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If I will go fibre tv I will invest in a good cat 6 cable at least we do our home work and if fibre is down we also lan lan can't do much about it for now I sticking cable tv until it last days

Singtel tv also using its own network too but I heard a lot of laggy on tv not in sync and the freq of down time it's bad for SingNet fibre keep me away from it




Fibre and IPTV are on both different network.
IPTV do have a separate IP from fibre and not on fibre network.
Meaning IPTV is closed network between ISP (Starhub) and you, hence your subscribed channels is control at their end without Smartcard.
As fibre network down the IPTV would still works.
IPTV do have more features as being digital as in recording & watching multiple channels at the same time.
 
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Cool to know thx bro
At least this sound more assured if fibre is down won't affect ur tv

Fibre and IPTV are on both different network.
IPTV do have a separate IP from fibre and not on fibre network.
Meaning IPTV is closed network between ISP (Starhub) and you, hence your subscribed channels is control at their end without Smartcard.
As fibre network down the IPTV would still works.
IPTV do have more features as being digital as in recording & watching multiple channels at the same time.
 

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Guys, just curious if I'm on IPV6 configuration on my DIR-868L, do I still need to key in my DNS for primary and secondary? I left it blank. My IPV6 address is automatic so it is Starhub. Do you guys use Google IPV6 DNS? If so, is it in 64 format? Some ideas would be great to optimise wherever I have currently and many thanks in advance.

Secondly, I'm also due for recontract and not sure if I should get the E7500 from Linksys as that is the recontract modem. I am on ONR and wondering if I should go ONT and get another brand router. Anyone with experience on this? I do heavy gaming on Battlefront and US servers ping is ****.

My DIR-868L has been running stably and get around 430 Mbps down / 600 Mbps up with wired connection getting around 800-900 up/down consistently so far.

Any gamers who managed to configure on 3rd party routers successfully with good connections? Asus router like alot of them have 5G network dropping issues so not sure if that is a good one to upgrade to.

Thanks for your time guys.

It is not that nobody response to you but some of your points are misleading.
Starhub do not use ONR which is use by Singtel.
Also you are not having any problem in connection as your speed is good.

As it seem that so far there is no issue on IPv6 then is there some reasons for you to tinker on this which may make things worse, that is how far to you want to optimize which you are already on the max &or best connection speed.

For the new Linksys router EA7500 could be better than the DLink 868L.
As recontract you will then have an additional router which is good enough.
So far there are no complain on this router yet as it is only initial start only.

Hence do be precise on what you want to know as it is hard to understand on your post.
 

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Btw curios on Google wifi & future hub tv fibre tv
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Each got 2 port out so could I say like this mine plan


As I check hub setup fibre tv ok here is what I plan wonder if possible

Main Google wifi
Port 1 Wan is from ont connected to first Google wifi
Port 2 I will connect a. Ethernet to my 2nd Google wifi in my room

2nd Google wifi
Port 1 will be coming from port 2 from main Google wifi
Portn2 will connect a ethernet to my desktop


3 Google wifi will be fully wifi link
Put at Kitchen

All Google wifi will be wifi enabled

Wonder will this be possible ?
Now using Asus ac66 overall is ok but Sime location signal is weaker
Will getting Google wifi or Asus ac3200 boosted it signal further on 5hz
Mine 2.4 ghz still ok
Since both google wifi & ac3200 price is similar



 
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Btw curios on Google wifi
Each got 2 port out so could I say like this mine plan


Main Google wifi on living hall port 1 is Wan Port 2 is to fibre tv. ?

So the 2nd Google wifi is link via mesh then the port out I could plipug in a ethernet to my desktop & also wifi output to my room & port 2 to fibre tv in room?

Seem like the main Google wifi dint have more. Port ?

Or I Should stick to normal wifi router like Asus ac66 I, using Now or the free Linksys ea7500 will be better in wifi coverage vs my ac66 ?

For IPTV the connection is from ONT Port-2 only and connect direct to IPTV Set-Top box.

ONT Port-1 will be connected to the Linksys EA7500 router for Starhub fibre broadband.

For Google Wifi mesh is connect to the Router via wireless or LAN ports.
In short, Google Wifi act as Access Points.
Hence this is an option with cost $15 x 24 months = $360.

As there is no main Google wifi and is a the set of 3 of the same model.
The additional LAN ports of the Google Wifi is option for wired connection.

In conclusion you will be paying an additional of $360 for the 3 Google Wifi.
For this price there is a better chance on having a high quality Or 2 Routers.

That is to say Google Wifi is like any other Wifi devices which if there are obstruction then the signal may be affected.
It is due to the fact is a Mesh networking that benefit only for those building that extend beyond the range of router wireless signal.

Did a research on how these Mesh works.
Do a good read and you can find yourself able to make this decision.
 

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Yup thx so late then reply hshaha

Ya I m looking at google wifi or Asus higher end models ass now my Asus ac66 works ok for now

So I could consider. My first Google wifi on Living room port 2 I could link to mine google wifi I plan to put in room And the google wifi in room port 2 will plug into my desktop wired mode
Plus extend my wifi in room



For IPTV the connection is from ONT Port-2 only and connect direct to IPTV Set-Top box.

ONT Port-1 will be connected to the Linksys EA7500 router for Starhub fibre broadband.

For Google Wifi mesh is connect to the Router via wireless or LAN ports.
In short, Google Wifi act as Access Points.
Hence this is an option with cost $15 x 24 months = $360.

As there is no main Google wifi and is a the set of 3 of the same model.
The additional LAN ports of the Google Wifi is option for wired connection.

In conclusion you will be paying an additional of $360 for the 3 Google Wifi.
For this price there is a better chance on having a high quality Or 2 Routers.

That is to say Google Wifi is like any other Wifi devices which if there are obstruction then the signal may be affected.
It is due to the fact is a Mesh networking that benefit only for those building that extend beyond the range of router wireless signal.

Did a research on how these Mesh works.
Do a good read and you can find yourself able to make this decision.
 

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Anyone can assist?

there is no clear-cut rule to choosing a router, but from reading online and my own experience choose routers that doesn't use broadcom chips.
choose those that uses qualcomm atheros chips.
 

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Think most Asus in Broadcom
I used Asus still ok
Dlink so so
Net gear bad experience lastbtimev so now dint dare to touch it
Pro link decent
Linksys so so
 

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For IPTV the connection is from ONT Port-2 only and connect direct to IPTV Set-Top box.

ONT Port-1 will be connected to the Linksys EA7500 router for Starhub fibre broadband.

For Google Wifi mesh is connect to the Router via wireless or LAN ports.
In short, Google Wifi act as Access Points.
Hence this is an option with cost $15 x 24 months = $360.

As there is no main Google wifi and is a the set of 3 of the same model.
The additional LAN ports of the Google Wifi is option for wired connection.

In conclusion you will be paying an additional of $360 for the 3 Google Wifi.
For this price there is a better chance on having a high quality Or 2 Routers.

That is to say Google Wifi is like any other Wifi devices which if there are obstruction then the signal may be affected.
It is due to the fact is a Mesh networking that benefit only for those building that extend beyond the range of router wireless signal.

Did a research on how these Mesh works.
Do a good read and you can find yourself able to make this decision.
Intend to place my TP, modem & switch inside the utility closet where the match panel is. Intend to place the linksys router at the tv console so hopefully best wifi coverage.

Have cat 6 ports in all the bedrooms for IPTV as well as direct connection to PC. So how would my set up work? Port 2 to the switch since u said port 2 for IPTV? But what about the cat 6 ports that i intend to connect to my pc? Also connect to same switch which connects to port 2?
 

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Intend to place my TP, modem & switch inside the utility closet where the match panel is. Intend to place the linksys router at the tv console so hopefully best wifi coverage.

Have cat 6 ports in all the bedrooms for IPTV as well as direct connection to PC. So how would my set up work? Port 2 to the switch since u said port 2 for IPTV? But what about the cat 6 ports that i intend to connect to my pc? Also connect to same switch which connects to port 2?

For better idea on view of illustrations;

TP --> ONT Port-1 --> Router; = for fibre broadband.

TP --> ONT Port-2 --> IPTV Set Top box --> TV; = for IPTV.

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In my scenario:

My TP is outside & near to the DB box.
TP, ONT and Router are placed outside the DB box, with power point.
Two LAN cables, one from Router & the other from ONT Port-2, are connected to the DB box as cut-out for cables in/out.

TP -> ONT Port-1 -> Router -> DB 1 data point to bedrooms data points.
|---> ONT Port-2 -> DB Data Point (formerly Tel pt) to my bedroom.
My bedroom Tel pt convert to Data Point --> IPTV Set Top box -> TV.

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In your scenario:

First about your utility closet and TV console arrangements.

For TP installation is normal near to the main door which connect to the outside to join the rest of the fibre cables.
So in other word your TP will be in the living room.
As DB box is also situated near to the main door, or in some, Household shelter room.
Hence your TP and ONT will be outside utility closet/DB box, unless you, as owner, decide otherwise.
Lastly there should have power points for ONT and Routers, minimum.

Although you can connect in this way;
TP --> ONT --> Data Point for living room; within the utility closet or whatever your choice.

Your next issue is to connect back to other data points in the utility closet.
TV console Data point -> Router ---> ???? --> Data points of rooms.
Meaning you need to have a LAN cable from Router LAN port to all the data points.
Unless there are 2 data points at the TV console area where you can utilize it.
Or; possible additional trucking for LAN cable to utility closet to all the rooms data points.



Regarding to your 2nd and last para;

Do note that 1 IPTV Set Top box (STB) is for 1 TV only.
Each TV must have it own STB in order to watch IPTV.
IPTV STB cost $10 monthly rental charges each.
Charges consist of $6 rental and $4 recording feature.
For subscription of channels, 1 subscriber for all STB is fine.

How many Data Point do each bedroom have.
Although 1 Data Point can be shared between Internet and IPTV but do required some settings and "managed switch" HUB, but this is beyond me.
For me moi did a convert tel point to data point, as explained above.

If you have 2 Data Points in the bedroom which required IPTV, then there is no issue.
Or if you decide to leave it at the living room TV console, then it is no issue.
For this, you can use the living room data point for IPTV purpose, instead of router.

Two other options;
1. Subscribe to Cable TV as only require cable point, additional charges.
2. Convert &or add a data point to the bedroom intend for IPTV.


I hope this give you an idea and picture on how you decide.

Regards.
 
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How many Data Point do each bedroom have.
Although 1 Data Point can be shared between Internet and IPTV but do required some settings and "managed switch" HUB, but this is beyond me.
For me moi did a convert tel point to data point, as explained above.

Managed switch hub? Got such a thing? For me, I have to install 2 data points in the room - 1 point for fibre broadband, the other point for IPTV.

As fibre broadband is coming out from port 1 of ONT and IPTV is coming from port 2 of the same ONT. I don't think can mix the signals from these 2 ports together.

My setup is as follow:

TP --> ONT Port-1 --> Wireless Router --> Data points in bedrooms; = for fibre broadband.

TP --> ONT Port-2 --> Switch --> Separate data points (from fibre broadband) in bedrooms --> IPTV Set Top box --> TV; = for IPTV
 

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Managed switch hub? Got such a thing? For me, I have to install 2 data points in the room - 1 point for fibre broadband, the other point for IPTV.

As fibre broadband is coming out from port 1 of ONT and IPTV is coming from port 2 of the same ONT. I don't think can mix the signals from these 2 ports together.

My setup is as follow:

TP --> ONT Port-1 --> Wireless Router --> Data points in bedrooms; = for fibre broadband.

TP --> ONT Port-2 --> Switch --> Separate data points (from fibre broadband) in bedrooms --> IPTV Set Top box --> TV; = for IPTV

This is mentioned in this forum, link;

http://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/n...arhub-iptv-switched-network-help-5143406.html

Do read if you are interested to understand.
 

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Ok i suck at networking so let me see if i have this right.

Port 2 on ONT --> unmanaged switch --> patch panel in utility closet --> data points in each room --> IPTV STB in each room.

Port 1 on ONT --> router --> another unmanaged switch --> data points in each room --> PCs in each room.

Is that right? The flat im going to move to was built about 10 years ago so while its not the newest there is a patch panel, power point, etc in the utility closet by the door. If TP not installed in there i can always relocate it there, no issues.

By default i believe each room has 1 data point but i could always get my contractor to do 2 per room, or as u said convert the phone port to data port. 1 connected to PC the other to IPTV STB.

The thing regarding port 1 on ONT is, if i put the router (i plan on using google wifi mesh units) inside the utility closet, its less messy as all hidden. Plus no worries about router at tv console then how the hell to get the data cables back to the patch panel in utility closet. But obviously with the google wifi unit inside the closet with door close, the wifi signal is weak. And AFAIK it defeats the purpose of mesh if your primary signal is weak.

Ideally the google wifi unit should be placed at living room tv console for best coverage. Only issue is, with ONT port 2 being used for IPTV only, then how am i going to connect all the data cables from the switch (connected to router on port 1) to the patch panel waaaay back in the utility closet? Its like going back & forth with the cables 🙄😱
 
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For having multiple IPTV most likely Starhub will assist you on this type of set up.
As they may even provide the switch hubs for you.
You could check with them.


Ok i suck at networking so let me see if i have this right.

Port 2 on ONT --> unmanaged switch --> patch panel in utility closet --> data points in each room --> IPTV STB in each room.
🙄😱
 
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For Terminal Point &or Fibre cables exist you can find out by this link;

http://rollout.netlinktrust.com

If Yes which is there are fibre cables are there.
Most likely owner did not do it at that time.
The ISP will liase with NetLink to install the TP.
The location on TP is up to the owner.

TP installation in HDB is free, in Starhub case.

Ok i suck at networking so let me see if i have this right.

Port 1 on ONT --> router --> another unmanaged switch --> data points in each room --> PCs in each room.
🙄😱
 

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Ok i suck at networking so let me see if i have this right.

Port 2 on ONT --> unmanaged switch --> patch panel in utility closet --> data points in each room --> IPTV STB in each room.

Port 1 on ONT --> router --> another unmanaged switch --> data points in each room --> PCs in each room.

Is that right? The flat im going to move to was built about 10 years ago so while its not the newest there is a patch panel, power point, etc in the utility closet by the door. If TP not installed in there i can always relocate it there, no issues.

By default i believe each room has 1 data point but i could always get my contractor to do 2 per room, or as u said convert the phone port to data port. 1 connected to PC the other to IPTV STB.

The thing regarding port 1 on ONT is, if i put the router (i plan on using google wifi mesh units) inside the utility closet, its less messy as all hidden. Plus no worries about router at tv console then how the hell to get the data cables back to the patch panel in utility closet. But obviously with the google wifi unit inside the closet with door close, the wifi signal is weak. And AFAIK it defeats the purpose of mesh if your primary signal is weak.

Ideally the google wifi unit should be placed at living room tv console for best coverage. Only issue is, with ONT port 2 being used for IPTV only, then how am i going to connect all the data cables from the switch (connected to router on port 1) to the patch panel waaaay back in the utility closet? Its like going back & forth with the cables 🙄😱
You can have the network available in each room but not necessary to put Tv box in every room. MBR will need Pay Tv but not every room. Please note that Starhub Tv set top box do have a rental fee and the first HD box cheapest is $6+ and second HD box is $17+. It is not cheap to have a HD box in every room. TBH Starhub Tv programs are quite old and most people are quite busy. Smart Tv is a better option for other bedrooms.
 

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For your info and correction.

IPTV rental is $6 + $4 recording = $10 before discount.
Cable set top box is $14 before discount.
Discount for HomeHub for TV is 10% before 7% gst.

IPTV require fibre broadband with LAN cable.
Cable set top box is using Cable point.
Both are on separate connections.
Hence data points are for IPTV.

Sometimes some subscribers do have big family as parents and children and themselves.
As these do not want any problem in who have the rights to watch.
So each do have its own tv to watch.
As subscription is based on 1 subscriber for all.

So please do not mis-inform on these type of situation.

For channels wise is to compare between Singtel and Starhub.
There are no comparison on other sources as they may or may not be legal.
But do not be caught as there was a case where many were sued for illegal download of a movie where ISP(s) were forced to provide the subscribers details.
It is up to individual to decide as this android box is common and open.

You can have the network available in each room but not necessary to put Tv box in every room. MBR will need Pay Tv but not every room. Please note that Starhub Tv set top box do have a rental fee and the first HD box cheapest is $6+ and second HD box is $17+. It is not cheap to have a HD box in every room. TBH Starhub Tv programs are quite old and most people are quite busy. Smart Tv is a better option for other bedrooms.
 
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For your info and correction.

IPTV rental is $6 + $4 recording = $10 before discount.
Cable set top box is $14 before discount.
Discount for HomeHub for TV is 10% before 7% gst.

IPTV require fibre broadband with LAN cable.
Cable set top box is using Cable point.
Both are on separate connections.
Hence data points are for IPTV.

Sometimes some subscribers do have big family as parents and children and themselves.
As these do not want any problem in who have the rights to watch.
So each do have its own tv to watch.
As subscription is based on 1 subscriber for all.

So please do not mis-inform on these type of situation.

For channels wise is to compare between Singtel and Starhub.
There are no comparison on other sources as they may or may not be legal.
But do not be caught as there was a case where many were sued for illegal download of a movie where ISP(s) were forced to provide the subscribers details.
It is up to individual to decide as this android box is common and open.

How much it cost for total of 4 boxes? $48 for the 4 HD Tv box without recording. I only have 2 boxes. 1 Tv using digital antenna for free to air. Chromecast also has legal sources like Toggle etc.
 
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How much it cost for total of 4 boxes? $48 for the 4 HD Tv box without recording. I only have 2 boxes. 1 Tv using digital antenna for free to air. Chromecast also has legal sources like Toggle etc.
For this you have to ask Starhub on individual or case by case..

IPTV do have more features than Cable.
Multi recording and watching on different channels at the same time.
Furthermore subscriber cannot subscribe to both IPTV and Cable at the same time.
 
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