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Harassing user, this is a discussion forum. Pls discuss and not badger
Overture1928 said:
Maybe drop that assumption that people participating in this thread are pro-Putin?

You're assuming I'm speaking for the rest too, which I'm not actually. What I stated are my own opinions.
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Oh is there someone here that is anti Putin? Haven't seen yet maybe u can point me to them ba

Well then let's leave the other people to answer for themselves cause I was still waiting for a date

Since at least the article I quoted showed some Russians giving some dates 11 mins to 40 years I would like to here those concerned with this matter and aware of the Russian media to prove the source wrong or... Admit the source is right
 
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diablodestroyer said:
Oh is there someone here that is anti Putin? Haven't seen yet maybe u can point me to them ba

Well then let's leave the other people to answer for themselves cause I was still waiting for a date

Since at least the article I quoted showed some Russians giving some dates 11 mins to 40 years I would like to here those concerned with this matter and aware of the Russian media to prove the source wrong or... Admit the source is right
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You can look at my past posts and decide yourself :)

Sounds like you are who those mods have described as those who are baiting for arguments eh.
 
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Bait fight
Overture1928 said:
You can look at my past posts and decide yourself :)

Sounds like you are who those mods have described as those who are baiting for arguments eh.
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No lei? I'm looking for dates! I'm curious to know when it is ending since we have 11 mins to 40 years now...

Who else am I to ask if not in this thread? Or you saying the people in this thread are not able to hazard a guess? Then just say like what u say lo.. Cannot estimate cause ukrainians fighting very hard, or to much unnoticed variables, or change target so no such thing as date for overrunning Ukraine..

But it's just silence or deflection...

Seems like I am pretty on topic for this what

But anyway the proceedings are interesting and I would understand it would likely be as you said, no dates to give already at this point since they miscalculated like anything
 
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diablodestroyer said:
No lei? I'm looking for dates! I'm curious to know when it is ending since we have 11 mins to 40 years now...

Who else am I to ask if not in this thread? Or you saying the people in this thread are not able to hazard a guess? Then just say like what u say lo.. Cannot estimate cause ukrainians fighting very hard, or to much unnoticed variables, or change target so no such thing as date for overrunning Ukraine..

But it's just silence or deflection...

Seems like I am pretty on topic for this what

But anyway the proceedings are interesting and I would understand it would likely be as you said, no dates to give already at this point since they miscalculated like anything
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Interestingly, I don't know how did overruning Ukraine became part of my opinion.

I think you can stop hiding behind the veil because your feigning of innocence is now appearing to be a lack of integrity instead.
 
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rabbit1 said:


LOL Russian MSM clowns trying to find Russian sympathizers and livestream it in Mariupol

This part of city is near Crimea, so a lot of Russian speakers who they thought want Russia to "liberate" them. But what to liberate when they destroyed everything?



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good to see some real footage that's not outright Ukrainian/Russian propaganda for once....but it coming from Russian side is really funny to see when we keep seeing staged/fake vids from Ukraine side.
 
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enigmastar said:
Nice. This meant they acknowledge they know that invading kyiv and taking over ukraine is impossible now. This statement is to save their face. Most probably the war is winding down and Russia will concentrate in consolidating the territory they gained.
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but it's weird.

their objective from the start was to "neutralize" & "de-nazify" Ukraine no?
but we have ppl spewing BS that Russia failed to conquer Ukraine so they have lost. etc
Occupying was never part of their strategy/goals.

1. Russian's main target, AKA Majority of the Azov/Aidar/Banderists were all caught off-guard when they were all gathered in the eastern part of Ukraine when Russia struck. About 160k of them.

2. Mariupol had around 70k last i heard, Kharkiv has another big detachment, with the rest scattered around smaller settlements.

as far as we can see here, Mariupol has fallen, Kharkiv is close to falling, alot of the smaller settlements gg also.
Meaning a large % of these Azov type have been eliminated....so they already achieved a large part of what they have set out to do.


personally, i don't think it will end so soon, earliest is late April or early May.

Also, I maintain my believe that the most likely outcome will end with balkanization of Ukraine like Yugoslavia
 
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bakuten said:
but it's weird.

their objective from the start was to "neutralize" & "de-nazify" Ukraine no?
but we have ppl spewing BS that Russia failed to conquer Ukraine so they have lost. etc
Occupying was never part of their strategy/goals.

1. Russian's main target, AKA Majority of the Azov/Aidar/Banderists were all caught off-guard when they were all gathered in the eastern part of Ukraine when Russia struck. About 160k of them.

2. Mariupol had around 70k last i heard, Kharkiv has another big detachment, with the rest scattered around smaller settlements.

as far as we can see here, Mariupol has fallen, Kharkiv is close to falling, alot of the smaller settlements gg also.
Meaning a large % of these Azov type have been eliminated....so they already achieved a large part of what they have set out to do.


personally, i don't think it will end so soon, earliest is late April or early May.

Also, I maintain my believe that the most likely outcome will end with balkanization of Ukraine like Yugoslavia
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i ish think majority of the Azov got destroyed already since Mariupol is fallen... ;)
 
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Overture1928 said:
Clearly it is hogwash isn't it.

What's the timeline you're hoping for this to end? Personally, I don't want it to drag any further and realistically I hope at least the ceasefire can be brokered before end-April.

There'll be military occupation then maybe it'll be like Crimea where a referendum is held. But that is after Russia migrating a significant community of pro-Russians.

Your thoughts?
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doubt so.

There's no interest for Russia in western Ukr which is populated by ethnic Ukrainians anyway. Occupying it would just be a waste of resource.

It would be easier/feasible to broker a deal, and chop out the eastern part of the country and turn it into a protectorate or have them join the federation.
 
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Hiling care said:
If the Russians say the goal is to denazify, then how is it possible that the so called nazi elements only exist in the east side of ukraine?
I think more like they giving up.
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Russia destroying Nazi Azov Battalion.
https://www.france24.com/en/live-ne...-takes-centre-stage-in-ukraine-propaganda-war
Paris (AFP) – Some call them war heroes, others neo-Nazis: Ukraine's Azov Regiment is at the heart of the propaganda war between Kyiv and Moscow, as Russia claims to seek the "denazification" of Ukraine.
 
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bakuten said:
neither, im guessing Kharkiv's next.
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yes, should kharkiv, coz the ruskie wanna secure all the eastern part and also to link up eastern ukraine with russia + north east linked up with sourthern part.

After Kharkiv would be Odessa, i belib...
To cut off ukraine from sea access... stopping weapons from coming in.
 
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