[CONSOLIDATED][Russia Edition] General discussion on Ukraine/Russia war

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diablodestroyer said:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/russi...-over-vladimir-putins-war-failures-in-ukraine
Hey guys, I saw some mention of Russia state Tele saying invasion will just take 11 mins, then finally they concluded 15 years and even 40 years

Can help me confirm from your Russia sources whether the TV channel really got say until 11 mins?

Was this the time frame u all also estimating like 15 or 40 years?

Like you all I like to read news from various sources to have a fair view so I am a bit skeptical Russia TV would actually say that but I wanna see if you guys got evidence on your side so I can judge the accuracy of this daily beast better

Was this the mind blown u all were talking about cause I think this is worthy of that description
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Logically, do you think Putin will still be president in 15 to 40 years? Or are you hoping the next Russian president carries on the conflict?

Between the two circle-jerks, I personally have more disdain for the self-righteous than those who lack empathy. Because the self-righteous won't even know they themselves are lacking empathy while criticising others.
 
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Overture1928 said:
Logically, do you think Putin will still be president in 15 to 40 years? Or are you hoping the next Russian president carries on the conflict?

Between the two circle-jerks, I personally have more disdain for the self-righteous than those who lack empathy. Because the self-righteous won't even know they themselves are lacking empathy while criticising others.
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Putin lost plenty of face already and I think any other next Russian president will learn from the mistake and not mess with Ukraine, but I'm more interested in the time frame that is being featured here.. 11 mins to 40 years
 
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diablodestroyer said:
Putin lost plenty of face already and I think any other next Russian president will learn from the mistake and not mess with Ukraine, but I'm more interested in the time frame that is being featured here.. 11 mins to 40 years
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Clearly it is hogwash isn't it.

What's the timeline you're hoping for this to end? Personally, I don't want it to drag any further and realistically I hope at least the ceasefire can be brokered before end-April.

There'll be military occupation then maybe it'll be like Crimea where a referendum is held. But that is after Russia migrating a significant community of pro-Russians.

Your thoughts?
 
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Overture1928 said:
Clearly it is hogwash isn't it.

What's the timeline you're hoping for this to end? Personally, I don't want it to drag any further and realistically I hope at least the ceasefire can be brokered before end-April.

There'll be military occupation then maybe it'll be like Crimea where a referendum is held. But that is after Russia migrating a significant community of pro-Russians.

Your thoughts?
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End asap is good especially if the end is Putin pulling back his troops although the damage to the innocents is already done

But I was under the impression that Kyiv was supposed to fall blah blah blah and like the article I was quoting it said 11 mins to take over Ukraine which I agree its probably hogwash but if the Russian TV said it, then sounds like they are talking hogwash

So since this thread is filled with people who are adept at getting Russia news, checking with them whether they can get this verified and maybe give us a better date and time frame

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russi...-over-vladimir-putins-war-failures-in-ukraine
 
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diablodestroyer said:
End asap is good especially if the end is Putin pulling back his troops although the damage to the innocents is already done

But I was under the impression that Kyiv was supposed to fall blah blah blah and like the article I was quoting it said 11 mins to take over Ukraine which I agree its probably hogwash but if the Russian TV said it, then sounds like they are talking hogwash

So since this thread is filled with people who are adept at getting Russia news, checking with them whether they can get this verified and maybe give us a better date and time frame

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russi...-over-vladimir-putins-war-failures-in-ukraine
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I dare to say even Russia can't establish a date themselves because they severely miscalculated.

Even the Western armies are surprised by the Ukrainian response and their ability to organize themselves into small, agile groups to wreck havoc along Russian supply lines, which I'm sure you already are aware of
 
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orangefr3ak said:
Even better, their Defence Secretary was pranked too!
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The 2 importatnt positions for security, one internal, one external.... both duped. And duped not by professionals but pranksters ? May be our Kumar can pretend to be Vivian and make a call to them as well. How about it ? May be we can also get Kumar to be our president one day !!!
 
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curiosity_20 said:
Would you consider Singapore being run by an authoritarian government? Singapore is not far from being a police state.
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I actually think they are very good. Wealth going up every year. Take care of the people, so many subsidies. Things are well run. And we don't have crazy high taxes like the whole western world.
 
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Overture1928 said:
https://forums.hardwarezone.com.sg/threads/mod-thoughts-there-are-two-sides.6721910/page-2

Can we all agree to give our mods a break they deserve and go easy against baiting any sides?

We're all adults here, right?

P.S., I posted this one both ends.
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Just stick to the thread you prefer,
but then the SJWs need to go to every thread to preach, bait and pick a fight.
People need to grow up and learn that both sides are propogandas,
instead of picking sides and become a SJW.
Like that Mod will have a easier time.
The thread title already stated this is a russia perception of the situation in Ukraine.
 
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randyap said:
Just stick to the thread you prefer,
but then the SJWs need to go to every thread to preach and pick a fight.
People need to grow up and learn that both sides are propogandas,
instead of picking sides and become a SJW.
Like that Mod will have a easier time.
The thread title already stated this is a russia perception of the situation in Ukraine.
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We can't control how others think or respond, but we can exercise self-control.

And as adults, we should and that's just my appeal
 
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Overture1928 said:
I dare to say even Russia can't establish a date themselves because they severely miscalculated.

Even the Western armies are surprised by the Ukrainian response and their ability to organize themselves into small, agile groups to wreck havoc along Russian supply lines, which I'm sure you already are aware of
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Ah, explains the lack of dates from the folks here... Looks like even the people supporting Russia are also not that confident of Putin capability...

Maybe even more so now that Putin is changing goal post

The guys here should have been more forthcoming and not ask me to look through the entire thread (or dunno what 10 pages) for a date they do not even dare to guess anymore
 
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GoodBetterBest said:
Home Secretary can be duped ? Their Home is equivalent to our MHA ? First of all, Home Secretary is internal affairs, not foreign affairs? And how to protect home if they themselves can be duped ?
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Just blind #SupportUA without even having critical thinking. :LOL:
So eben prank calls disguising at Ukrainians from any tom, dick and harry, as long as chiu speak england in slavic slang/style, they will treat it rike real. :ROFLMAO:
 
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diablodestroyer said:
Ah, explains the lack of dates from the folks here... Looks like even the people supporting Russia are also not that confident of Putin capability...

Maybe even more so now that Putin is changing goal post

The guys here should have been more forthcoming and not ask me to look through the entire thread (or dunno what 10 pages) for a date they do not even dare to guess anymore
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Maybe drop that assumption that people participating in this thread are pro-Putin?

You're assuming I'm speaking for the rest too, which I'm not actually. What I stated are my own opinions.
 
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