Huawei P9 - Change the way you see the world. #OO

[Rickosw]

Yes it is.





The RAW format support is included, according to GSMarena. http://www.gsmarena.com/huawei_p9_and_p9_plus_hands_on-review-1421p2.php
"The Huawei camera app offers manual mode, which offers RAW shooting, manual focus, shutter speed and ISO and a few other options."

Seems that the monochrome camera ITSELF also offer RAW.
http://www.engadget.com/2016/04/06/huawei-p9/
"you can take raw black-and-white images, which should look a lot more detailed and natural compared with a filtered photo. "

BBC also confirm RAW.
http://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35979532
"the files can be exported in the RAW file format for editing on a PC."

I speculate (and it is written somewhere on the net) that the RAW format also include distance information for post-shot image refocusing.





It is indeed a rough estimate, estimating on the very high. I don't have complete pricing information yet.

DAC - while we all don't have confirmed information yet, the Tensilica Hi-Fi 4 has been staple implementation on the Mate 8, and the HI6402 on the previous P8. However looking at the good audiophile acceptance of the audio on both the P8 and Mate 8, both should be fine.

ok, cool, that solve the RAW format issue,
now shall wait for the official word on DAC & AMP - if confirmation have

then we shall ROCK & ROLL !

 

[MichaelTan]

A word about OIS. Remember you are dealing with a dual lens system now.

This 2 combined Huawei P9 Leica camera take in 75% more light than S7. That's almost 1 f stop, so where light is concerned the P9 dual leicas has a aperture equivalent of f/1.2 combined compared to the f/1.7 on the s7.

The monochrome also boosts ISO value a lot (not yet disclosed how much on the same f/stop). Red estimates that monochrome can boost 1 to 1.5X ISO http://www.red.com/learn/red-101/color-monochrome-camera-sensors

With all this extra light, they are quite justified in saying that OIS is not required compared to lesser cameras.

 

[MichaelTan]

Huawei P9: The first 7 things you need to know - some special things which you might have missed:

http://www.androidcentral.com/huawei-p9-first-7-things-you-need-know#slide2

 

[MichaelTan]

Android Authority, the authoritative Android site, has their authoritative preliminary look at the P9

http://www.androidauthority.com/huawei-p9-hands-on-684504/

 

[knightshaz]

The First Photos Taken with the Leica Co-Engineered Huawei P9

 

[MichaelTan]

The P9's dual rear cameras are kind of this phone's 'thing'. They're not just there to look impressive though, the two pixel sensors (one RGB, one monochrome) pull in enough light to allow the phone to take great pictures in poor light conditions.

And it works. Photos taken in low light show nice detail and much less grain than is usual for smartphone cameras. Things are further improved by the ability to chose focus and metering points independently, meaning photos with high-contrast (like neon lights at night) don't appear washed-out or too dark.

http://www.wired.co.uk/news/archive/2016-04/07/huawei-p9-hands-on-review-price-specs-features

 

[Kitaro9202]

 

[antdroid]

Love this guy! His way of presenting the phone is really cool

 

[ragnarok95]

A word about OIS. Remember you are dealing with a dual lens system now.

This 2 combined Huawei P9 Leica camera take in 75% more light than S7. That's almost 1 f stop, so where light is concerned the P9 dual leicas has a aperture equivalent of f/1.2 combined compared to the f/1.7 on the s7.

The monochrome also boosts ISO value a lot (not yet disclosed how much on the same f/stop). Red estimates that monochrome can boost 1 to 1.5X ISO http://www.red.com/learn/red-101/color-monochrome-camera-sensors

With all this extra light, they are quite justified in saying that OIS is not required compared to lesser cameras.

Fast yes, but bokeh effect le???

 

[MichaelTan]

Fast yes, but bokeh effect le???

Bro you know the cg bokeh right? If you choose you can have cg bokeh up to f/0.95 equivalent.

 

[MichaelTan]

Updated comparison chart between P9 and P9 Plus, taking into consideration new information about front camera from GSMarena.

 

[MichaelTan]

this is the steam review from GSMarena. http://m.gsmarena.com/huawei_p9_and_p9_plus_hands_on-review-1421.php

The pictures. .... it has x factor, it is more emo. If pro photog I understand, but this is just tech journalist with no photo talent leh, yet he can make it emotional. Not like those ultra saturated cellphone pics. I'm so used to those pics that when I first saw GSMarena pic I thought why no punch one... but after I saw those pics longer I can see the emotional content of those Leica P9 pics and I was thinking I'm crazy.

 

[warr]

I like it that Huawei is not following the QHD screen or 4K resolution waste on a phone.
FHD is even perfectly fine on my 50inch TV, so why would it matter on a phone?
The Korean brands don't focus on improving what should improve, but keeps on marketing numbers to fool people who buy into them.

P9Plus will be my target, if price is not insanely high; otherwise, i guess it'll be either mate 8 or P9.

 

[fergsu]

Hope to see and molest the demo soon. Want to compare the 9 and 9+ screen. And how it feels in the hand.

 

[MichaelTan]

Yes, definitely right. I always feel so waste when the puny GPU is pumping QHD pixel when full HD is more than enough. Even my super power nvidia desktop card can't pump QHD properly always take drastic frame hit. Puny phone GPU .... please lah keep at FHD.

 

[MichaelTan]

Just for a joke, here's how hard people try to make a true monochrome camera. With the P9 we got it. http://petapixel.com/2013/08/04/scr...ayer-off-a-dslr-sensor-for-sharper-bw-photos/

 

[caterham7]

Detail and noise were a lot closer to the Galaxy S7, but I have to say the Samsung still pipped it. Looking into the Galaxy S7’s specs, it’s no surprise. A much faster lens and greater reliance on OIS saw the S7 peg its sensitivity at ISO250, where the Huawei P9 used ISO1000 for the same scene. Higher ISO equals more noise.

Huawei claims the phone takes in “90 per cent” more light than an S7, but the real-life results aren’t quite as mind-bending.

I’m looking forwards to testing out the Huawei P9 properly, though. It deserves better than being locked in a hotel room.

http://www.stuff.tv/sg/huawei/p9/review

 

[Boner]

coming in may?

 

[MichaelTan]

more samples. See this one. Where's the noise? I can't see noise!

full blog: http://www.coolsmartphone.com/2016/04/08/huawei-p9-video-review/

 

[MichaelTan]

http://www.stuff.tv/sg/huawei/p9/review

what he commented, where's the bloody photo? NPNT!

When you are discussing ISO in a dual lens camera you have to think a little deeper. A monochrome sensor can boost ISO to great heights, and a dual lens mono+RGB sensor even higher. That's probably why you see it at 1000 compared to the S7's 250: 4 times the sensitivity, 4 times faster shutter speed, and the difference in noise is so marginal that the Samsung S7 just `pipped' it.

Higher iso means more noise for EQUAL setups. The point of the dual Leica cameras is to be able to boost sensitivity while keeping noise under control.

Also a comment on the F-value. Because there are 2 lenses, there's more light so the virtual aperture is wider. Since you mentioned that it was claimed the Huawei P9 captured 90% more light than the S7, the P9's aperture should be 3/4 stop better than 2.2 hence a virtual f/value of 1.7 (same as the S7).