My First Rig

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Trying to build my first rig. Came up with the following.
Mainly to play games at 1440p & high setting, surf net, simple office work.
Dont intend to OC or SLi.
No need keyboard, mouse, monitor.
Monitor likely to change to XB271HU ( Want Gsync, 144hz,1440p)
No color scheme intended though will consider LEDs or RGB (subject to parts acquired and additional cost)
Size doesnt matter but prefer with ample space for installation and cable management

1. Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-H170M D3H
2. Processor - i5 6500
3. RAM - kingston 2133mhz CL15 (KVR2IN15D8/8) - 2 x 8gb
4. Graphics Card - Zotac GTX 1070 8GB Twin Fan (5 years warranty)
5. Power Supply Unit - Seasonic Platinium 660W
6. ID Cooling Hunter Duet
7. SSD ZOTAC 480GB 2.5" (Phison S10 + Toshiba MLC)
8. HDD - Western Digital 2TB Blue 64MB 3.5" Sata3 HDD
9. Casing - Corsair Carbide Series Air 740 High Airflow ATX Cube Case or
- Phanteks Enthoo Evolve ATX Tempered Glass (or the non TG)

All comments and advice are welcome.
 

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Fo you see yourself needing all the features in h170 board?

Next you can go for superflower leadex psu offering for 500w range. You dont really need to buy till a platinum series from Seasonic.

The rest of the components are fine.
 

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Fo you see yourself needing all the features in h170 board?

Next you can go for superflower leadex psu offering for 500w range. You dont really need to buy till a platinum series from Seasonic.

The rest of the components are fine.

Thanks for the input. I dont really know what are the features of a H170 mobo.
I prefer one with more USB ports. Can share more about H170 mobo?

As for PSU, platinum seems to be more energy saving compare to gold.
PC will be on for min 18hrs a day or sometimes for days in a row.
Does it make a difference on electricity in the long run?
 

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Thanks for the input. I dont really know what are the features of a H170 mobo.
I prefer one with more USB ports. Can share more about H170 mobo?

As for PSU, platinum seems to be more energy saving compare to gold.
PC will be on for min 18hrs a day or sometimes for days in a row.
Does it make a difference on electricity in the long run?
80 Plus Platinum only 2% more efficient nia. And that definitely won't allow you recoup the $30-100 topup premium you have to pay over Gold certified units at all.

P.S: I got my Platinum set purely because it is darn affordable and i've got a colour theme to adhere to....
 
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80 Plus Platinum only 2% more efficient nia. And that definitely won't allow you recoup the $30-100 topup premium you have to pay over Gold certified units at all.

P.S: I got my Platinum set purely because it is darn affordable....
Assuming 370W is max load, i'll take r.m.s load at 283W.

2% energy savings out of 283W is a mere 5.66W.

Assuming 18 hours usage daily, at current tariff of 19.13 cents/kWh (according to PUB figures), you only save 59 cents per month.

Comparing with the cheapest 80 Plus Gold 650W PSU, i.e. FSP Aurum S 650W @ $119 (Lazada SG),

You need to use this Seasonic P-660 PSU for 186.44 MONTHS OR 15.5 YEARS to earn back the savings from the $110 premium you are paying over FSP Aurum S 650W. :s22::crazy:

Even comparison with closest Seasonic X-660 (costing $39 less) still requires you to commit 66.1 months or 5.5 years to recoup back.
 
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Assuming 370W is max load, i'll take r.m.s load at 283W.

2% energy savings out of 283W is a mere 5.66W.

Assuming 18 hours usage daily, at current tariff of 19.13 cents/kWh (according to PUB figures), you only save 59 cents per month.

Comparing with the cheapest 80 Plus Gold 650W PSU, i.e. FSP Aurum S 650W @ $119 (Lazada SG),

You need to use this Seasonic P-660 PSU for 186.44 MONTHS OR 15.5 YEARS to earn back the savings from the $110 premium you are paying over FSP Aurum S 650W. :s22::crazy:

Even comparison with closest Seasonic X-660 (costing $39 less) still requires you to commit 66.1 months or 5.5 years to recoup back.

now i know how you get your nick from.... :s13:
 

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You need to use this Seasonic P-660 PSU for 186.44 MONTHS OR 15.5 YEARS to earn back the savings from the $110 premium you are paying over FSP Aurum S 650W. :s22::crazy:

Even comparison with closest Seasonic X-660 (costing $39 less) still requires you to commit 66.1 months or 5.5 years to recoup back.

Wow! Thanks, such info are welcome and enlightening.

Have queries regarding cooling. ID Hunter is for both GPU and CPU, would it be better if I get 2 AIO, one each for GPU and CPU? This of course disregard the cost and space required.Purely from cooling and long term aspect.
 

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AIO is not long term because the small pump's flow rate (and performance) drop every year as it age ...
 

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AIO is not long term because the small pump's flow rate (and performance) drop every year as it age ...

You have a point. But I guess a life span of 3-5 years is sufficient for another upgrade. So you reckon air cool such as Noctua offer better cooling?
 

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Wow! Thanks, such info are welcome and enlightening.

Have queries regarding cooling. ID Hunter is for both GPU and CPU, would it be better if I get 2 AIO, one each for GPU and CPU? This of course disregard the cost and space required.Purely from cooling and long term aspect.

u will void your gpu warranty if u dismantle it. (unless u know how to fix it back.)
 

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Wow! Thanks, such info are welcome and enlightening.

Have queries regarding cooling. ID Hunter is for both GPU and CPU, would it be better if I get 2 AIO, one each for GPU and CPU? This of course disregard the cost and space required.Purely from cooling and long term aspect.
No point cos such AIO cooler only cools the processor core chip and not the components around it like VRMs and VRAMs. You need to ensure they are also adequately cooled if you are going for that route. VRM cooling is more important than GPU chip since they are the ones delivering power to your GPU chip and can gets hot much faster and easily. Regular HSF on graphics cards already have these VRM and VRAM cooling covered underneath the fan shroud.
 

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Assuming 370W is max load, i'll take r.m.s load at 283W.

2% energy savings out of 283W is a mere 5.66W.

Assuming 18 hours usage daily, at current tariff of 19.13 cents/kWh (according to PUB figures), you only save 59 cents per month.

Comparing with the cheapest 80 Plus Gold 650W PSU, i.e. FSP Aurum S 650W @ $119 (Lazada SG),

You need to use this Seasonic P-660 PSU for 186.44 MONTHS OR 15.5 YEARS to earn back the savings from the $110 premium you are paying over FSP Aurum S 650W. :s22::crazy:

Even comparison with closest Seasonic X-660 (costing $39 less) still requires you to commit 66.1 months or 5.5 years to recoup back.

Thanks for the input. I dont really know what are the features of a H170 mobo.
I prefer one with more USB ports. Can share more about H170 mobo?

As for PSU, platinum seems to be more energy saving compare to gold.
PC will be on for min 18hrs a day or sometimes for days in a row.
Does it make a difference on electricity in the long run?

You can take moneyface advice.

Not forgetting that what moneyface mentioned to you is on full load. Meaning to say you pc is on, and running games, running cpu intensive and gpu intensive programes.

Most of the time on idle, less demanding programes such as movies, streaming, surf net, all this consumed less power. As low as 70w range to 90w at most.

Always remember that it doesnt mean that you buy the psu rated at 500w means it will pull 500w. On idle situation it pulls less.
 

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You can take moneyface advice.

Not forgetting that what moneyface mentioned to you is on full load. Meaning to say you pc is on, and running games, running cpu intensive and gpu intensive programes.

Most of the time on idle, less demanding programes such as movies, streaming, surf net, all this consumed less power. As low as 70w range to 90w at most.

Always remember that it doesnt mean that you buy the psu rated at 500w means it will pull 500w. On idle situation it pulls less.
I already taken into account of fluctuating load hence used root mean square value of average power consumption at 283W throughout.
 

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Can also consider getting Toshiba HDD instead of WD Blue 2TB.
Cheaper, and has higher speeds in general (7200RPM vs 5400 RPM).
 

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u will void your gpu warranty if u dismantle it. (unless u know how to fix it back.)

Thanks for pointing this out. You are referring to the GPU, rite?
So the other option is to use AIO for the CPU only and add more fans in casing?
 

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You can take moneyface advice.

Most of the time on idle, less demanding programes such as movies, streaming, surf net, all this consumed less power. As low as 70w range to 90w at most.

Always remember that it doesnt mean that you buy the psu rated at 500w means it will pull 500w. On idle situation it pulls less.

So a PC build with no OC or SLi, using a 500W PSU is more than sufficient?
 

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You have a point. But I guess a life span of 3-5 years is sufficient for another upgrade. So you reckon air cool such as Noctua offer better cooling?

u can even consider cryoirg H5/H7 or cm 212 X/evo (not sure which version is available now)
 

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Can also consider getting Toshiba HDD instead of WD Blue 2TB.
Cheaper, and has higher speeds in general (7200RPM vs 5400 RPM).

Thanks for the input. Understand WD Black is fast, Red is out, Blue is average.
Also stay away from Seagate. But seems like HGST has the best fail safe rate.
 
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