[GLGT] It will now cost around S$24 to fully charge a Tesla Model 3 Standard Range Single Motor in SG

[waterdestiny]

Why was it even free

In sg, the only thing that is free is oxygen

 

[inmyopinion]

And in Singapore, motorists waste a lot of money on Petrol because of the traffic jams and start stop condition.

You drive expressway, smooth smooth, many can easily clock 15km per litre.

Morning/evening traffic jams, mostly 8km/litre

IMO, we should do a comparison between hybrid vs EVs.

 

[likevegetable]

Still better than pump full tank in jaybee

 

[DragonBlack]

Users will now be charged S$0.48 per kilowatt-hour for using the Superchargers, and idle fees will be chargeable too.


The idle fees will be S$0.50 per minute and S$1.00 per minute when the station is 100% occupied. These idling fees will apply to all Model S, Model X, Model 3, and Model Y cars.

Based on Tesla’s Supercharger prices, the cost to charge a Model 3 standard range would be S$24. As for the Singaporean who took 46 minutes to fully charge the Model 3 performance, it would now cost S$37.44 with the new Supercharger pricing structure.

https://www.carbuyer.com.sg/2022-te...jJnG1XPmhQwBW3ifr8mRLgkq6VIbfsd0RtVW0eQLlqEZ8

Soon it will rise to $100, then nobody buys EV riao.

 

[Decorum]

In 46 minutes i can go from tuas to changi airport, park my car and drink starbucks

 

[Lex1989]

I bring to office and charge, FOC.

 

[Lex1989]

In sg, the only thing that is free is oxygen

Where got free?

NEA plant trees, no need pay ah!

 

[razorlala]

Got other hidden cost which first gen ev owner not aware of yet. Eg battery replacement will cost few 10s of k. You ever use a phone where the battery is still good after 10 years?

Tesla battery replacement cost.. Might as well buy new car

 

[benedium]

Tesla is sports car so will prolly never be as efficient as hybrid prius.

 

[Suporter]

Sell the and move in to the ...

 

[Mr Duck]

Users will now be charged S$0.48 per kilowatt-hour for using the Superchargers, and idle fees will be chargeable too.


The idle fees will be S$0.50 per minute and S$1.00 per minute when the station is 100% occupied. These idling fees will apply to all Model S, Model X, Model 3, and Model Y cars.

Based on Tesla’s Supercharger prices, the cost to charge a Model 3 standard range would be S$24. As for the Singaporean who took 46 minutes to fully charge the Model 3 performance, it would now cost S$37.44 with the new Supercharger pricing structure.

https://www.carbuyer.com.sg/2022-te...jJnG1XPmhQwBW3ifr8mRLgkq6VIbfsd0RtVW0eQLlqEZ8

But once you drive almost battery flat due to busy to charge. You jam in heavy traffic, very heavy rain. You dare not on your aircon even your wiper only one at a time.

 

[BrOwnTeddy]

$120per full tank, vs $24 per full charge.
assuming both full tank/charge is same mileage, thats $96 savings.

dont seem like good roi comparing petrol vehicle vs tesla.

Factor in road tax as well.

Comparing apples to apples, the equivalent power output of a Tesla Model 3 (ie, 165kw or about 220bhp) is a GTi, Skoda Octavia RS245, A250 AMG.

Take those cars road tax and stretch it out over 12mths, assuming once a week charge / once a week petrol top up for these cars expenses; do ur maths.

Off the top of my head iirc, The price diff not too far off

 

[wMulew]

normal car pump full tank how much?

Right now about $100 if pump 92


Read HWZ Forum Rules!

 

[DragonFire]

Yeah Many people here don’t drive a lot. I pump once every 2 weeks only. Car At 60k after 3.5 years.

I think ev actually makes the most sense for commercial vehicles esp those business that has premise to instal own charger. But don’t see too many commercial ev available. And also the electricity for business is currently much higher

Especially so if the EV owner has a big factory or warehouse, and can put a decent sized unshaded solar array in. Right now my company is running mainly LPG forklifts. Study being done to see if full electric forklifts can replace them.

 

[drkcynic]

Yeah Many people here don’t drive a lot. I pump once every 2 weeks only. Car At 60k after 3.5 years.

I think ev actually makes the most sense for commercial vehicles esp those business that has premise to instal own charger. But don’t see too many commercial ev available. And also the electricity for business is currently much higher

I find too many people own cars when they don't need it. They just buy it because of "face", it's like the quintessential sinkie item to buy if you want to show you have "made it".

 

[bossjiaksai]

For now, EV is only practical for people staying in landed or have a lot of time on their hands aka rich people

A Tesla model 3 is basically the equivalent of a Toyota Altis in terms of trim level etc. Performance aside (you cannot simply compare Tesla 3 to say BMW M5 in terms of power cause they have very different drive trains, “engines” all together).

An Altis has a road tax of $700 a year, Tesla has road tax of $3000 a year. That’s $2300 more every year

Assuming you pay $25 for 400km in a Tesla, that 400km will cost the Altis around 30 litres of RON95 petrol. Which is about $70 after discounts. So the extra is $45 per 400km. Let’s assume petrol continues to rise and this difference is doubled, to $90, which is excessive already cause that is assuming petrol is $6 per litre

If you clock 20,000km a year, it means you are paying an extra $2,250 more (at current petrol levels) and $4,500 more (at doubled the petrol price). Nett after factoring in the road tax, it becomes negative if petrol is at current levels, and extra $2,200 at doubled petrol prices.

However, this is assuming electricity remains at the same tariffs. If oil doubles, I doubt tariffs will remain the same.

Not to mention the initial cost of the car which is also doubled from an Altis. The serviceability, reliability. Plus the lifestyle changes you need to make if you are not staying in a landed.

For now, the masses should consider a hybrid. Not an EV

 

[drkcynic]

For now, EV is only practical for people staying in landed or have a lot of time on their hands aka rich people

A Tesla model 3 is basically the equivalent of a Toyota Altis in terms of trim level etc. Performance aside (you cannot simply compare Tesla 3 to say BMW M5 in terms of power cause they have very different drive trains, “engines” all together).

An Altis has a road tax of $700 a year, Tesla has road tax of $3000 a year. That’s $2300 more every year

Assuming you pay $25 for 400km in a Tesla, that 400km will cost the Altis around 30 litres of RON95 petrol. Which is about $70 after discounts. So the extra is $45 per 400km. Let’s assume petrol continues to rise and this difference is doubled, to $90, which is excessive already cause that is assuming petrol is $6 per litre

If you clock 20,000km a year, it means you are paying an extra $2,250 more (at current petrol levels) and $4,500 more (at doubled the petrol price). Nett after factoring in the road tax, it becomes negative if petrol is at current levels, and extra $2,200 at doubled petrol prices.

However, this is assuming electricity remains at the same tariffs. If oil doubles, I doubt tariffs will remain the same.

Not to mention the initial cost of the car which is also doubled from an Altis. The serviceability, reliability. Plus the lifestyle changes you need to make if you are not staying in a landed.

For now, the masses should consider a hybrid. Not an EV

Don't get the point of a hybrid now as well. The car price itself is 30-40k up from a non hybrid model. 30-40k can pump alot of petrol.

 

[bossjiaksai]

Don't get the point of a hybrid now as well. The car price itself is 30-40k up from a non hybrid model. 30-40k can pump alot of petrol.

Depends on models, some models can be as little as 10-15k difference between petrol and hybrid version.

But personally I won’t go for hybrid also, it takes around 40k km annually to break even, plus the cost needed to replace the hybrid battery and ancillary parts at around 7-8th year mark

 

[razorlala]

Factor in road tax as well.

Comparing apples to apples, the equivalent power output of a Tesla Model 3 (ie, 165kw or about 220bhp) is a GTi, Skoda Octavia RS245, A250 AMG.

Take those cars road tax and stretch it out over 12mths, assuming once a week charge / once a week petrol top up for these cars expenses; do ur maths.

Off the top of my head iirc, The price diff not too far off

Tesla pay less road tax? I google, tesla mileage for full charge is 375m.
Typical 40l petrol is 400m.

Battery can only hold less n less charge over the years. Maybe aft 5yrs only 250m mileage.

 

[TVaddict]

Tesla pay less road tax? I google, tesla mileage for full charge is 375m.
Typical 40l petrol is 400m.

Battery can only hold less n less charge over the years. Maybe aft 5yrs only 250m mileage.

Bro nobody would buy a car that can only travel 400 m on a full charge. In fact the manufacturer should close down.