Do u all belive in bazi / zi wei dou shu? - Part 11

[Dogz]

i think last time during dynastic era, only after study very long in one topic then can come out book to have own interpretation.

now anyone and everyone can write book or article to give their opinion. sometimes without enough experience or expertise

disclaimer: in general not aiming anyone. nowadays people very sensitive

That's why more and more complicated, some zwds book, flip see flip see and throw liao.

 

[blurblur123]

By way of quantifying means is absolute.

For example, let say we have a score of band A at 1-5 point, band B at 6-10 point. If someone obtain a score of 5 or 6 will put this person marginally between band A and B. Isn’t this absolute? You see my point?数据化就是绝对。A or B and no in between.

i always wonder if there is a larger proportion of ppl with bad charts and a small proportion of ppl with good charts... like a pyramid...

but i think tt is hard to quantify

 

[SoldierOfGod]

Tbh I would rather befriend an animal than a human. When an animal is angry or afraid they show it through their demeanour. When a human is angry, they smile at you and then stick a knife to your back. Ufw bazi master is a good example.

As for the 20 bucks, let’s just say it’s a topic starter to break the ice

Each of us has different perspective, just because they have different opinion doesn't mean they are not telling the truth. Even animals have different perspective as well.

i feel winning 20 bucks is still a good win, as long as it is not a negative sign (maybe also because i don't gamble) and 所谓积少成多. So am i not telling the truth base on my perspective?

 

[Dogz]

i always wonder if there is a larger proportion of ppl with bad charts and a small proportion of ppl with good charts... like a pyramid...

but i think tt is hard to quantify

Abit 数据化 ，anyway, base on engineering knowledge, normally a bell curve.

 

[Dogz]

Tbh I would rather befriend an animal than a human. When an animal is angry or afraid they show it through their demeanour. When a human is angry, they smile at you and then stick a knife to your back. Ufw bazi master is a good example.

As for the 20 bucks, let’s just say it’s a topic starter to break the ice

U never heard before Diam Gao Ga Si Lang?
Translate: Bite to death by quiet dog

 

[TUV2008]

There are two possible angle to look at this.

First way is if your chart shows you can get married but will likely to be a failure relationship, so the master instead advice you to get marriage late. This is the common way most fortune teller will say to you if they see a chart like this. They may not tell you what will happen of you marry early.

Another case is you are unlikely to have marriage in early year so they just advice you don’t waste time, focus on career now and think of marry later.

I understand that bazi analysis is fixed but if let said this particular person was supposed to marry at a later age, he or she didn't go with it, marry at earlier age, what will actually happen?

 

[New Eden]

i always wonder if there is a larger proportion of ppl with bad charts and a small proportion of ppl with good charts... like a pyramid...

but i think tt is hard to quantify

I read from a bazi book first couple of pages only already very depressing and straight to the point.

Bazi is fixed, life is destined.

Then he go on saying that people with elite bazi, during that specific day and time, very few are born. Like tigers born in the wild, only have that one or two.

While those with less optimal bazi... is like cats and dogs, 满街都是。。

I never add salt or sugar. If you need proof i can take photo of the text

 

[blurblur123]

Abit 数据化 ，anyway, base on engineering knowledge, normally a bell curve.

pai seh, think i too data driven...

 

[blurblur123]

I read from a bazi book first couple of pages only already very depressing and straight to the point.

Bazi is fixed, life is destined.

Then he go on saying that people with elite bazi, during that specific day and time, very few are born. Like tigers born in the wild, only have that one or two.

While those with less optimal bazi... is like cats and dogs, 满街都是。。

I never add salt or sugar. If you need proof i can take photo of the text

this i believe too based on my limited knowledge on sg population

 

[Dogz]

pai seh, think i too data driven...

I mean i am 数据化 by saying base on engineering knowledge.

Paiseh, let you misunderstand

 

[kebever]

By way of quantifying means is absolute.

For example, let say we have a score of band A at 1-5 point, band B at 6-10 point. If someone obtain a score of 5 or 6 will put this person marginally between band A and B. Isn’t this absolute? You see my point?数据化就是绝对。A or B and no in between.

i see your point of view.

i agree to disagree. if via this example I can just put a probability distribution on the scores/band. When the person is scored, a probability score will be returned instead.

but I think, everyone got their own field of study to pursue..

That's why more and more complicated, some zwds book, flip see flip see and throw liao.

i think I read other books.. my Chinese too poor to read good metaphysics books

 

[New Eden]

this i believe too based on my limited knowledge on sg population

You are in hospital... im sure can know certain days very bad have many uplorry of certain similar diseases.

Like when i used to be on the roads, some nights every where i go are funerals. Some night not a single one.

 

[Dogz]

i see your point of view.

i agree to disagree. if via this example I can just put a probability distribution on the scores/band. When the person is scored, a probability score will be returned instead.

I also agree what you agree/disagree.

The scoring system is able to let chart owner understand some sort of percentage he will pass or fail.

But what i disagree is that:

a) a successful businessman, everyday stress handling millions of dollar, drive Audi, multiple landed, divorced, family unstable.

b) peasant life, hardship construction worker, live in 3 room flat, have supportive wifey, kids filial

Which one should have higher score? Basically u can't give as a general, unless you break it up. Family... Score xx, wifey... Score xx, etc

 

[TUV2008]

You have very good point.

So the scoring of chart is based on someone material success or spiritual happiness?

That is why I say using hard scoring itself is a flaw.

I also agree what you agree/disagree.

The scoring system is able to let chart owner understand some sort of percentage he will pass or fail.

But what i disagree is that:

a) a successful businessman, everyday stress handling millions of dollar, drive Audi, multiple landed, divorced, family unstable.

b) peasant life, hardship construction worker, live in 3 room flat, have supportive wifey, kids filial

Which one should have higher score? Basically u can't give as a general, unless you break it up. Family... Score xx, wifey... Score xx, etc

 

[kebever]

Abit 数据化 ，anyway, base on engineering knowledge, normally a bell curve.

I also agree what you agree/disagree.

The scoring system is able to let chart owner understand some sort of percentage he will pass or fail.

But what i disagree is that:

a) a successful businessman, everyday stress handling millions of dollar, drive Audi, multiple landed, divorced, family unstable.

b) peasant life, hardship construction worker, live in 3 room flat, have supportive wifey, kids filial

Which one should have higher score? Basically u can't give as a general, unless you break it up. Family... Score xx, wifey... Score xx, etc

You have very good point.

So the scoring of chart is based on someone material success or spiritual happiness?

That is why I say using hard scoring itself is a flaw.

should not be scored, should be categorized.

nominal instead of ordinal.

so overall i agree with non-scoring. but to categorize.

scientific method end of day may not always be about scoring, can be about classifying.

 

[TUV2008]

Categorized is already being done for bazi.

At least we can say you are 食傷生財，印殺相生，身旺無制....more or less described the person strength and character

should not be scored, should be categorized.

nominal instead of ordinal.

so overall i agree with non-scoring. but to categorize.

scientific method end of day may not always be about scoring, can be about classifying.

 

[Dogz]

You have very good point.

So the scoring of chart is based on someone material success or spiritual happiness?

That is why I say using hard scoring itself is a flaw.

That's y u can use whatever to let chart owner have better understanding. But don't influence the world that bazi/zw score like they are part of 命理 study because it never exist. I also want to know, what kind of chart can get 100 full marks score.

 

[philipsony]

By height

not kkj length?

 

[New Eden]

should not be scored, should be categorized.

nominal instead of ordinal.

so overall i agree with non-scoring. but to categorize.

scientific method end of day may not always be about scoring, can be about classifying.

Already have classification ma. Example:

木火通明格

伤官配印格

日照江河格

正官七杀格

三奇格

all are 上等格

 

[TUV2008]

not kkj length?

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