, to glue or to stitch back with existing sole. I took the stitching offer. Question is what kind of stitching is that? Is it just the normal stitching?

P.S. For those who is interested, Kips N Kwik have couple of tarrago products display in their glass cabinet. Saw the suede rejuvenator, universal protector (both $16.90 each) and cream conditioner...
 

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Hello, not sure if you have received my previous PM. But as of now, Tangs is our largest stockist and we just called Front Row to check, they do have a black arthur in 44!

Hi there,

Thanks for the update and have called them and confirmed the size, model and its price. Too bad no discount is given unlike Tangs, otherwise, I will rush down to grab this babe. Any assistance you may wish to render to fulfill my Christmas wish?Haa.

By the way, any idea why the quantity given to Tangs is so few?

Nonetheless, thank you very much.

PS: I have replied your PM.
 

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Go to the link to read the entire list. There's a longer list of recommended shoe brands. I've pulled out the top 5. Meermin comes in tops (like I've been saying) in terms of value. It has a very good price-quality mix. The link -- Parisian Gentleman – PG’s recommendations : The 2013 Shoes Edition

IMPORTANT NOTE: In assessing the relative quality of these shoes, PG, a shoe connoisseur, uses extremely high criteria in assessing standards of quality. So, whilst he might call some brands out for 'mid-tier' leather etc, it's relative to extremely high quality shoes. I can safely say that MOST people who have little/no exposure to august shoemakers that PG uses as a benchmark will see the 'mid-tier' as 'top-tier'.

PG’s RECOMMENDATIONS : THE 2013 SHOES EDITION

Our 2013 selection for ready-to-wear shoes covers 22 houses, meticulously handpicked, whose price range varies from 130 to 1500 euros.

Be advised that although the inclusion of shoetrees with the purchase of a pair of shoes goes without saying for us—for many entry-level brands, shoetrees are optional, so you may have to add 30 to 60 euros to the final price (which corresponds to the average price for a decent pair of trees).

As for the indicated prices, also be aware that we are giving averages — numerous houses listed here offer different collections whose prices can vary wildly, depending on the leather, design, and/or construction.

Without further ado, here is our selection given in ascending order :

MEERMIN

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The new sensation from Majorca

Average Price: 150 Euros

meermin.es

This young house founded in 2001 was taken over about two years ago by the Albaladejo family, already well-known for being behind Carmina and for their great Shell Cordovan leathers. Meermin is probably one of the best quality/price ratio offerings to emerge from the past few years. This small house distributes its collections via two physical stores (one in Madrid, the other in Tokyo), plus an on-line store.

With a casual, Goodyear welted collection (rubber soles) priced at 130 euros, and a classic collection of Goodyear welted shoes (leather soles), priced at 160 euros, the Meermin price tag is nothing short of impressive.

Made in Shangai and finished in Majorque, this house also offers a hand-welted collection, at 260 euros (the most interesting offer as far as we are concerned), a norwegian-welted range at 360 euros, and a Shell Cordovan offer, priced at 320 euros.

Clearly inspired by British designs, these models are discreet with relatively modern lasts. The solidity of the construction is honorable, and the designs are overall pleasant. Of course, at this price range, the leather quality is mid-grade at best, the soles could be sturdier, and the finishing touches are only average, with hit or miss quality control.

Despite this, the quality/price ratio remains excellent, and the customer service, though a bit « rustic », is full of goodwill and consistently reactive.

One regret though, would be the abusive use of the affiliation with Carmina on the communications side (i.e., tradition-washing). Carmina and Meermin are two different companies, with two different production lines, clearly providing different levels of quality.

+ + : The quality/price ratio, the sober lasts

- – : The leathers, the finishing work, only two physical stores (Madrid & Tokyo).

LODING

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Still an excellent value for money

Single price for all shoes : 160 euros

loding.fr

No need to introduce Loding again, founded fifteen yeas ago, with the concept of providing accessible luxury at a single price.

Now counting at 66 stores (franchised network) in France and in the world (Hong Kong, Barcelona, Lausanne, Warsaw), Loding has secured a good reputation amongst shoe enthusiasts (newcomers and veterans alike) who have a limited budget but still want to enjoy (relatively) well designed shoes of (rather) good overall quality.

Loding still offers its collection at 160 euros for all models, an excellent choice to take one’s first steps into the highly addictive world of quality men’s shoes. This brand provides a great and affordable way to “taste” the formality of an oxford or the nonchalance of a derby, or even the casual chic spirit of a loafer without having to spend a fortune.

Of course at this price the leather quality is not fantastic, even if Loding shoes are famous for their decent sturdiness, if regularly well-maintained.

The only downside would be the lasts, which tend to get longer and thiner as collections come and go, to the point of verging on bad taste, but this concerns only a few select models, fortunately.

This concern aside, the offer is as relevant as ever and Loding is a house that can be credited for its real consistency in terms of quality and selection.

+ + : The quality-price ratio, the wide selection, a large number of physical stores

- – : The “average” leather quality, some of the lasts are not as elegant as in the past, sporadic customer service depending on the store (the downside of a franchised network)

MARKOWSKI

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An impressive choice at an impressive price

Average Price: 195 Euros

markowski.fr

Markowski literally infiltrated the market in 2007 under the impulse of Marcos Fernandez Cabezas, the man behind the launch of Bowen, the revival of Doc Martens in France, the update of the Paraboot style and subsequently, the creation of Emling.

The tireless Marco Fernandez (who, by the way, created Septième Largeur two years later, and sold Markowski in 2012) created the house with a simple and seductive idea : offer quality shoes at « wholesale prices » (about twice as cheap as retail prices) by cutting the middleman and reducing as much structural costs as possible, and selling online only (but still including a store / office/ warehouse located in a popular Parisian neighbourhood).

This philosophy resulted in an offer, which at the time of its inception, was nothing short of remarkable (for the price range). This quite quickly seduced a large customer-base looking for classic shoes with contemporary lasts (i.e the « 169 » model in its one-cut / saddle form – a very successful model, and rightfully so), with simple and elegant designs, for a quasi-miraculous price tag.

Six years later, despite barely acceptable leather quality and uneven quality assurance, Markowski remains a very solid choice in terms of quality/price ratio… if prices would stop increasing, that is. A 60 euros increase in a time frame of six years on a pair of shoes initially sold for 135 euros is a 45 percent inflation (even if the cost of leather has been skyrocketing in the past few years.)

In 2012, Marcos Fernandez sold Markowski to dedicate himself to Septième Largeur, who was until then a Markowski superior sub-brand offering, providing more sophisticated models with contemporary patinas.

+ + : Still an excellent quality/price ratio

- – : Average at best leathers, fluctuating quality assurance, back order issues.

LOAKE

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For your first steps in English shoes

Average price : 200 euros

loake.co.uk

Loake is a British shoemaker installed since the late 1800s, in Kettering (close to Northampton), that produces classic shoes of honorable quality sold at a very honest price.

Nothing spectacular here, in that no efforts are poured into creating original or highly seductive shoes. The designs are as British as it gets, the leather quality is decent, and the Goodyear welts are well-made, especially on the upper « Loake 1880 premium » range, the only collection still made in England, which sells at around 190£ (235 euros)

The other models fluctuate between 110 and 150£, with beautiful classic collections (including the : « 201 » semi-brogue at the very convincing price of 110£).

Loake is a good alternative for the most conservative, and for those who only swear by English shoes (which is not necessarily a wrong choice, especially in terms of sturdiness).

+ + : Nothing spectacular, but a solid choice, very decently crafted.

- – : Average leather, very « heavy » looking lasts, no physical stores outside of England.

SEPTIÈME LARGEUR

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A good quality/price ratio, with added style.

Average price : 250 euros

septiemelargeur.fr

The second part of Marcos Fernandez’s work, in favor of affordable, yet qualitative men’s shoes. The Septième Largeur collection recently has became a house proper, with an online store and two physical shops in Paris. The shoes are of classical style, honorably built with nice lasts and rather seducing designs, and for a few models, you can request a patina for 75 euros more (added to the original price).

A very relevant offer that can give you that bit of soul and style that few houses are able to offer for under 250 euros.

+ + : The quality/ price / style ratio.

- – : A sometimes random leather quality.
 
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P.S. For those who is interested, Kips N Kwik have couple of tarrago products display in their glass cabinet. Saw the suede rejuvenator, universal protector (both $16.90 each) and cream conditioner...

Thanx
Will be ordering from direct from us office
Retail prices
Shoe cream usd$3.50
Natural Leather cream usd$3.50
Nano tech protector spray 250ml usd$17 ( eBay much cheaper)
Universal cleaner usd$7
 

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Before your first wear. Prevention is better than Cure.

but which one is better, venetian shoe cream or obenauf lp?

like a lot of argument and comments about both products on chromexcel all over the internet... :o
 

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This is the captoe trench boot? Its very nice! Mind sharing where did you get it from and price? I am keen to get the black pair. :)

Btw, would you happen to have a pair of Red Wing boots for comparison? Does this pair of oak streets look slimmer than the RW round toes?


TIA

no have red wings, this is my first pair of boots :o

got it from tuckshop & sundry. they have red wings for sale as well so maybe you can compare both in their shop
 

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Do share a review

Venetian is made by Zoe, shinola creams also made by same company costing more
NEUTRAL SHOE CREAM - Leather | Shinola®

This guys complain about crack maybe didn't shake??
**The Official Shoe Care Thread: Tutorials, Photos, etc.** - Page 87

Sure, I will if I do end up getting it since no one seems to be interested in sharing or doing an MO for it without the free Amazon shipping (since it's not sold by Amazon)...

Was an idiot to buy the neatsfoot oil by mistake for VNC while I was in states.

Anyway, here's some review I read that got me interested in the VNC.

Venetian Shoe Cream and Saphir Renovateur - Imgur

Cheers
 

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Sure, I will if I do end up getting it since no one seems to be interested in sharing or doing an MO for it without the free Amazon shipping (since it's not sold by Amazon)...

Was an idiot to buy the neatsfoot oil by mistake for VNC while I was in states.

Anyway, here's some review I read that got me interested in the VNC.

Venetian Shoe Cream and Saphir Renovateur - Imgur

Cheers

how does vnc and obenauf affect chromexcel? still thinking on what to get.

from what I read I only know vnc provides more shine...got any more differences?
 

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but which one is better, venetian shoe cream or obenauf lp?

like a lot of argument and comments about both products on chromexcel all over the internet... :o

Never use either before.

Ventian seems to be good with Cordovan leather, thus my interest in this product.

I am using Saphir products for most of my maintainance purposes.

I use a little bit of shoe cream or reno rather than specially buy one type of care product for each type of leather.

Horween seems to prefer Venetian.

http://horween.com/101/chromexcel-2/
 
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