Prof Fisher: Boosters do have some role in slowing transmission but it is not long-lasting, especially for Omicron

[AZE]

you forget to add in vaccine resentment from the population will rise if the freq of the jabs are getting shoter

the crux of the issue is the jabs are too leaky, no use to keep jabbing every 2-3
months, instead resouces should be deployed at our medical facilities
and borders

Well border control ish still there, but once internal community spreads started, border control ish not really effective, unless chiu want China style which ish unsustainable for SG.
As for medical resources, that's a valid point, I hab always insisted on preparing for the next crazy variant.
But then the ability to rapidly ramp up when needs arise ish more important. It ish extremely inefficient to hab tons of resources prepared only to hab them unused and expired away. Maybe that's huai some nations hab medical tourism, sho as to put an expanded set of resources and infrastructure into good use even during peaceful time.

 

[teddy123]

"Covid is still a relatively new virus, We need 8 mre yrs to come out with 10 yr series answers"

 

[AZE]

Booster schedule is based on a virus which behaves completely differently (flu), and done before understanding how COVID vaccines work. But now we know that protection by T cells last much longer, and still has limited success vs COVID, which is why the vaccine appears to still be working.

Booster strategy is also dependent on getting updated vaccines, which we still don't have. We need Omicron vaccine, but more importantly we need Delta vaccine. Now we only have WT vaccine, that's the reason for effectiveness seemingly going down.

T cells ish the 2nd line of defence, it probably prevent severe illness but does not prevent infection, which ish huai ppl might gets infected but don't die to covid after vaccinations.
In order to flatten the curve we need to prevent infection in the 1st place, and to slow the spread.

Updated vaccines won't make it in time until the current wave ish over.
The current vaccines still works well, just not as well as against previous variants.
Using them to smoothen and mesh the transition into endemic Omicron ish the right choice. Either that or we are looking at more stringent measures to restrict economy and social life.

 

[TurboBumbleBee]

Did Flu or common cold ever ended?
The issue just turn mild over time, either due to the variants eventually becomes mild, or that the population immunity builds up to resist the worst of the issues, or that all the "coolie genes" are all culled.
Rikely a combination of all of them.

Y are u comparing covid to flu…?

 

[AZE]

Y are u comparing covid to flu…?

FLU hab been super deadly in the past, and in certain sense, during modern winter seasons it still ish a threat to the vulnerable, though smaller one, just that ppl somehow agreed to accept the inevitable...
COVID19 ish still not quite there yet, though it remains hopeful that Omicron might set the trend.

 

[King.Koopa]

"Unfortunately though, it is one of our few tools to counter mass transmission other than harsh social restrictions and movement orders which no one wants," he said.



https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...ve-singapore-experts-booster-vaccines-2420191

can pofma him? I am very sure can find people in sg that rather impose lock down.

 

[Pocoyoz]

wait for new version vaccine

 

[noobmaster89]

2020 when edmwers saying masks do have some role in slowing spread of covid this sexpert said no, that masks might do more harm than good cause people touch face

Who could forget that epic comic

 

[desmond_yee1]

can pofma him? I am very sure can find people in sg that rather impose lock down.

only elites and business owners are scare of lockdowns

 

[quirkyhill]

Didnt omicron happen in spite of vaccination? What is boostering gonna do to stop the next variant from happening and starting yet another round of boostering? When does this end?

clearly a 4th jab is needed /s

 

[tank_t]

Lets crowd fund dr fisher to omicron infested cities.

 

[TurboBumbleBee]

FLU hab been super deadly in the past, and in certain sense, during modern winter seasons it still ish a threat to the vulnerable, though smaller one, just that ppl somehow agreed to accept the inevitable...
COVID19 ish still not quite there yet, though it remains hopeful that Omicron might set the trend.

But what is flu’s relevance to covid, with regards to how the same covid vaccines are the solution to variants that occur despite these vaccines?

 

[Sultana]

Asking ppl to jab jus for some role in slowing transmission? Where & where is the end game?
Why r they so quiet about side effects? Is there any? If there isn't, oso must give assurance. Don't jus jab for a little effects but later hv big side effects.

 

[AZE]

But what is flu’s relevance to covid, with regards to how the same covid vaccines are the solution to variants that occur despite these vaccines?

To blunt the effects of the virus and slow their spread and prevent the worst of the issues rike death and overwhelming healthcare.
Flu variants appears every single year as well, sometimes bi annually, sometimes some crazier ones appear as well.
But mostly mild by now compared to the distant past.

 

[BoosterJab]

Which idiot suggested using the spike proteins as prophylaxis?

 

[TurboBumbleBee]

To blunt the effects of the virus and slow their spread and prevent the worst of the issues rike death and overwhelming healthcare.
Flu variants appears every single year as well, sometimes bi annually, sometimes some crazier ones appear as well.
But mostly mild by now compared to the distant past.

But if using flu as example, even flu shots are constantly adjusted to match seasonal variants. How come for covid is jab the same one over and over again? And when new variants appear despite these jabs, still jab the same one again and again?

 

[tokiya]

only elites and business owners are scare of lockdowns

Low gdp will affect bonus

 

[BoosterJab]

But if using flu as example, even flu shots are constantly adjusted to match seasonal variants. How come for covid is jab the same one over and over again? And when new variants appear despite these jabs, still jab the same one again and again?

Nobody smells a rat?

 

[AZE]

But if using flu as example, even flu shots are constantly adjusted to match seasonal variants. How come for covid is jab the same one over and over again? And when new variants appear despite these jabs, still jab the same one again and again?

Because Flu don't mutate that fast.
And because a large part of Flu vaccines are actually "guesstimates", consisting of both estimates of potential drift of future strains and prevailing strains.
There were quite a number of time where the ""guesstimates" went wrong btw and the vaccine ended up a lot less effective.
As for COVID, the trend and drift are not that well studied yet, any "gesstimations" might be risky, and that real life deployment data showed that they still work to a certain extent.

 

[TurboBumbleBee]

Because Flu don't mutate that fast.
And because a large part of Flu vaccines are actually "guesstimates", consisting of both estimates of potential drift of future strains and prevailing strains.
There were quite a number of time where the ""guesstimates" went wrong btw and the vaccine ended up a lot less effective.
As for COVID, the trend and drift are not that well studied yet, any "gesstimations" might be risky, and that real life deployment data showed that they still work to a certain extent.

Do u mean covid mutates faster than flu? If flu doesnt mutate that fast, and even they need to be adjusted seasonally, then shouldnt the vaccines for the faster mutating covid be adjusted even more often? Seems a bit contradictory to me…?