Prof Fisher: Boosters do have some role in slowing transmission but it is not long-lasting, especially for Omicron

[desmond_yee1]

Moderna booster ish ~70-80% effective against Omicron for 10 weeks, Pfizer ish 50-70% over the same period.
Without boosters, both primary schedule ish only 10% effective after 20 weeks.

No brainer whether they works.

It ish either boosters to slow spread + keep economy and society open, or to lock down economy and society to slow spread.

Should always use boosters to smoothly mesh in the population immunity against a slowed spread of the Omicron, while keeping the economy and society somewhat open, and preventing a high peak in hospitalisations and too many workers and HCWs being required to isolate at the same time due to being infected.

booster roll out too slow, those who jab in sept-nov now no protection

 

[dxdx999]

then jab for fug?

this is getting dumb.



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[AZE]

booster roll out too slow, those who jab in sept-nov now no protection

Well they are following the original schedule for boosters(~5-6 mths) to target that "sweet spot".
The main issue ish take up rate ish too low, or else SG will be in a very very good position.

Chiu see huai some nations reduced booster timing to 3/4 mths?
Some even authorised 4th dose?

Just meant to reduce the spike and flatten the curve and let the population immunity mesh into the Omicron virus spread smoothly while trying to keep economy open and to prevent healthcare from being overwhelmed.

 

[TurboBumbleBee]

Moderna booster ish ~70-80% effective against Omicron for 10 weeks, Pfizer ish 50-70% over the same period.
Without boosters, both primary schedule ish only 10% effective after 20 weeks.

No brainer whether they works.

It ish either boosters to slow spread + keep economy and society open, or to lock down economy and society to slow spread.

Should always use boosters to smoothly mesh in the population immunity against a slowed spread of the Omicron, while keeping the economy and society somewhat open, and preventing a high peak in hospitalisations and too many workers and HCWs being required to isolate at the same time due to being infected.

Didnt omicron happen in spite of vaccination? What is boostering gonna do to stop the next variant from happening and starting yet another round of boostering? When does this end?

 

[elimmel]

say now got what use? after 14Feb can don't boost?

 

[desmond_yee1]

Well they are following the original schedule for boosters(~5-6 mths) to target that "sweet spot".
The main issue ish take up rate ish too low, or else SG will be in a very very good position.

Chiu see huai some nations reduced booster timing to 3/4 mths?
Some even authorised 4th dose?

Just meant to reduce the spike and flatten the curve and let the population immunity mesh into the Omicron virus spread smoothly while trying to keep economy open and to prevent healthcare from being overwhelmed.

you forget to add in vaccine resentment from the population will rise if the freq of the jabs are getting shoter

the crux of the issue is the jabs are too leaky, no use to keep jabbing every 2-3
months, instead resouces should be deployed at our medical facilities
and borders

 

[Senna Wales]

As usual, the only expert worth listening to is Prof Leo. It seems that she's the only one who actually wants to reduce transmission instead of uncontrolled endemic spread.

 

[icezombie]

On the latest requirement to have three vaccine shots before being considered fully vaccinated, Prof Fisher said that boosters do have some role in slowing transmission but it is not long-lasting, especially for Omicron.

"Unfortunately though, it is one of our few tools to counter mass transmission other than harsh social restrictions and movement orders which no one wants," he said.

From Feb 14, those aged 18 and above will have to take a booster shot within 270 days of completing their primary vaccination series in order to maintain a fully vaccinated status against COVID-19.

Prof Leo said that although Omicron causes seemingly milder disease among those with pre-existing immunity, people should do their best to slow down its transmission to reduce the disruption to our day-to-day life, and protect human resources across all works of life "to sustain a healthy state".

"An infected person can transmit the virus to others and the most unwanted side effect is to pass on the virus to vulnerable persons at home or someone close. Besides, having more cases also allows the virus the chance to mutate," she said.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sin...ve-singapore-experts-booster-vaccines-2420191

Then boost for what?

 

[williewombat615]

Booster is necessary. But should be using the appropriate booster for omicron or even delta, not the outdated booster for the alpha wuhan strain

Somemore, pfizer already say can produce omicron booster in 100days. Why still insist on outdated ineffective boosters?

Need to clear stock.

 

[icezombie]

LOL awaken already is it?
Now then know boosters are not the answer? HAHAHAHAHA

I thought this is common sense.

Please … gong jiao wei sexpert need his ricebowl. Dun picha his lobang leh let him come out captain obvious a bit to justify his overly high celery can?

 

[white_prince]

then what's the use of keep jabbing, those who took booster early how?

Political reason to be pro-USA.
Then got hit back by US for unknown status.

 

[Medicated Oil]

He dun have the guts to say that the snake oil is useless.

 

[lalalalalala]

soon everyday jab liao, worse than druggie

pub should just mix into the water and save everyone time

 

[Dark.Horizon]

wow this worthless overpaid jlb piece of junk is talking sense for once.

really 2022 is off to a wild start


Sent by a cotton-making sheep

 

[Senna Wales]

booster roll out too slow, those who jab in sept-nov now no protection

Well they are following the original schedule for boosters(~5-6 mths) to target that "sweet spot".
The main issue ish take up rate ish too low, or else SG will be in a very very good position.

Chiu see huai some nations reduced booster timing to 3/4 mths?
Some even authorised 4th dose?

Just meant to reduce the spike and flatten the curve and let the population immunity mesh into the Omicron virus spread smoothly while trying to keep economy open and to prevent healthcare from being overwhelmed.

Booster schedule is based on a virus which behaves completely differently (flu), and done before understanding how COVID vaccines work. But now we know that protection by T cells last much longer, and still has limited success vs COVID, which is why the vaccine appears to still be working.

Booster strategy is also dependent on getting updated vaccines, which we still don't have. We need Omicron vaccine, but more importantly we need Delta vaccine. Now we only have WT vaccine, that's the reason for effectiveness seemingly going down.

 

[peaceheart]

Yes, pls tell us something we duno

 

[GarnetDragon]

Dat moment when chiu realize, da booster shots were produced and purchased, waayyy befoar these mutant variants existed!

 

[AZE]

Didnt omicron happen in spite of vaccination? What is boostering gonna do to stop the next variant from happening and starting yet another round of boostering? When does this end?

Did Flu or common cold ever ended?
The issue just turn mild over time, either due to the variants eventually becomes mild, or that the population immunity builds up to resist the worst of the issues, or that all the "coolie genes" are all culled.
Rikely a combination of all of them.

 

[RedOrion]

Those very keen to follow in line with narrative should continue to get whatever there is to offer.
Its good that the rest of us will have more data to pore over and decide later. kamsia

 

[laopokcar_g]

if omicron is as mild as MIW say it is, put your money where the mouth is and stop this booster and mask wearing and all other restrictions.

now you say is mild but got tons of "safe guards" is akin to telling your gf to have sex with you with the promise of not getting pregnant but you still insist on wearing a condom

It's to keep FT and tourists safe.

Booster only for sinkies and dogs