Huawei P9 - Change the way you see the world. #OO

DXMachina

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more samples. See this one. Where's the noise? I can't see noise!

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full blog: http://www.coolsmartphone.com/2016/04/08/huawei-p9-video-review/

More like, I can't see shiat. :s13:
 

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Sometimes i wonder, those who want stock Android, why they bother looking at other phones. Just get the Nexus without complaining anything else. Which other brand doesn't put their own skin or software on it!

The reason chinese companies put in iOS like skins is in its own market. In China, Aplle phones are harder to get, or used to be hard, but consumers want the iOs crap after seeing them or influenced by marketing, so these companies create iOS-like skins on Android phones.

But when Huawei or Xiaomi goes international, they didn't really know that overseas buyers tastes are different. Buyers who wanted Android not Apple want stock Android UI, not their own UI primarily for Chinese taste. Hence, u have so much criticism from western English reviewers. If u watch other reviews outside china but not us uk or non-eng reviews, these UI are not criticized as much. I don't see lots of similar criticism on LG, another selling heavily bloated softwares. Samsung sells well right? Also with skins and bloatwares.

In another note, stock android doesn't mean it's wanted or best for everyone either. These layers do create some niCe things not existing in android. Many use Nova, but it's not pure android either. Many these reviewers are hypocrites.
 

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Objectively how would this Leica setup compare with LG G5 both having dual camera setup while both are implemented differently. It would be interesting to see how they compare with each other in day-to-day usage
 

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Objectively how would this Leica setup compare with LG G5 both having dual camera setup while both are implemented differently. It would be interesting to see how they compare with each other in day-to-day usage

Wait for the big comparo, bro. I suspect it is going to be a quantum leap in performance. Because the g5 uses dual lens in completely different manner, but p9 uses it to improve quality.
 

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Nova is just a launcher and very good at that becos of the features it support,you can customized it to suit you,I've used it extensively on a few of my phones becos Google launcher is just too simple and lack certain things that I need like gesture launching of apps. Once you are used to it, anything else becomes inferior
 

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Wait for the big comparo, bro. I suspect it is going to be a quantum leap in performance. Because the g5 uses dual lens in completely different manner, but p9 uses it to improve quality.

LG5 - 13MP normal view angle + 8 MP wide angle lens. Can't use both to combine effect I think. Won't be a meaning comparison.

It would a 12MP+12MP combo vs a single lens 13 MP more likely. Correct me if I am wrong.
 

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Eh legendary is a bit of a stretch when it hasn't even built a dynasty. Let's wait for the phone to be available to the masses first before elevating it to any divine status.
 

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LG5 - 13MP normal view angle + 8 MP wide angle lens. Can't use both to combine effect I think. Won't be a meaning comparison.

It would a 12MP+12MP combo vs a single lens 13 MP more likely. Correct me if I am wrong.
fergsu, I think you're right. Because the monochrome does not have to debayer the image, it is going to be slightly higher resolution 13MP seems to be right. But because the RGB sensor color information has to be mapped on this, more probably it's going to be same 12MP for color picture but 13MP for monochrome. I don't know, have to see.

There is a good discussion in the comments section for the otherwise shitty article written here: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/137230-huawei-p9-camera-explored-a-lot-to-leica

Let me repeat some of my comments here:

When you wrote "You're paying for that monochrome sensor in there, the one that you'll probably never use", Mike Lowe, you are wrong. Kindly revise your article. Not only that sentence, but write the whole thing again in the light of new knowledge.

The monochrome sensor has 2 main functions:

1) To take monochrome pictures, and
2) To increase the signal to noise ratio of the RGB color image of the 2nd camera by combining the monochrome picture (superior S:N) as the luminosity channel with the RGB image (color but inferior S:N). It creates what astrophotographers call an LRGB picture.

Also you are confusing f-number. f-number is f/D where f is the focal length and D is the diameter of the aperture. So there are 2 aspects: aperture size concerning depth of field, and amount of light gathered.

Having 2 lenses changes things a little bit so from the perspective of light gathered, the f-number is correctly virtualized. Since it was stated that the Huawei P9's dual Leica lens system takes in 75% more light than the S7's f/1.7 lens, that means 3/4 stop better than f/1.7 hence the virtual f-number of the dual lens system should be about f/1.2. However, this is the part of the f-number which determines `amount of light' and not bokeh.

The f/0.95 number you quoted was NOT relating to the amount of light, but it was the part of the f-number which determines bokeh. In this case it is virtual bokeh - means that the f-number adjustments in the bokeh mode virtualizes only the depth of field, but the light aspect ability of the f-number is determined separately as stated in the preceding paragraph.

As long as you understand what the dual lens system actually does - basically to combine 2 images to improve signal to noise - and separate that ability from the post-shot filtering and trick modes, you will not make such a critical error again.
 

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2 things now.

when is it coming out in singapore?

what is the price?


okay make it 3: which variants are coming to sg?

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Time of availability is important before people loses interest and before its announcement effects fade. Hope it's available by May.
 
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