What's your budget? Broadly speaking, Yeossal and Collaro would be a step above Lai En and Sze Sze in terms of quality and price, in the range of mid 100s/200s for shirts and trousers respectively.
$150 for shirts, around $200 for pants I still cannot find a tailor that I like for pants
I got measured in-store for both. Their fits are pretty similar for me (honestly it really depends on who measured you and how your preferences are articulated) but the make of Collaro shirts is better in terms of workmanship. Yeossal is slightly cheaper for branded fabrics in general. Also, pants can be quite tricky to get right so it will be best to see which of their offerings are more aligned to your preferences.
for pants, I'm looking for something between slim fit and classic fit
Suggest you shortlist the tailors that can do suit and pants within $500 and call them On their workload. In theory, locally made fused suit can be done within 2 weeks, since your budget isn’t going for full canvassed suit or anything which involve complex handwork. However, it depends on workload of each tailor. If tailor has 20 suits to hand over to customers next week, they may not be able to support.
What's the point of recommending Sakal if their CMT/drafting is clearly outsourced elsewhere? Do they even have the capabilities to draft? He may as well go to the makers in this case. Is Sakal so hard up that they have to take CMT? Is that why you are consistently shilling Sakal here?
I suggest that you take a look at the Instagram page of the tailors to see which tailor suits your aesthetics well. Of course, if you like 10 pocket cargo shorts, oblique suit in the name of '''Savile''' Row tailoring, don't hesitate to visit Sakal. I have quite an athletic physique too and both Yeossal and Collaro were able to fit me well since their house cut lean more towards a drapey cut.
Clearly you are not into CMT. The number 1 reason for maker to not take in CMT is because if there is an error, there is no replacement fabric to recut and resew, then the maker will be liable for sourcing a replacement or paying damages to customer. The number 1 reason for tailor not to do CMT is because a large part of the profit margin is from sale of fabrics and without that, the boutique tailor shop doesn’t earn much for all the efforts. Only easy going tailors confident in their work would do CMT, after all, a European fabric like Scabal cost $150 and above for 1m. Ideally the tape measurer, drafter and cutter is the same person but unfortunately in Singapore, it’s specialised like factory, with 1 person acting as fabric consultant and tape measurer and factory doing the draft,cut and sewing but to consumer, as long as you get a quality product at reasonable price, this point is moot.
Precisely my point. No self-respecting tailor would accept CMT because it would eat into their profit margins and cannibalise their sales. Is Sakal so hard up that they resorted to taking CMT?
Can try Kay-Jen or Inpersonam...
What is the point of going to Sakal for CMT if he can get measured in these 'factories' directly? Are their patterns going to change if he was to be measured in Sakal? As a matter of fact, it's going to be much more limiting since it is another layer of communication to the factory. Like you said, at the end of the day, it will still be sent to a factory. Go Sakal for what?
Depends on fabric... Usually from high $100 for shirts.. if you go for Thomas Mason kind then likely $200+.. for pants... Pure wool $300+.
I think you are in good hands with Yeossal and Collaro then. Unless you lean towards a house cut with bulging crotch line like Sa**l.
Yes, unless you don't bend your knees.have u tried their pure wool? how is it?
changing material is the only way out for the creases behind the knees?
u guys got me tempted to try Kay Jen
Full canvassed construction cheaper than famous local factory, and cheapest local factory don’t do CMT suits because high risk of error. Too high risk for too Low returns because I use expensive Dormeuil or Scabal fabrics. Trust me, I visited many factories myself. in fact, if you visit the cheapest of them whom I suspect outsource to Batam, they will tell you only 1 customer CMT pants with them. And that’s me. For someone new to tailoring, if you go to factory, you will not be entertained unless you know clearly what you want. Factory will give you the swatch books ( no European fabrics) and ask you to pick fabric , measure you and ask some options that you want, that’s it. zero fabric consultation, purpose of wear, what looks good for your body, show you different types of side adjusters, different buttons, pleats etc. NIL. If you have many questions, you are wasting their time. They are there to receive orders from boutique tailor shops, draft, cut, sew, not to serve retail customers. Of course, if you already have tailored pants like I do, you can bring to factory to copy. So if you have a vision of something that you want, but don’t have it yet to copy, no point going to factory, that is the job of fabric consultant and designer that Sakal is good at.You want service and European fabrics, you go to boutique tailor shops Boutique tailor shop is one stop service, factory is if you have time to buy fabric , know what you want and can communicate tailoring jargons.
